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Frank Gore Thread

Originally posted by socal1632:
No, not better than Craig.Sorry. Not even close as both a power running and pass catching disruption out of the backfield. (Of course Craig had Montana) Gore does have a quarterback with horseblinders on back there most of the time by comparison. You hit his age and it's just the way it is. He looks like he belongs in a wheelchair now compaired to any other current best in the game.Can still take a several step burst through initial holes and seams here and there. Safety's don't need to play shallow with him out there. If we had Lynch back there on last play, Crab's is prob open by several more yards at least. Gore has been a beast for us. We need a backfield that Seattle and other good teams will have to pay much more attention to by safety's, etc. With HarRoman's apparent lack of game day offensive flexibility and adjusting foresight. God, I am starting to really miss having a Walsh or a Belechik type mind on the sidelines. Obvious now that Harb's is a good to maybe very good head choach who was able to ride a titlewave of momentum into the NFL by Andrew Luck. I hope we get over the hump here with him as head coach, but getting out coached/gameplanned by most of the good teams we have faced for 3 years now is getting old


Oh, yeah, sure he is a more creative and gifted runner than Roger (and of course many others).

I love Roger, he was a fabulous workaholic performer. But Frank has a gift. That's all. No other running back really quite does what he does. None of the greats like Sanders, Peterson, Dickerson, Brown, even the GOAT Payton, really did what Frank does with regard to vision and the quickness and speed responding to his vision.

This has all been hashed out in other threads, or earlier in this thread. Nothing has really changed since that discussion.

He is underutilized, and getting older. Everyone dumps on him because he gets gassed after a 40 yard run.

Well, sure, but he is making a 40 yard run, isn't he? He's smart enough to stay in bounds when he needs to, to switch hands with the ball when needed; to hold it with 2 hands at a critical juncture. People don't talk about that.

I am a very critical person, really. You can tell by what I say about Kap and the coaching staff and so on. But I honestly have nothing really bad to say about Frank. At all. When i watch him play, I look at the plusses and minuses, and I think the balance comes out way in our favor. No remarks at all about Frank. Not from me.
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The Sac Bee had an article on Frank Gore and they mentioned that he had a YPC in 2013 of 4.1 (I think Hunter was 4.7). The Bee argued that they should keep Frank Gore because he is so well loved in the locker room. However, I think that is a bad way to run a team. Walsh would get rid of players while they still had a little bit left in the tank (Montana, Lott). It is the way to field the best football team TODAY and compete for a championship. Will Gore's YPC improve in 2014? Most likely not - it will probably regress more. Will the offense stall without having a 4.1 YPC running back? Most likely not. Boldin at 6 mil per year had a much greater impact on the game than Gore will. We could ask Gore to come back for a vet minimum, however it is probably best to just part ways, and let Hunter, LMJ, and Lattimore duke it out to determine who gets the carries. The coaching staff hasn't worked out the other RB enough for us to know what they have, and it is time to rip the band-aid off now and find out. If they can't replace Gore, then we know what to draft in 2015.
Originally posted by fryet:
The Sac Bee had an article on Frank Gore and they mentioned that he had a YPC in 2013 of 4.1 (I think Hunter was 4.7). The Bee argued that they should keep Frank Gore because he is so well loved in the locker room. However, I think that is a bad way to run a team. Walsh would get rid of players while they still had a little bit left in the tank (Montana, Lott). It is the way to field the best football team TODAY and compete for a championship. Will Gore's YPC improve in 2014? Most likely not - it will probably regress more. Will the offense stall without having a 4.1 YPC running back? Most likely not. Boldin at 6 mil per year had a much greater impact on the game than Gore will. We could ask Gore to come back for a vet minimum, however it is probably best to just part ways, and let Hunter, LMJ, and Lattimore duke it out to determine who gets the carries. The coaching staff hasn't worked out the other RB enough for us to know what they have, and it is time to rip the band-aid off now and find out. If they can't replace Gore, then we know what to draft in 2015.

If Lattimore ends up being the answer though, couldn't he benefit from a mentor figure like Gore in his first year?
Originally posted by lucky_49:
Originally posted by fryet:
The Sac Bee had an article on Frank Gore and they mentioned that he had a YPC in 2013 of 4.1 (I think Hunter was 4.7). The Bee argued that they should keep Frank Gore because he is so well loved in the locker room. However, I think that is a bad way to run a team. Walsh would get rid of players while they still had a little bit left in the tank (Montana, Lott). It is the way to field the best football team TODAY and compete for a championship. Will Gore's YPC improve in 2014? Most likely not - it will probably regress more. Will the offense stall without having a 4.1 YPC running back? Most likely not. Boldin at 6 mil per year had a much greater impact on the game than Gore will. We could ask Gore to come back for a vet minimum, however it is probably best to just part ways, and let Hunter, LMJ, and Lattimore duke it out to determine who gets the carries. The coaching staff hasn't worked out the other RB enough for us to know what they have, and it is time to rip the band-aid off now and find out. If they can't replace Gore, then we know what to draft in 2015.

If Lattimore ends up being the answer though, couldn't he benefit from a mentor figure like Gore in his first year?

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Originally posted by lucky_49:
Originally posted by fryet:
The Sac Bee had an article on Frank Gore and they mentioned that he had a YPC in 2013 of 4.1 (I think Hunter was 4.7). The Bee argued that they should keep Frank Gore because he is so well loved in the locker room. However, I think that is a bad way to run a team. Walsh would get rid of players while they still had a little bit left in the tank (Montana, Lott). It is the way to field the best football team TODAY and compete for a championship. Will Gore's YPC improve in 2014? Most likely not - it will probably regress more. Will the offense stall without having a 4.1 YPC running back? Most likely not. Boldin at 6 mil per year had a much greater impact on the game than Gore will. We could ask Gore to come back for a vet minimum, however it is probably best to just part ways, and let Hunter, LMJ, and Lattimore duke it out to determine who gets the carries. The coaching staff hasn't worked out the other RB enough for us to know what they have, and it is time to rip the band-aid off now and find out. If they can't replace Gore, then we know what to draft in 2015.

If Lattimore ends up being the answer though, couldn't he benefit from a mentor figure like Gore in his first year?
He has already had him for a year. What the other RB need is reps. And currently Gore gets the lions share. I also think it is unwise to give up 6 million in cap space for a mentor.
Gore needs to restructure his contact. That said, he's our best pass blocking back.
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Originally posted by socalniner:
Gore needs to restructure his contact. That said, he's our best pass blocking back.
And why is he the best? It is because he gets the most reps. The other RB won't grow if they aren't on the field.
Originally posted by fryet:
And why is he the best? It is because he gets the most reps. The other RB won't grow if they aren't on the field.

Right.It's not as if he has any skill or anything.
Frank the tank is here for one last stand... this is all but a good problem to have... he can mentor all the while, giving some reps to LATT (fingers crossed he's everything we hoped for) and Hunter- sorry just don't know how LMJ will fit in besides returns.

Why is everyone so anxious to see this warrior go? No one leaves it all on the field like Frank; there are just too many intangibles besides break away speed he gives us. It can only get better -- i prefer to see him gradually give up reps to LATT because he's da^^n good and see him go off on a high note- hopefully carried off in Arizona in early Feb '15.
We really should have done a better job at working our other RBs into the fold. At least we'd know what we have. Jury is still out on Kendall and LMJ because we either don't use them enough or don't call plays that maximize their talents. We're pretty much banking on Lattimore if we let frank Walk. That bothers me.
"I'm a football player, Jim, I love the game," said Gore. "I'm at the stage of my career, where I want the trophy. I want the trophy." http://jimrome.com/2014/01/10/gore-im-at-the-stage-of-my-career-where-i-want-the-trophy/

He has to get it next year with us (even if it means playing a lot less than he's used to) and then retire. Don't want him to be like Barry Sanders, where people talk about how he was really good even though he never got a ring.
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Originally posted by fryet:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Gore needs to restructure his contact. That said, he's our best pass blocking back.
And why is he the best? It is because he gets the most reps. The other RB won't grow if they aren't on the field.

uhm, maybe they can not beat frank for playing time? yes lets just throw frank on the bench in order to let other guys "grow". this is not oprah . their time will come for more playing time when frank either retires or he can not do the job. i certainly hope it does not end in a sad sudden way for frank like it did with franco harris, tony dorsett and roger craig. all of a sudden they just do not have it anymore
It won't end that way. Frank is the type of player who will end it when he's not ready to go anymore.


I admire Frank Gore so much. All he has been through and had to overcome from his learning disability, taking care of his sick mother, overcoming two huge knee injuries, the passing of his mother, and being the heart and soul of this team during the dark years. He has amazing work ethic, character, and is just an all around great person/player on and off the field. The dude has so much class and is so humble and down to earth. Pretty much the opposite of Richard Sherman. The man deserves a ring! We must get him his ring and win Superbowl 49.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by fryet:
And why is he the best? It is because he gets the most reps. The other RB won't grow if they aren't on the field.

Right.It's not as if he has any skill or anything.

The general consensus among almost 100% of the people who analyze NFL football is that Frank Gore is the best blitz blocker in the league. This is still the case. He's the best blitz blocker partly because he gets low and has almost perfect technique (according to Rathman), but also because he has tremendous skill in recognizing where blitzes are coming from. This is why I don't think Gore is going anywhere this next season. I won't be surprised if he restructures his contract to help the team. What I think is that if Lattimore shows the staff that he has what it takes to block and be a work-horse, Gore will transition to a third down & passing down back who will be there to pick up blitzes with the occasional run out of a passing formation or draw play.