Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Ratto is just being realistic, what the hell have the Niners done in the last seven years other than suck ass!!
Let the ass sucking end and the ass kicking begian!!!!!
So get of the Rats back and take of the rose tinted glasses, we have not been picking in the top third of the drat every year because we are so freaking great!
There isn't a single player on this offense that could have started for Walsh in the eighties and Willis and Smith are the only defenders worthy of that era!
Don't you think that you are overstating this somewhat?
Gore couldn't start for Walsh? Gore is great but I don't think he is a Walsh Guy, not a Ricky Watters, Rodger Craig receiver in the backfield, but still a great back Bill might not drat a Gore but you are right he could find work for him!
I think that Walsh would have given his eyeteeth to have a talented player like Davis to mold into a solid TE. Here I gotta disagree, Bill would not put up with the drops PERIOD
You don't think that he could do something with Hill and Morgan? Hill and Morgan aren't yet locks to start, so I wasn't rally thinking about them, Crabtree is more in the Walsh "big body graet hands" mold Pure Speed was not a big thing to Bill just look a D. Clark!
I know what he would have done with a "so so player" like Battle. It would have opened up another scoring avenue for him that's for sure. That WR screen that Bill loved so much could have gone vertical, oh but wait it did when he had Rice, huh?
Battle acutally has the best chance at being a 'Walsh" guy becuase of his handsm sure I'll give you that.
Not saying that Battle is anywhere near GOATs' league. But if I can count 5 guys that Walsh would have loved to coach(knowing what I do about the man) you can best be sure to double that. Hey Bill worked with what he had when he got here, but do you think he would have drafted ANY player on this offense? I think you are right that Walsh could have worked with and would have played these guys, I just don't see him drafting a Smith or VD
I find it hysterical that people hate our team so much at this time that they overstate things more than they deserve to be. At least I know that you were never paid to be coach Walsh's mouthpiece. Why the personal attack?, kinda cheap no pointer there, sorry lacks a little class
Maybe I was kinda hasty, but I still feel that Bill Walsh would not have picked any of these guys, other than Crabtree. Think about those teams, everybody had great hands, the phrase "so many weapons" was created to describe the Niners! There is a lot of talent on this team and I expect good things, I just expect different good things! Moran Norris will never make me forget Rathman! VD will never out shine Brent Jones, sorry he won't he will do well we will flat back a few linebackers, and yes he will make some catches, but he doesn't have the hands to play Bill Walsh football.
As for deffending the Rat all I can say is he is a fan, and like some of us fans we want to win we expect hreat moves and great choices and great coaching at all times, realistic not really but thats okay we are fans!
Just because we expect more doesn't make us "haters", just like apologizing and always looking on the bright side doesn't make you a "lightweight" fan, it just makes you a 49er fan and my brother!
I tend to agree with you more than disagree. But I still think that Walsh would have been licking his chops over some of the guys that we have. See what people tend to forget was that Walsh was a Teacher first and foremost. He would be as patient as he needed to be, but if he thought you weren't giving it your all you'd walk up to your locker the next day and be confronted with a cardboard box filled with your stuff at the foot of your locker. Sometimes he would just drop it in front of you and you wouldn't even have access to the lockerroom.
You can say what you want about Davis, Gore and a few other players but I think that Walsh could have worked with them and would have without hesitation.
Now our OLine? You can't pass block? You better learn in a hurry or your days were numbered. run block? You were gone.
But I digress, coach Walsh was before the Salary Cap era and in those days you could cut a guy without much fanfare in the media. We were(us older fans) not incensed over the loss of dead weight. If the guy couldn't cut it Walsh would get rid of them and the team would be better for it because the next guy in line knew that he was walking a tightrope. You can't do that now, unless the guy does something that Goodell deems inappropriate no matter how reasonable that may be. Making Depth Chart management that much more important. Which is one of the reasons Nolan no longer coaches this team. can you imagine if Nolan had the ability to manage the roster like Walsh or even as far back as his own father? I think fans would have been much more tolerant.
In any case, at least you saw what I was gettin at unlike some folks here with their infantile name calling.
~Cduuur... er I mean Ceadder