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How Often does P.Willis Blitz?

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I was wondering if anyone knows how often P.Willis blitzed? last year? and his rookie year?

Due to our lack of a pass rusher I think that P.Willis if used in a more aggressive passrushing role could get 8+ sacks a year........

what you guys think?
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Patrick Willis doesnt blitz. The fear of seeing Willis on the opposing side makes O lineman open holes for him.
This is just from my memory, but I don't think Willis blitzed very much in 2007 or through the Nolan weeks of 2008. When Singletary took over, I noticed Willis blitz a lil more (sometimes delayed blitzes), but still not terribly often. (probably just a handful of times per game for 08)

This was one reason I would have been intrigued by seeing Willis in a 4-3 as an WLB. I figured that we didn't have the beef up front (mostly NT) anyway. We might be kinda unimpressed with our rush RDEs, and we do have a 3-4 DC.

(sorry to take a detour... just got interested in the possibilities)

LDE - Justin Smith ------------- Evans
LDT - Kentwan Balmer ---------- Franklin or Mitchell
RDT - Isaac Sopoaga ----------- RJ Francois
RDE - ??? Parys Haralson/Ray McD/Brooks ???

SLB - Manny Lawson -------- J. Moore
MLB - Takeo Spikes --------- S. McKillop ---- Ulbrich
WLB - Patrick Willis ---------- M. Harris? Haralson? Briggs?
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Originally posted by oldman9er:
This is just from my memory, but I don't think Willis blitzed very much in 2007 or through the Nolan weeks of 2008. When Singletary took over, I noticed Willis blitz a lil more (sometimes delayed blitzes), but still not terribly often. (probably just a handful of times per game for 08)

This was one reason I would have been intrigued by seeing Willis in a 4-3 as an WLB. I figured that we didn't have the beef up front (mostly NT) anyway. We might be kinda unimpressed with our rush RDEs, and we do have a 3-4 DC.

(sorry to take a detour... just got interested in the possibilities)

LDE - Justin Smith ------------- Evans
LDT - Kentwan Balmer ---------- Franklin or Mitchell
RDT - Isaac Sopoaga ----------- RJ Francois
RDE - ??? Parys Haralson/Ray McD/Brooks ???

SLB - Manny Lawson -------- J. Moore
MLB - Takeo Spikes --------- S. McKillop ---- Ulbrich
WLB - Patrick Willis ---------- M. Harris? Haralson? Briggs?

If we were a 4-3 I think it would look more like

LDE J.Smith -- J.Moore
LDT Balmer -- Francois
RDT Sopoaga -- Franklin
RDE Haralson -- Evans

SLB Lawson -- Brooks
MLB Willis -- Ulbrich --McKillop
WLB Spikes -- Harris -- Briggs

Spikes is a much better fit out on the weakside then in the middle. Jay Moore would play with his hand on the ground and Brooks would be a SAM but could put his hand on the ground possibly and rush the passer in the nickel.
Hmmm... maybe.

- Jay Moore could bulk back up to 270 to play LDE, but he dropped to 259 and has (hopefully) been studying hard for LB. Guess I'd be okay either way there, but if anything, would switch the backup DEs. I think Moore would be better than Evans at rushing the QB from the right side.

- I now agree on your backup DT change ... good call.

- I don't think that Takeo would have the speed still to be as good on the outside. Maybe he would surprise... not calling him slow... just not as quick as we might need for a WLB there.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Hmmm... maybe.

- Jay Moore could bulk back up to 270 to play LDE, but he dropped to 259 and has (hopefully) been studying hard for LB. Guess I'd be okay either way there, but if anything, would switch the backup DEs. I think Moore would be better than Evans at rushing the QB from the right side.

- I now agree on your backup DT change ... good call.

- I don't think that Takeo would have the speed still to be as good on the outside. Maybe he would surprise... not calling him slow... just not as quick as we might need for a WLB there.

I agree in a 4-3 i think Spikes would struggle at the WLB. But no way would they take Willis out of the MLB spot. And Evans isn't good at pass rushing, but we haven't seen Moore do anyting at all
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Hmmm... maybe.

- Jay Moore could bulk back up to 270 to play LDE, but he dropped to 259 and has (hopefully) been studying hard for LB. Guess I'd be okay either way there, but if anything, would switch the backup DEs. I think Moore would be better than Evans at rushing the QB from the right side.

- I now agree on your backup DT change ... good call.

- I don't think that Takeo would have the speed still to be as good on the outside. Maybe he would surprise... not calling him slow... just not as quick as we might need for a WLB there.

I agree in a 4-3 i think Spikes would struggle at the WLB. But no way would they take Willis out of the MLB spot. And Evans isn't good at pass rushing, but we haven't seen Moore do anyting at all

I think Evans would play more on running downs in the RDE spot thus why I think he would fit there and could compete to play inside with RayMac, Balmer and Soap next to Smith in the nickel package. Lawson could also compete for time at end in the nickel.
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Briggs?
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Hmmm... maybe.

- Jay Moore could bulk back up to 270 to play LDE, but he dropped to 259 and has (hopefully) been studying hard for LB. Guess I'd be okay either way there, but if anything, would switch the backup DEs. I think Moore would be better than Evans at rushing the QB from the right side.

- I now agree on your backup DT change ... good call.

- I don't think that Takeo would have the speed still to be as good on the outside. Maybe he would surprise... not calling him slow... just not as quick as we might need for a WLB there.

I agree in a 4-3 i think Spikes would struggle at the WLB. But no way would they take Willis out of the MLB spot. And Evans isn't good at pass rushing, but we haven't seen Moore do anyting at all

You are probably right, but it would be exciting to see him at this spot an often rushing the QB there. (just playing fantasy la-la land)

... and oops, I meant Diyral Biggs... the long-shot UDFA we picked up.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Hmmm... maybe.

- Jay Moore could bulk back up to 270 to play LDE, but he dropped to 259 and has (hopefully) been studying hard for LB. Guess I'd be okay either way there, but if anything, would switch the backup DEs. I think Moore would be better than Evans at rushing the QB from the right side.

- I now agree on your backup DT change ... good call.

- I don't think that Takeo would have the speed still to be as good on the outside. Maybe he would surprise... not calling him slow... just not as quick as we might need for a WLB there.

I agree in a 4-3 i think Spikes would struggle at the WLB. But no way would they take Willis out of the MLB spot. And Evans isn't good at pass rushing, but we haven't seen Moore do anyting at all

You are probably right, but it would be exciting to see him at this spot an often rushing the QB there. (just playing fantasy la-la land)

... and oops, I meant Diyral Biggs... the long-shot UDFA we picked up.

True as good as it sounds to have Willis blitzing him bien gin the middle and anchoring and leading others woudl be his best spot. Ray Lewis doesn't have a lot of sacks but he's gonna be remembered as the best LB in the last decade period.

Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Hmmm... maybe.

- Jay Moore could bulk back up to 270 to play LDE, but he dropped to 259 and has (hopefully) been studying hard for LB. Guess I'd be okay either way there, but if anything, would switch the backup DEs. I think Moore would be better than Evans at rushing the QB from the right side.

- I now agree on your backup DT change ... good call.

- I don't think that Takeo would have the speed still to be as good on the outside. Maybe he would surprise... not calling him slow... just not as quick as we might need for a WLB there.

I agree in a 4-3 i think Spikes would struggle at the WLB. But no way would they take Willis out of the MLB spot. And Evans isn't good at pass rushing, but we haven't seen Moore do anyting at all

I think Evans would play more on running downs in the RDE spot thus why I think he would fit there and could compete to play inside with RayMac, Balmer and Soap next to Smith in the nickel package. Lawson could also compete for time at end in the nickel.

Yea they would have a lot of different looks in a 4-3. it would be interestign to wee who would and wouldn't excel in teh 4-3.
I guess it is not that big of a difference... 4-3 and 1-gap 3-4.
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Originally posted by oldman9er:
I guess it is not that big of a difference... 4-3 and 1-gap 3-4.

Not not really but I think we could have and should have moved to a 4-3 Defense this offseason. We would have also had an easier time finding players who could fit that defense in both the draft and FA, and I believe we could have had a stronger defensive unit.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
I guess it is not that big of a difference... 4-3 and 1-gap 3-4.

Not not really but I think we could have and should have moved to a 4-3 Defense this offseason. We would have also had an easier time finding players who could fit that defense in both the draft and FA, and I believe we could have had a stronger defensive unit.


I think we would be in the minority on that, but yes. I'm a fan of the 3-4, but I would never want to run one without an impact NT. I know we would then have uncertainties of our rush DL, but I think we have some decent possibilities in-house. As you said, we could always have leaned on this draft for another DE rusher.

It is what it is though. Not gonna gripe about it now.
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Willis' lateral speed allows him to impact the field sodeline to sideline. If our Defense can create containment and seal the edges a little better, I think Singletary will use Willis' speed on opportunitistic inside blitzes. Goldson tipped a redzone pass in OTAs on a safetly blitz. I will be blitzing Willis with Goldson up the middle on Madden 2010, where by the way, Willis is the best ILB.