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Frank Gore Thread

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Maybe he did, and Moss didn't cut underneath...who knows? All I know is we lost a game that should not have been close! We played less than one half of good football, and still had a chance to win, if we had not sucked dirty balls in the first 35 minutes of play we win in a route, we failed to execute, we lost simple, if you aren't ready to play 60 minutes of the very best football in the world you will never win a super bowl! f**k the refes, f**k this block, f**k that call, WE DID NOT EXECUTE we weren't beaten, we lost. No way Baltimore stays with us when we execute, if we played best of 7 we win 5! But it aint baseball, we got one shot and we f**ked it up

yup. Started going down hill with the LMJ fumble. He doesn't fumble, I think we score. 10-7, niners. Different ball game.
I'm still wondering why gore didn't get the ball with 2nd and goal..
Kaep had no chance. An offsides Ed reed coming in unblocked. It was doomed
Originally posted by Sugar_Rush:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
The offense scored a grand total of 6 points against the Ravens with Alex Smith running it. The offense scored 29 points against the Ravens with Colin Kaepernick running it. What you're implying is that Alex Smith could have brought the Niners back from 22 points down against the same team. What makes you think the guy who got six points could have done better than the guy who got 29 points?

No telling what would've happened so it's 50/50.

Originally posted by GNielsen:
Talk to Sugar Rush about that. If he wants to keep posting b***hy little innuendos about how everything would have turned out right if Alex Smith was in there, you should expect some of us to respond with reasonable arguments about why that's b.s. In absence of Sugar Rush's posts, I'd have nothing to say on the matter.

There was a point brought up about Kaep not being able to throw fades and it seamed proper to bring up his inexperience with reading defenses in goal line sitautions because I felt that was a more glaring problem than his ability to throw fades. Do we not have a QB on the roster that has experienced this and come through in those situations?
I don't like to be in the position of criticising Alex Smith, but I don't remember him having a lot of success throwing the fade route either. It's a low percentage play for all QB's. Everyone knows that. If Kaepernick's inexperience gave him a disadvantage against the blitz, we would have seen a general trend, but that's not what we saw in the playoffs. Kaepernick was 9 for 12 against the Falcons blitz and completed quite a few against the Ravens blitzes as well. And, it's not 50-50. We have two examples of Niner QB's playing the Ravens. One put up 6 points and the other put up 29. How does that work out to 50-50?

Most people who are not trying to make the argument that one QB should have been playing over the other agree that the problem on the last series was play calling. Even Harbaugh agrees that they didn't do a good job calling plays. It really shouldn't have come down to Kaepernick having to make three straight corner throws to Crabtree. They should have punched it in from the five with four plays to do it. You know that. In fact, they should have tried a Kaepernick RUN at least once because he's one of the most effective runners on the team. Hell, if Alex Smith was in there, they should have tried one of those run around the edge with him as well. The play calling was just horrible. It was a total brain fart.
This play was the the clue to the Niner coaches to see that the Ravens were going to call zero blitz when we were inside the 5. Why didn't this cause the coaches to change the formation on the last 3 plays since we knew how effective the zero blitz was at shutting down the pass in that situation?
gore was hitting blocks and rushing awesome all game. there are alot of people to blame for the performance. gore isaint one of them.
Maybe if we didn't line up at the line of scrimmage every damn play with 3 seconds to spare, the line and Gore could know their assignments. So sick of the timeouts and delay of games. Knew it would bite us hard, and it did. If we didn't waste that timeout on the final drive,

1. Kaepernick might have scored on that run
2. We would have had time for one last drive with about 30 seconds and 50 yards to go
Originally posted by Sugar_Rush:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
The offense scored a grand total of 6 points against the Ravens with Alex Smith running it. The offense scored 29 points against the Ravens with Colin Kaepernick running it. What you're implying is that Alex Smith could have brought the Niners back from 22 points down against the same team. What makes you think the guy who got six points could have done better than the guy who got 29 points?

No telling what would've happened so it's 50/50.

Originally posted by GNielsen:
Talk to Sugar Rush about that. If he wants to keep posting b***hy little innuendos about how everything would have turned out right if Alex Smith was in there, you should expect some of us to respond with reasonable arguments about why that's b.s. In absence of Sugar Rush's posts, I'd have nothing to say on the matter.

There was a point brought up about Kaep not being able to throw fades and it seamed proper to bring up his inexperience with reading defenses in goal line sitautions because I felt that was a more glaring problem than his ability to throw fades. Do we not have a QB on the roster that has experienced this and come through in those situations?

I might be wrong, but I believe Alex Smith completed one fade route for a TD his entire career--to Crabs on MNF this year--and really has ever only thrown a WR open on the Vernon Post/Catch III. Yes, the Vernon Post was most definitely clutch, but there is no way Smith gets the team remotely back in striking distance the 2nd half. Kaep got us five yards away, and had Roman run the ball and/or not telegraphed the pass by going spread, likely won the SB.
Originally posted by vrabbit:
Kap can't throw a fade to save his life. I love the dude and I'm excited about his as the future QB for the next 5-10 years but this play and the play at the end to Crabtree were the same thing I've seen all season - he can throw it 60 yards but can't throw that fade

The fade is one of the hardest passes to throw. So much precision with not too much, but not too little power. Kaep will perfect it this offseason
Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
The fade is one of the hardest passes to throw. So much precision with not too much, but not too little power. Kaep will perfect it this offseason

I agree its scary to think how good kaep can be once he perfects some of the finesse throws like back shoulder and fade.
Gore is not to blame for that play. Kaep was anticipating the blitz and rushed his pass. A little lower and crabtree could've made a play for it. It also would've been easier for the refs to call a hold.
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gore is not to blame for anything. my dead dog mrs bojangles could have called better plays than the roman Jh combo at the end. its f**king criminal what the coaches did to us. not to even give the backs, ck or the line a chance to win the game. it should eat everyone of you up inside
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Originally posted by merm49:
Originally posted by Sugar_Rush:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
The offense scored a grand total of 6 points against the Ravens with Alex Smith running it. The offense scored 29 points against the Ravens with Colin Kaepernick running it. What you're implying is that Alex Smith could have brought the Niners back from 22 points down against the same team. What makes you think the guy who got six points could have done better than the guy who got 29 points?

No telling what would've happened so it's 50/50.

Originally posted by GNielsen:
Talk to Sugar Rush about that. If he wants to keep posting b***hy little innuendos about how everything would have turned out right if Alex Smith was in there, you should expect some of us to respond with reasonable arguments about why that's b.s. In absence of Sugar Rush's posts, I'd have nothing to say on the matter.

There was a point brought up about Kaep not being able to throw fades and it seamed proper to bring up his inexperience with reading defenses in goal line sitautions because I felt that was a more glaring problem than his ability to throw fades. Do we not have a QB on the roster that has experienced this and come through in those situations?

I might be wrong, but I believe Alex Smith completed one fade route for a TD his entire career--to Crabs on MNF this year--and really has ever only thrown a WR open on the Vernon Post/Catch III. Yes, the Vernon Post was most definitely clutch, but there is no way Smith gets the team remotely back in striking distance the 2nd half. Kaep got us five yards away, and had Roman run the ball and/or not telegraphed the pass by going spread, likely won the SB.
alex smith and last thanksiving has not one god damn thing to do with the fiasco from sunday
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Originally posted by Snider8706:
I'm still wondering why gore didn't get the ball with 2nd and goal..

or third and goal or fourth and goal. you will never get a straight answer out of anyone for this. i guess the coaches were trying out the new philosophy. when you are trailing in the super bowl and are in a spot to win the game, you play not to win
I'm thinking if he just throws the slant there its a TD. Unless Moss ran the wrong route, this is on Kap. I don't believe Moss should have adjusted either, obviously the slant is there and if its hot thats the play. You can say he didn't have time because of the rush, but that simply isn't true...it was there, there really is no difference in the time it took for him to throw the crap pass he did verses throwing the slant. I think Gore went after the inside guy because he thought Kap would throw a slant in that lane. Reed on the outside simply wouldn't have time to get there because it was a quick slant AND he would be out of any passing lanes because he was far enough outside.

Kap doesn't even get hit on this play... opportunity missed.