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Frank Gore Thread

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
LOL @ these people saying we need to phase Gore out and he has nothing left in the tank. People have been saying that for like 3-4 years now. The dude just ran for over 1100 yards, and that was going once again against a lot of 7-8 men in the box. Gore's game has never revolved around speed after those knee injuries in college. It has always revolved around his great vision and terrific acceleration. He also has always played very low and underneath his pads and thus hasn't taken too many big hits and the type of pounding say an Adrian Peterson takes. Dude is so comparable to Emmitt Smith in their running styles and Emmitt played until he was 35. Gore will be 31 next year. He very well still could have another couple 1000-1200 yard seasons in him. Emmitt did at his age.

Imagine what Gore would do if we had a more advanced passing attack. I'd love to see Gore running against a defense that was forced to defend the run and pass equally. People talk about how well Eddie Lacy did against us in the Green Bay game, but he was running against a nickel defense and still didn't manage to gain 4 yards a carry. Frank Gore running against a nickel defense would get nearly 5 yards a carry, even at age 31.


Exactly. Gores been going up against 8 man fronts his whole career.
I Voted for Gore.
i'm open to sharing the load a bit more next season. at 30 he got more playing time than he had in many seasons in terms of total snaps played. hes earned the right to play in the new stadium and the ability to go over 10, 000 career yards in it.
Our backs have run the ball approx 25x per game under Roman. If we assume 5-7 carries to Hunter and LMJ as a change of pace, that leaves around 18-20 carries to split between Gore and Lattimore (with Boobie not re-signed).
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jan 29, 2014 at 3:44 PM ]
Of course, I was the same person who thought we would and should release Whitner before last season, so WTF do I know?
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

I hate this scenario, but you raise excellent points.
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

And that is why he is Ghost, he brings it every time, even when he doesn't want to deliver the message.

Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

And that is why he is Ghost, he brings it every time, even when he doesn't want to deliver the message.



Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

And that is why he is Ghost, he brings it every time, even when he doesn't want to deliver the message.




I realize what you're saying comports with the way most coaches and GMs look at things, and maybe I've got too much of the 1970s rattling around in my head, but I think good RBs are rare. Any time I see a productive RB Committee, I think to myself, "But that team would be MORE productive if it ditched the committee and gave the ball to the best guy." Old or not, Gore is better than any other RB we're likely to see on the Niners next year. I say keep him around and feed him the ball until he cries UNCLE!
^^ The dilemma of course is that the only way to find out if Gore TRULY is or is NOT the best RB on the team next year is to allow others to get extensive touches. You never know what these other guys are capable of until you give them more opportunities, and that won't happen while Frank is on the roster. It's a difficult decision and I don't envy Baalke when it comes to making this call.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

I hate this scenario, but you raise excellent points.

i could see it happening before the '15 season. but not this off-season.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

Why wouldn't they ask him to restructure. Gore is a team guy and I firmly believe he would do what it takes and maybe take a financial hit to stay with SF. He's made a lot of money over his career.
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
As someone who watched great 49ers move on usually before their time was through (e.g., Joe, Jerry, Ronnie, Roger, Woody, etc.), I strongly believe we'll be releasing Gore, freeing up $6.4M worth of needed cap room and going with Hunter, James, Lattimore and a rookie RB. I suspect the front office feels the same way. Yes, fans will go nuts wondering/fretting how we'll replace Gore's production and leadership, but this won't be the first time in professional football an aging veteran gets replaced, and it won't be the last. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore's contract was set up for just this moment (huge roster bonus and $3M+ salary for a 31 year-old RB is code for "Goodbye").

This team (as most teams almost always do at the RB position) will find a way to cover what Gore brings to the table, whether it's with the RBs on the existing roster, one that's drafted or signed via free agency. One will either emerge as the main starter or it will be a RB by committee like most teams these days...bottom line, this team will be fine. And to paraphrase Coach Walsh, it's better to let a veteran go a year too soon than a year too late.

Let me be clear, I wouldn't be happy about it nor do I even want it to happen. I just think it will given all the variables here.

Why wouldn't they ask him to restructure. Gore is a team guy and I firmly believe he would do what it takes and maybe take a financial hit to stay with SF. He's made a lot of money over his career.

Definitely makes sense to do that IF the front office wants to keep Gore for another year and if he's willing to play for around $2.5M per year. The question is, does the front office feel they need as much 2014 cap space as possible and that the current crop of RBs + a draft choice can make up the difference for losing Gore? If the answer to both is yes, they'll release him and use that $6.45M cap space to address other areas of need.
Not only is frank our best running back, he's our best open field runner of any skill position player. He's one of if not the best blocking halfback in the NFL.

He can be doing much more for us than he is being asked. You don't let guys like that go. It's a fantasy to think that we will get a better performer in the draft or free agent.

What he brings to the table is not replaceable. And, it's our coaching culture and dorky playcalling that chokes other runners from getting touches on the ball -- not Frank's ego or anything like that.

You should be waterboarded for even suggesting an irrational, foot shooting move like cutting Frank for salary cap reasons. He will restructure anyway.