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Frank Gore Thread

  • BobS
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Originally posted by TJA85:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Broseph6:
Dude is done. 31 years old u don't pay a 31 yr old RB 6 mil. And extend him? No way be smart. Don't think with your heart

yes, he showed he was done last year off with you . if the team has the money, if it will not hurt us then you do it for him, especially after he showed he was not done,. I swear some people are hoping and wishing he is done

^this

Gore ranked 9th in rushing this season which was HIGHER than his 2012 season. How does that show he's done?

And don't even start with his speed, Gore was never known as a speedy back anyways.
Selected viewing of stats, you must be talking total rushing yards. His ypc went from 4.7 (2012) to 4.1 (2013) if history with 30+ year old top level running backs is any example that number will fall to 3.8 or lower in 2014. Last I checked Frank is human and not a robot, NFL running backs do not out run father time. Even the 30+ crowd that did ok in their later years fell off quite a bit from their late 20's. Pull up Football Reference and look at the numbers on running backs Frank's age. You have to ask yourself if Frank Gore was a free agent how much would somebody pay him? The salary cap forces the business side of the game, you can't over pay players on sentiment.
Originally posted by BobS:
Selected viewing of stats, you must be talking total rushing yards. His ypc went from 4.7 (2012) to 4.1 (2013) if history with 30+ year old top level running backs is any example that number will fall to 3.8 or lower in 2014. Last I checked Frank is human and not a robot, NFL running backs do not out run father time. Even the 30+ crowd that did ok in their later years fell off quite a bit from their late 20's. Pull up Football Reference and look at the numbers on running backs Frank's age. You have to ask yourself if Frank Gore was a free agent how much would somebody pay him? The salary cap forces the business side of the game, you can't over pay players on sentiment.

I want to know what his YPC was once Crabtree came in through the playoffs. B/c THAT is our real offense. Prior to that Gore WAS our offense. We need to account for the fact that he was probably pretty worn down the last quarter of the season and through the playoffs and the play calling could not be more predictable BUT this stat could give us a better gauge of real production and expectations going forward.
If Baalke is going to be worth a damn as a GM, he needs to be able to crack the whip. Paying a 31 year old RB with a ton of miles on him, one who only managed 11 carries for 14 yards in the NFCC game, $6.4 million dollars is not a smart thing to do. You pay a player based on what he'll do for your this upcoming season, you don't overpay him based on what he did 5 years ago. How Lynch ran versus how Gore ran is one of the reasons Seattle won, people want to turn a blind eye to that for some reason. Any other RB runs for that amount and we'd be calling for his head. Gore will just be another year older and slower next season, do you really want to go into another NFCC game with a 31 year old RB playing his 19th game of the season? I hate disparaging Gore as he's been a great 49er but it would not be a wise use of money paying him that much. No other NFL team will pay him $6+ million a year, the 49ers should not either. There are better ways to use that money to strengthen this team for 2014. I respect what Frank has done for this team but I want to see the 49ers win a SB next season, paying Gore that much when he can play for less would be the smarter thing to do to help accomplish that goal.
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
If Baalke is going to be worth a damn as a GM, he needs to be able to crack the whip. Paying a 31 year old RB with a ton of miles on him, one who only managed 11 carries for 14 yards in the NFCC game, $6.4 million dollars is not a smart thing to do. You pay a player based on what he'll do for your this upcoming season, you don't overpay him based on what he did 5 years ago. How Lynch ran versus how Gore ran is one of the reasons Seattle won, people want to turn a blind eye to that for some reason. Any other RB runs for that amount and we'd be calling for his head. Gore will just be another year older and slower next season, do you really want to go into another NFCC game with a 31 year old RB playing his 19th game of the season? I hate disparaging Gore as he's been a great 49er but it would not be a wise use of money paying him that much. No other NFL team will pay him $6+ million a year, the 49ers should not either. There are better ways to use that money to strengthen this team for 2014. I respect what Frank has done for this team but I want to see the 49ers win a SB next season, paying Gore that much when he can play for less would be the smarter thing to do to help accomplish that goal.

I agree to certain point. Frank didn't do much int NFCCG, but I think that's more on the game plan the coaches thought up.

He is old and he really isn't an every down back anymore. They need to split the load with the other RB we have. They need a lightning to Gore's thunder.
Change up speed and keep the defense on it's toes. But that is never going to happen in JH offensive scheme.
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
If Baalke is going to be worth a damn as a GM, he needs to be able to crack the whip. Paying a 31 year old RB with a ton of miles on him, one who only managed 11 carries for 14 yards in the NFCC game, $6.4 million dollars is not a smart thing to do. You pay a player based on what he'll do for your this upcoming season, you don't overpay him based on what he did 5 years ago. How Lynch ran versus how Gore ran is one of the reasons Seattle won, people want to turn a blind eye to that for some reason. Any other RB runs for that amount and we'd be calling for his head. Gore will just be another year older and slower next season, do you really want to go into another NFCC game with a 31 year old RB playing his 19th game of the season? I hate disparaging Gore as he's been a great 49er but it would not be a wise use of money paying him that much. No other NFL team will pay him $6+ million a year, the 49ers should not either. There are better ways to use that money to strengthen this team for 2014. I respect what Frank has done for this team but I want to see the 49ers win a SB next season, paying Gore that much when he can play for less would be the smarter thing to do to help accomplish that goal.

My mind says, "You're right...100%."
My heart says, "Screw you!"

But you're right! The GM has to make these very very hard decisions whether we have a contigency plan in place or not.

Let's hope someone steps up this off season and just flat out earns the spot...or at least 1/2 the carries.
LOL'ing at all of the wannbe bean counters in here . . . if we cut Gore's pay due to a decreasingly productive ground game why don't we go after the o-linemen too?

No let's just f**k over Gore because he's in a vulnerable spot career and contract wise. That will go over great in the locker room.



I'm not naive and I know this is a business, but Gore's situation is just different enough that Baalke's comments make perfect sense to me.
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
LOL'ing at all of the wannbe bean counters in here . . . if we cut Gore's pay due to a decreasingly productive ground game why don't we go after the o-linemen too?

No let's just f**k over Gore because he's in a vulnerable spot career and contract wise. That will go over great in the locker room.



I'm not naive and I know this is a business, but Gore's situation is just different enough that Baalke's comments make perfect sense to me.

Then we restructure his contract and extend him 2 more years. Structure it so he takes a mild pay cut this year and retires a 49er.
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
LOL'ing at all of the wannbe bean counters in here . . . if we cut Gore's pay due to a decreasingly productive ground game why don't we go after the o-linemen too?

No let's just f**k over Gore because he's in a vulnerable spot career and contract wise. That will go over great in the locker room.



I'm not naive and I know this is a business, but Gore's situation is just different enough that Baalke's comments make perfect sense to me.

If we extended him for another year, you can significantly decrease the cap hit while still allowing him to earn the full contract via incentives. This will allow us to sign many other players. Nobody wants the guy cut. But in this scenario, IF a guy like Lattimore steps up, it won't hurt us down the road...consider it a "transition" plan...a win-win for everyone b/c if Frank holds off Lattimore, he'll have earned it and that means we ALL win.
Winning a ring without Gore won't be the same. We need him for the ride this year.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Winning a ring without Gore won't be the same. We need him for the ride this year.

this!
Originally posted by Rocket4989:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Winning a ring without Gore won't be the same. We need him for the ride this year.

this!

it would be like the colts when they won after cutting edgerrin james after many yrs of amazing production

(btw the colts actually gave edge a sb ring even tho he played for the tards)
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Winning a ring without Gore won't be the same. We need him for the ride this year.

Agreed 100% and to top it off, gore is like what 30 or so yards from cracking 10,000 career rushing yards. Sure if add playoffs he has it. But this is franks yr. Lets go out on top sb or bust
Goniners
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Winning a ring without Gore won't be the same. We need him for the ride this year.

Agreed 100% and to top it off, gore is like what 30 or so yards from cracking 10,000 career rushing yards. Sure if add playoffs he has it. But this is franks yr. Lets go out on top sb or bust
Goniners

What if Frank is bad luck, you know cursed and destined to never get a ring? If Latimore is legit, then I say give him all Franks snaps, Hunter as a change of pace, and Dixon in short yardage, LMJ, and Frank looking for work elsewhere. Look to the draft for that 3rd down back, speedster we thought LMJ would become.
Im not saying to cut Gore, thats silly. I would rather him play for 6 mil this year than cut him. I say we extend him and soften the blow this year and put together a contract that has him retire a Niner.
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Winning a ring without Gore won't be the same. We need him for the ride this year.

Agreed 100% and to top it off, gore is like what 30 or so yards from cracking 10,000 career rushing yards. Sure if add playoffs he has it. But this is franks yr. Lets go out on top sb or bust
Goniners

What if Frank is bad luck, you know cursed and destined to never get a ring? If Latimore is legit, then I say give him all Franks snaps, Hunter as a change of pace, and Dixon in short yardage, LMJ, and Frank looking for work elsewhere. Look to the draft for that 3rd down back, speedster we thought LMJ would become.

What if he is not bad luck? I have a hard time believing that gore jinxed aldon and justin on our superbowl run. They dont get hurt in season, niners crush ravens in superbowl 47!!! If lattimore can take the reins from gore then sadly so be it. But now if he cant perform to our legendary mr frank gore at 31, then lattimore should not just be given the starting job!! I agree, we are stacked at rb, tho if we can strengthen any position in any area, go for it! We have the pics. Tho we need to address our needs. We have arguably one of the deepest cores at rb in the league.
We all have same goal, that is to win! Tho if gore is able his ability alone in pass protection makes him one of the most valuable rbs in league! He can still pound them yards out as well. Trick is figuring out a way to get less stacked boxs. Assume frank on sideline would cure that, by hard to see as the answer! Tho i cant wait to see lattimore on the field. Id like to see packages with gore n lattimore on field at same time :)
Goniners

Sorry this like a novel lmao
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