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Frank Gore Thread

  • fropwns
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Not only is frank our best running back, he's our best open field runner of any skill position player. He's one of if not the best blocking halfback in the NFL.

He can be doing much more for us than he is being asked. You don't let guys like that go. It's a fantasy to think that we will get a better performer in the draft or free agent.

What he brings to the table is not replaceable. And, it's our coaching culture and dorky playcalling that chokes other runners from getting touches on the ball -- not Frank's ego or anything like that.

You should be waterboarded for even suggesting an irrational, foot shooting move like cutting Frank for salary cap reasons. He will restructure anyway.

We try not to make derogatory comments about other posters for their opinions. You see that is what separates us from the Raider fans. He doesn't want it to happen, but is suggesting it is entirely possible.
I'm being facetious. Do I have to say that?
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
I'm being facetious. Do I have to say that?

go to the all time 49er team thread and see if you approve
That's because Frank Gore is a true 49er!
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Not only is frank our best running back, he's our best open field runner of any skill position player. He's one of if not the best blocking halfback in the NFL.

He can be doing much more for us than he is being asked. You don't let guys like that go. It's a fantasy to think that we will get a better performer in the draft or free agent.

What he brings to the table is not replaceable. And, it's our coaching culture and dorky playcalling that chokes other runners from getting touches on the ball -- not Frank's ego or anything like that.

You should be waterboarded for even suggesting an irrational, foot shooting move like cutting Frank for salary cap reasons. He will restructure anyway.

Frank is absolutely our best blocking back and one of the best in the league. But our best "open field runner?" Come on man! I love Frank, but even though he might be able to juke me on the first move, I could probably chase Frank down from behind!

What Frank does beautifully (and usually later in the game when the defense is worn down) is make that perfect cut to break through the 2nd/3rd level for the huge gain...what he doesn't do so well is actually take it to the house, which any of our other backs could. And, talk about an open field runner, did you ever see LaMichael James play at Oregon??? Btw, Hunter was one of the better blocking backs at his Senior Bowl, constantly stoning guys in their tracks. He's got excellent technique and is a strong little dude, he just needs more opportunities to show it at this level.

Bottom line, Frank has been a special back for a very long time (in terms of RB years), but he's not the only one with skills on this team or on this planet for that matter. Much of what he does is in fact replaceable, and some of it is not. The point is, he's either leaving next year or this year, and a greater football mind than yours or mine was an advocate of letting guys go at least a year before their time. There was a reason he believed that.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jan 30, 2014 at 9:38 AM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Not only is frank our best running back, he's our best open field runner of any skill position player. He's one of if not the best blocking halfback in the NFL.

He can be doing much more for us than he is being asked. You don't let guys like that go. It's a fantasy to think that we will get a better performer in the draft or free agent.

What he brings to the table is not replaceable. And, it's our coaching culture and dorky playcalling that chokes other runners from getting touches on the ball -- not Frank's ego or anything like that.

You should be waterboarded for even suggesting an irrational, foot shooting move like cutting Frank for salary cap reasons. He will restructure anyway.

Frank is absolutely our best blocking back and one of the best in the league. But our best "open field runner?" Come on man! I love Frank, but even though he might be able to juke me on the first move, I could probably chase Frank down from behind!

What Frank does beautifully (and usually later in the game when the defense is worn down) is make that perfect cut to break through the 2nd/3rd level for the huge gain...what he doesn't do so well is actually take it to the house, which any of our other backs could. And, talk about an open field runner, did you ever see LaMichael James play at Oregon??? Btw, Hunter was one of the better blocking backs at his Senior Bowl, constantly stoning guys in their tracks. He's got excellent technique and is a strong little dude, he just needs more opportunities to show it at this level.

Bottom line, Frank has been a special back for a very long time (in terms of RB years), but he's not the only one with skills on this team or on this planet for that matter. Much of what he does is in fact replaceable, and some of it is not. The point is, he's either leaving next year or this year, and a greater football mind than yours or mine was an advocate of letting guys go at least a year before their time. There was a reason he believed that.

There isn't anything you said that is without merit, however I doubt they let Frank go this offseason. Frank's contract isn't hindering the team from doing anything, especially considering he only has one year left and 2015 is the big offseason where our major names will be up for new contracts. I think the bigger factor is will they let him go into 2014 with only one year left. If they do, then it's his last hurrah, unless he is willing to play for a fraction of that amount in 2015. I may be in the minority, but I'd like to see Gore restructure and extended 1 or possibly 2 years. Any new money he receives outside of the restructure in 2015 and 2016 would be based on playing time, number of starts, etc. The 49ers would have a lot of leverage seeing as how he will be turning 31 in May. There isn't a team in the NFL that would sign Frank Gore after this season and pay him anymore than what we would. We can use 2014 as a year of transitioning. Decrease his number of offensive snaps to about 60-70% of the team's total. Those final two years, I see him as more of the back we use in the second half to pound away at defenses with, and hopefully run when we have a nice lead. In a perfect world, we win back to back Super Bowl's and Frank Gore retires with his 2nd title at Levi's Stadium .
If his contract is not hindering our future at all I would say to prob keep him.Currently we are badly out talented by Seattle in the backfield with Lynch back there. Can't repeatedly punch D lines in the mouth anymore to wear them down. Last several seasons Frank's legs have gone mostly dead last few games. Kaep was our running weapon in that second half against Seattle. The Dline just needed to contain him and then T off on Roman's pathic 1970's passing tree plays without multiple backs flooding the flats or diving through the line. By the way, on that last play, the back, not sure if Gore or hunter? broke free of linebacker coverage on the side Kaep was looking at. A little soft eight yard pass to clear linebacker and RB may also have made the endzone. Pass to Crabs was not completely the wrong throw but by far the lowest percentage play on the field that down(Crabs has great hands but why the F wasen't VD climbing the ladder in the corner fade on that play)???????.Also Kaep needs to shut his mouth about Sherman and learn how to really play the qb position. Dude seriously, U cost us the game in the 4th quarter with repeated mistakes from last year and even games this year.
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For many years, the demise of Frank Gore has been predicted, That demise has not yet occurred.

Frank Gore has been an excellent running back for the 49ers--arguably the best the team has had.

Nevertheless, his projected value to the team has to match his cap cost.

I do not pretend that I am capable of making this evaluation, but I do know that the team does seem to be excellent at making this type of evaluation.
No, not better than Craig.Sorry. Not even close as both a power running and pass catching disruption out of the backfield. (Of course Craig had Montana) Gore does have a quarterback with horseblinders on back there most of the time by comparison. You hit his age and it's just the way it is. He looks like he belongs in a wheelchair now compaired to any other current best in the game.Can still take a several step burst through initial holes and seams here and there. Safety's don't need to play shallow with him out there. If we had Lynch back there on last play, Crab's is prob open by several more yards at least. Gore has been a beast for us. We need a backfield that Seattle and other good teams will have to pay much more attention to by safety's, etc. With HarRoman's apparent lack of game day offensive flexibility and adjusting foresight. God, I am starting to really miss having a Walsh or a Belechik type mind on the sidelines. Obvious now that Harb's is a good to maybe very good head choach who was able to ride a titlewave of momentum into the NFL by Andrew Luck. I hope we get over the hump here with him as head coach, but getting out coached/gameplanned by most of the good teams we have faced for 3 years now is getting old
My prediction is that Gore will restructure his contract and be with the team for one or two more years. I'm hoping Lattimore becomes the primary back and Gore comes in for third down passing situations because nobody picks up the blitz like Gore and he's still able to find a hole and get yardage with a draw play here and there.
Originally posted by crake49:
My prediction is that Gore will restructure his contract and be with the team for one or two more years. I'm hoping Lattimore becomes the primary back and Gore comes in for third down passing situations because nobody picks up the blitz like Gore and he's still able to find a hole and get yardage with a draw play here and there.

i think this is years last dance to be honest. hes a stud but at that age it just isnt smart to extend him, especially with all of the guys were gonna have to extend the next two years. including kap and aldons eventual monster deals. i hope they can find a way to keep him but i dont think gore will be playing for the niners at 6+ mill
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Frank is absolutely our best blocking back and one of the best in the league. But our best "open field runner?" Come on man! I love Frank, but even though he might be able to juke me on the first move, I could probably chase Frank down from behind!

What Frank does beautifully (and usually later in the game when the defense is worn down) is make that perfect cut to break through the 2nd/3rd level for the huge gain...what he doesn't do so well is actually take it to the house, which any of our other backs could. And, talk about an open field runner, did you ever see LaMichael James play at Oregon??? Btw, Hunter was one of the better blocking backs at his Senior Bowl, constantly stoning guys in their tracks. He's got excellent technique and is a strong little dude, he just needs more opportunities to show it at this level.

Bottom line, Frank has been a special back for a very long time (in terms of RB years), but he's not the only one with skills on this team or on this planet for that matter. Much of what he does is in fact replaceable, and some of it is not. The point is, he's either leaving next year or this year, and a greater football mind than yours or mine was an advocate of letting guys go at least a year before their time. There was a reason he believed that.


By open field runner I mean being able to make people miss in the open field, not outrunning everyone.

Who does it better on our roster? I don't see LMJ being decisive enough to leverage his quickness. Hunter is a good burst/power runner. But I don't see the moves. Not yet, not this season. Crabs? Not really. Vern? Too linear. Boldin? Not his game. Vance? No reps, can't tell. Patton? No reps, can't tell.

I didn't say Frank was the only one with skills. I said he was our best open field runner (vision + moves-wise). At 30.

Who is better at this on our roster than Frank? No one. That's what I'm saying. ANd yes, he find holes too. That's a whole nother thing.

I think we can extend his shelf life by building a short passing game around him.
i just cant wait till he breaks 10k career yards. He has 16 left, right? He'll probably get it on our first game next season unless we're playing in seattle. lol.
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Frank's got a big bubble butt.
The better to hall of fame with.