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Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by Xestenz:
It isn't about lasers and light shows - that isn't the point of dissention at all.

Like them or hate them these other new stadiums possess an important attribute -- they are DISTINCTIVE -- even without the lazers and light shows.

When you think of the Cardinal's stadium, you think 'spaceship'. When you think of the Cowgirl's stadium, you think 'hole in the top', etc. There is something distinctive about them that fans can identify with and become attached to.

This new 49ers stadium design might be 'simple' and 'easy to build' and you might even like how it looks full of happy people and color, but there is nothing memorable or distinctive about it at all. Just a bowl and hotel-like tower of luxury suites.

It is actually quite representative of the franchise of late - nothing great, nothing really memorable, nothing that trumps the competition, no identity. Why should we have expected more?

Me - I'm not satisfied. I remember when the 49ers wouldn't settle for anything but excellence, had the best most innovative coaches and players who wouldn't accept 'just okay'. They deserve a home that is equal to this history, that supports the ideals and similarly defines something great.

It doesn't have to have lazer light shows or cost $15 billion. It just takes some innovation, vision, and desire for excellence.

If you do a little research, you'll discover that excellence and innovation are exactly what this stadium is about. What you're not understanding is that this stadium design is all about the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE on gameday. It's not about having an identifiable spaceship landmark that looks great from a distance.

•65% of seats in the lower bowl with excellent site lines. More fans closer to the field.

•2 massive widescreen jumbotrons at opposite ends of the stadium viewable to every fan in the stadium.

•Superwide "open air concourses." You can still see the game (and the outside world) while getting your beer and hotdogs. Similar to many baseball parks.

•Overall open design will make the whole stadium feel less crowded/claustrophobic while taking advantage of and celebrating perfect Santa Clara weather.

•Of course there are all the other ammenties that can't be communicated in 2D or 3D rendering. Wider seats, state of the art audio visual systems, green technology, low glare lighting system, etc.

You're totally misinformed if you think the team is trying to do this on the cheap. This stadium will be state of the art and something the entire region can be proud of. Most important, the fan experience will improve ten fold on game days.

Great architecture is about balance of form and function. A flying saucer in the desert is NOT great architecture.

Site lines and openess are not extraordinary in anyway. These should just be a given. You can have a very bland, boring stadium that has those attributes, which, actually, is exactly what we have here.

I never said they were doing this on the cheap (although many here have claimed this stadium is more 'buildable'.) I just want something better.
Originally posted by Xestenz:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by Xestenz:
It isn't about lasers and light shows - that isn't the point of dissention at all.

Like them or hate them these other new stadiums possess an important attribute -- they are DISTINCTIVE -- even without the lazers and light shows.

When you think of the Cardinal's stadium, you think 'spaceship'. When you think of the Cowgirl's stadium, you think 'hole in the top', etc. There is something distinctive about them that fans can identify with and become attached to.

This new 49ers stadium design might be 'simple' and 'easy to build' and you might even like how it looks full of happy people and color, but there is nothing memorable or distinctive about it at all. Just a bowl and hotel-like tower of luxury suites.

It is actually quite representative of the franchise of late - nothing great, nothing really memorable, nothing that trumps the competition, no identity. Why should we have expected more?

Me - I'm not satisfied. I remember when the 49ers wouldn't settle for anything but excellence, had the best most innovative coaches and players who wouldn't accept 'just okay'. They deserve a home that is equal to this history, that supports the ideals and similarly defines something great.

It doesn't have to have lazer light shows or cost $15 billion. It just takes some innovation, vision, and desire for excellence.

If you do a little research, you'll discover that excellence and innovation are exactly what this stadium is about. What you're not understanding is that this stadium design is all about the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE on gameday. It's not about having an identifiable spaceship landmark that looks great from a distance.

•65% of seats in the lower bowl with excellent site lines. More fans closer to the field.

•2 massive widescreen jumbotrons at opposite ends of the stadium viewable to every fan in the stadium.

•Superwide "open air concourses." You can still see the game (and the outside world) while getting your beer and hotdogs. Similar to many baseball parks.

•Overall open design will make the whole stadium feel less crowded/claustrophobic while taking advantage of and celebrating perfect Santa Clara weather.

•Of course there are all the other ammenties that can't be communicated in 2D or 3D rendering. Wider seats, state of the art audio visual systems, green technology, low glare lighting system, etc.

You're totally misinformed if you think the team is trying to do this on the cheap. This stadium will be state of the art and something the entire region can be proud of. Most important, the fan experience will improve ten fold on game days.

Great architecture is about balance of form and function. A flying saucer in the desert is NOT great architecture.

Site lines and openess are not extraordinary in anyway. These should just be a given. You can have a very bland, boring stadium that has those attributes, which, actually, is exactly what we have here.

I never said they were doing this on the cheap (although many here have claimed this stadium is more 'buildable'.) I just want something better.

The things that actually matter (gameday experience) don't seem to be very important to you. I can only conclude that you want something like this hideous example of form for the sake of form:


ewww.

Can you please post an example of what you consider "better?"

[ Edited by 09etihW on Jun 3, 2009 at 12:13:40 ]
you can't please everyone
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by Xestenz:
It isn't about lasers and light shows - that isn't the point of dissention at all.

Like them or hate them these other new stadiums possess an important attribute -- they are DISTINCTIVE -- even without the lazers and light shows.

When you think of the Cardinal's stadium, you think 'spaceship'. When you think of the Cowgirl's stadium, you think 'hole in the top', etc. There is something distinctive about them that fans can identify with and become attached to.

This new 49ers stadium design might be 'simple' and 'easy to build' and you might even like how it looks full of happy people and color, but there is nothing memorable or distinctive about it at all. Just a bowl and hotel-like tower of luxury suites.

It is actually quite representative of the franchise of late - nothing great, nothing really memorable, nothing that trumps the competition, no identity. Why should we have expected more?

Me - I'm not satisfied. I remember when the 49ers wouldn't settle for anything but excellence, had the best most innovative coaches and players who wouldn't accept 'just okay'. They deserve a home that is equal to this history, that supports the ideals and similarly defines something great.

It doesn't have to have lazer light shows or cost $15 billion. It just takes some innovation, vision, and desire for excellence.

If you do a little research, you'll discover that excellence and innovation are exactly what this stadium is about. What you're not understanding is that this stadium design is all about the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE on gameday. It's not about having an identifiable spaceship landmark that looks great from a distance.

•65% of seats in the lower bowl with excellent site lines. More fans closer to the field.

•2 massive widescreen jumbotrons at opposite ends of the stadium viewable to every fan in the stadium.

•Superwide "open air concourses." You can still see the game (and the outside world) while getting your beer and hotdogs. Similar to many baseball parks.

•Overall open design will make the whole stadium feel less crowded/claustrophobic while taking advantage of and celebrating perfect Santa Clara weather.

•Of course there are all the other ammenties that can't be communicated in 2D or 3D rendering. Wider seats, state of the art audio visual systems, green technology, low glare lighting system, etc.

You're totally misinformed if you think the team is trying to do this on the cheap. This stadium will be state of the art and something the entire region can be proud of. Most important, the fan experience will improve ten fold on game days.

Great architecture is about balance of form and function. A flying saucer in the desert is NOT great architecture.

I have to agree with you, I just don't care for the Upper Deck, but I never sit in the upper reserve anymore, I do like the open feel and less crowded feel. The site lines from the lower box and lower reserve seats look good. Super wide open air concourses are a huge plus. I would like to see more of the walk around feel of the stadium.
Originally posted by 49123:


Some of you noobies really have a hard time comprehending the overall picture.

Tell me what's "DISTINCTIVE" about the Steelers stadium, other than the big Katsup bottle in the south endzone??

Tell me what's so "DISTINCTIVE" about the Pats stadium that's so world changing??

What about the Colts, Eagles or Texans new Stadiums that's so amazing???


I can tell you what's so "DISTINCTIVE" about the Steelers and Pats......they have won 5 of the last 9 Superbowls in their stadiums that are really no different than the one purposed in these drawings.


You're looking a *rough drawings* presented as the first steps of a LONG, LONG, LONG process, that will end with a totally different reality upon completion.

I don't remember seeing any crazy Pirate ships in the Bucs stadium proposal drawings, yet SOMEHOW they figured out a way to make their stadium "DISTINCTIVE ".....

These are just plain drawings, there's not anything extra added to these renditions, do you get this???

If you read my post, I actually said it has NOTHING to do with all of the extras - it has everything to do with core design. You seem to have missed this point.

You can dress up a pig in a dress, still a pig.

Gillette Stadium is actually quite distinctive, beyond just the success on the field. The symetry, the complexity of the design, the overall shape that brings the upper deck fans close to the field, etc.

Lucas Oil for the Colts has an amazing brick facade, flying steel buttresses, etc.

Heinz's Fields 'open jaws' look, placement next the river, etc.

ALL of the stadium designs you mention have distinctiveness.

You seem happy to settle for mediocrity - that's fine.













[ Edited by Xestenz on Jun 3, 2009 at 12:19:16 ]
Originally posted by 09etihW:
The things that actually matter (gameday experience) don't seem to be very important to you. I can only conclude that you want something like this hideous example of form for the sake of form:


ewww.

Can you please post an example of what you consider "better?"

You seem to believe you can't have both a great game day experience and something special about the stadium itself.

I believe you can.

And you contradict yourself - the gameday experience at the new AZ stadium is likely amazing, yet the asthetics of the design don't agree with you. By your logic you should love this stadium.
Originally posted by 09etihW:
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by Xestenz:
It isn't about lasers and light shows - that isn't the point of dissention at all.

Like them or hate them these other new stadiums possess an important attribute -- they are DISTINCTIVE -- even without the lazers and light shows.

When you think of the Cardinal's stadium, you think 'spaceship'. When you think of the Cowgirl's stadium, you think 'hole in the top', etc. There is something distinctive about them that fans can identify with and become attached to.

This new 49ers stadium design might be 'simple' and 'easy to build' and you might even like how it looks full of happy people and color, but there is nothing memorable or distinctive about it at all. Just a bowl and hotel-like tower of luxury suites.

It is actually quite representative of the franchise of late - nothing great, nothing really memorable, nothing that trumps the competition, no identity. Why should we have expected more?

Me - I'm not satisfied. I remember when the 49ers wouldn't settle for anything but excellence, had the best most innovative coaches and players who wouldn't accept 'just okay'. They deserve a home that is equal to this history, that supports the ideals and similarly defines something great.

It doesn't have to have lazer light shows or cost $15 billion. It just takes some innovation, vision, and desire for excellence.

I respect your point of view, but entirely disagree. This stadium is very distinctive in that it provides a wider/lower seating base, it provides an open-air feel that none of the stadiums have including the two side entrances where fans can instantly have the "game feel" upon them. The billboards will be displaying constant images of years past with technology coming out of the stadium's wazoo.

From the outside, you are welcomed by the look and feel of an old "open-air" stadium. Comparing it to the others out there, I really like this one.

Hey, to each their own.

Here's a link to other stadiums so we can compare...Here you go!

Here I'll make it easy:













and finally....

HEY, what was that last one? Now that is awesome!!!!

Out of all of these, the most "distinctive" is the KC one, IMO...just nothing like it where the other almost look the same. One thing is for sure...our new stadium looks nothing like any of these.

[ Edited by ninertico on Jun 3, 2009 at 12:21:18 ]
Originally posted by Xestenz:
Originally posted by 09etihW:
The things that actually matter (gameday experience) don't seem to be very important to you. I can only conclude that you want something like this hideous example of form for the sake of form:


ewww.

Can you please post an example of what you consider "better?"

You seem to believe you can't have both a great game day experience and something special about the stadium itself.

I believe you can.

And you contradict yourself - the gameday experience at the new AZ stadium is likely amazing, yet the asthetics of the design don't agree with you. By your logic you should love this stadium.

I hate the Cardinal stadium because:
1. It's ugly
2. It's exterior design is all about FORM FOR THE SAKE OF FORM.

Our proposed new stadium is:
1. Beautiful
2. It's exterior design is a result of it's intended function.
3. It will blow the Cardinal stadium out of the water in terms of gameday experience.

You sited Gillette stadium as something you liked. Why is it so much better?
Originally posted by 09etihW:


I hate the Cardinal stadium because:
1. It's ugly
2. It's exterior design is all about FORM FOR THE SAKE OF FORM.

Our proposed new stadium is:
1. Beautiful
2. It's exterior design is a result of it's intended function.
3. It will blow the Cardinal stadium out of the water in terms of gameday experience.

You sited Gillette stadium as something you liked. Why is it so much better?

I didn't cite Gillette Stadium as one that I liked - was refuting another poster who claimed it lacked distinctiveness. It is, in fact, on the blander end of the newer stadiums.

What excactly, in your opinion, is beautiful about the proposed 49ers design? (Other than it looks like it will actually be built?) It is just a bowl of seats with a Marriott Hotel on one side.

The Cards stadium might be ugly on the outside, but if your argument is that the gameday fan experience is most important then this stadium should be a favorite of yours.

[ Edited by Xestenz on Jun 3, 2009 at 12:33:16 ]
Aside from this one and the Chiefs' stadium, those other ones kinda suck imo. Makes me feel a lot better about our proposed stadium. It's growing on me. Symmetry is overrated anyway.

Originally posted by Xestenz:
Originally posted by 09etihW:


I hate the Cardinal stadium because:
1. It's ugly
2. It's exterior design is all about FORM FOR THE SAKE OF FORM.

Our proposed new stadium is:
1. Beautiful
2. It's exterior design is a result of it's intended function.
3. It will blow the Cardinal stadium out of the water in terms of gameday experience.

You sited Gillette stadium as something you liked. Why is it so much better?

I didn't cite Gillette Stadium as one that I liked - was refuting another poster who claimed it lacked distinctiveness. It is, in fact, on the blander end of the newer stadiums.

What excactly, in your opinion, is beautiful about the proposed 49ers design? (Other than it looks like it will actually be built?) It is just a bowl of seats with a Marriott Hotel on one side.

The Cards stadium might be ugly on the outside, but if your argument is that the gameday fan experience is most important then this stadium should be a favorite of yours.

Sitting in a giant tin can of recycled air is NOT my idea of a great gameday experience.



Modern. Pefectly suited for it's use and location. Open. Steel and Glass. Not ornamental. Innovative. Green.

Now, what is YOUR example of a beautiful stadium?

[ Edited by 09etihW on Jun 3, 2009 at 12:48:34 ]
i think all in all the 49ers stadium design looks stylish to certain extent. but style of a building shouldn't make you feel better about watching the game. i think when the contractors came up with the plan. they came up with the idea of trying to fit as many people in a lower bowl and to make views and angles of watching the game as perfect as possible. i think the way that it's shaped will definately produce alot of field noise. plus i think they put a lil hint of candelstick in their! i like the idea. at first i didn't like it cause it look bland but since i seen the proposal video, i'm pretty locked on it! all in all ask yourselves, are you a niner fan cause of the building they play in? are you a niner fan cause you wanna feel like you're at a 5 star hotel sitting in that chair? we are damn niner fans cause we love football hands down! for all i know is they could hold a football game at my old highschool and i'll be happy watching them from the bleachers!
How about going green and add some design factor into this? We can be the 1st NFL team to have solar panels to power up the lights. Here's Solar Stadium in Taiwan.

Someone email these ideas to Jed for chrissakes!

Originally posted by NinerGold39:
How about going green and add some design factor into this? We can be the 1st NFL team to have solar panels to power up the lights. Here's Solar Stadium in Taiwan.

Someone email these ideas to Jed for chrissakes!


The stadium already had solar panels and a green roof incorporated into the design. A first in both cases I believe.