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Frank Gore Thread

Originally posted by NinerGod:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Team should try & trade for Adrian Peterson, and I'm not kidding. AP has 3 to 4 years max on his career too. Why not? Give the Vikings our 1st this year and a 2nd. We'd still have 4 picks from 62 thru 95.

lol. no.

1. we can't afford him
2. they won't trade him
3. we can't afford him
4. RB is the least of our worries
5. we can't afford him

You forgot to mention that they won't trade him.

And that we can't afford him.

I disagree. I think it is because we cannot afford him and they would not trade him in any event.
Gore will stay at least another year, at least until we know until we know what we have in Lattimore (maybe we already know?). Hunter and James aren't everydown backs, so it will be telling if we draft another RB high which I doubt we do.
Originally posted by Disp:
I think Gore is pretty much done. Yes, he had a couple huge clutch runs the last 6 or so games, but you take those out and he's averaging 2-3 yards per carry. I love the guy and what he's meant for the team, but I think he's holding the offense back at this point.

The same could be said for Marshawn Lynch. That's how it goes for many running backs. Gore is probably done as a running back that can CONSISTENTLY make something out of nothing. That doesn't mean he's done as a running back, which are two different things. See Kevan Barlow in 2-2005 for an idea of what it means to be done as a running back. Get us a good center where we can consistently get us a push up the middle and he can continue to be productive. What I would like to see that we have not seen yet is for his carries to be decreased. He shouldn't be getting more than 15 a game. Many people think that Kendall Hunter isn't the answer but we haven't seen him carry the ball enough to know that for certain. How many times have we seen Frank Gore (or even Marshawn Lynch for that matter) do TERRIBLE on their first 5 or so carries, only to get it going later on? Hunter needs to be given the ball 10 times a game on a regular basis and in some cases, even be the feature back (particularly where his speed can an asset).
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They should cut him so a team that knows how to utilize a pass catching RB can get the most out of him.
Originally posted by lod01:
They should cut him so a team that knows how to utilize a pass catching RB can get the most out of him.

Originally posted by sreese:
The Eagles might give up LeSean McCoy for that...or at least I wish. He'd be perfect in our offense!

Send them LMJ.
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by NinerGod:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Team should try & trade for Adrian Peterson, and I'm not kidding. AP has 3 to 4 years max on his career too. Why not? Give the Vikings our 1st this year and a 2nd. We'd still have 4 picks from 62 thru 95.

lol. no.

1. we can't afford him
2. they won't trade him
3. we can't afford him
4. RB is the least of our worries
5. we can't afford him

You forgot to mention that they won't trade him.

And that we can't afford him.

I disagree. I think it is because we cannot afford him and they would not trade him in any event.

You have a point. Still, we just might not need another HB with the talent we have in the backfield right now.
Gore,Hunter,LMJ,Dixon

one of these guys is leaving, maybe two
Cant wait to see Marcus Lattimore split carries with Gore the kid does NOT fumble the next great back
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
The same could be said for Marshawn Lynch. That's how it goes for many running backs. Gore is probably done as a running back that can CONSISTENTLY make something out of nothing. That doesn't mean he's done as a running back, which are two different things. See Kevan Barlow in 2-2005 for an idea of what it means to be done as a running back. Get us a good center where we can consistently get us a push up the middle and he can continue to be productive. What I would like to see that we have not seen yet is for his carries to be decreased. He shouldn't be getting more than 15 a game. Many people think that Kendall Hunter isn't the answer but we haven't seen him carry the ball enough to know that for certain. How many times have we seen Frank Gore (or even Marshawn Lynch for that matter) do TERRIBLE on their first 5 or so carries, only to get it going later on? Hunter needs to be given the ball 10 times a game on a regular basis and in some cases, even be the feature back (particularly where his speed can an asset).

We've seen Kendall Hunter carry the load before and it was almost like Gore was still there. Gore is for sure a better all around football player, especially when it comes to what RB's do without the ball in their hands, but Kendall Hunter is a pro and has proven to be able to get the job done in Gore's absence.

When he gets a chance he does well. The only game he had 10+ carries this season he had a 4.5 ypc average on 11 carries, a TD, and a 9 yard reception to boot.

Last year he had two games with 10+ carries, one where he had a 7.4 ypc average on 11 carries and another where he had a 4.3 ypc on 10.

His rookie year, when he had to start in place of Gore because of the broken hip, he had three games with 10+ carries. His first one was pretty rough, a 2.5 ypc on 11 carries against AZ, a 6.1 ypc on 12 carries against Seattle, and a 4.8 ypc on 16 carries to close out the regular season.

He's also done quite well in the playoffs when given the chance.

Not sure why he barely got any snaps this year and Gore had one of his highest carries totals ever. Hunter IS NOT Frank Gore, but he's not too far off either.
[ Edited by Gavintech on Jan 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM ]
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Gore,Hunter,LMJ,Dixon

one of these guys is leaving, maybe two

Probably only one. And maybe none. They COULD keep them all if they cut a special teams only player like Ventrone (who I want to see stay), making room for Boobie to stay. But he is a free agent and is most likely moving on.

The rest of them are under contract (very reasonable contracts, yes, even Gore's considering how much he does for this offense) and probably going to stay, unless of course they draft a LMJ replacement and he outperforms LaMichael in camp/preseason. I could see them trying to trade James in that case. There has to be a GM out there that would give up a5th or a 6th to see what they can make of him.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
The same could be said for Marshawn Lynch. That's how it goes for many running backs. Gore is probably done as a running back that can CONSISTENTLY make something out of nothing. That doesn't mean he's done as a running back, which are two different things. See Kevan Barlow in 2-2005 for an idea of what it means to be done as a running back. Get us a good center where we can consistently get us a push up the middle and he can continue to be productive. What I would like to see that we have not seen yet is for his carries to be decreased. He shouldn't be getting more than 15 a game. Many people think that Kendall Hunter isn't the answer but we haven't seen him carry the ball enough to know that for certain. How many times have we seen Frank Gore (or even Marshawn Lynch for that matter) do TERRIBLE on their first 5 or so carries, only to get it going later on? Hunter needs to be given the ball 10 times a game on a regular basis and in some cases, even be the feature back (particularly where his speed can an asset).

We've seen Kendall Hunter carry the load before and it was almost like Gore was still there. Gore is for sure a better all around football player, especially when it comes to what RB's do without the ball in their hands, but Kendall Hunter is a pro and has proven to be able to get the job done in Gore's absence.

When he gets a chance he does well. The only game he had 10+ carries this season he had a 4.5 ypc average on 11 carries, a TD, and a 9 yard reception to boot.

Last year he had two games with 10+ carries, one where he had a 7.4 ypc average on 11 carries and another where he had a 4.3 ypc on 10.

His rookie year, when he had to start in place of Gore because of the broken hip, he had three games with 10+ carries. His first one was pretty rough, a 2.5 ypc on 11 carries against AZ, a 6.1 ypc on 12 carries against Seattle, and a 4.8 ypc on 16 carries to close out the regular season.

He's also done quite well in the playoffs when given the chance.

Not sure why he barely got any snaps this year and Gore had one of his highest carries totals ever. Hunter IS NOT Frank Gore, but he's not too far off either.

I definitely agree that he has done well here and there, but I'd like to see that much more frequently and I put the blame for that not on Kendall Hunter, but on the coaching staff. If Marcus Lattimore comes through, I see us having two bonafide backs in Hunter and Lattimore with a very capable change of pace/back up running back in LaMichael James who proved he can handle the load towards the end of 2012.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I definitely agree that he has done well here and there, but I'd like to see that much more frequently and I put the blame for that not on Kendall Hunter, but on the coaching staff. If Marcus Lattimore comes through, I see us having two bonafide backs in Hunter and Lattimore with a very capable change of pace/back up running back in LaMichael James who proved he can handle the load towards the end of 2012.

Probably what we see in 2015. if James doesn't end up elsewhere first.
I hope we don't go 80/20 or 70/30 whatever it was this year. I thought we would be lessening Gore's carries each year and we did more. Hunter just isn't the same as was in 2011 and almost all of his big runs come when we are blowing the other team out. Most go 0 yards or negative yards. I don't know if he has a future past next year when he is a FA. Hopefully Lattimore does well and we are seeing a 50/50 or so split on him and Gore for the main workload. That or 40/40/15/5 and get James some carries and catches out of the backfield. Don't see Hunter getting many carries next year. James is signed through 2015 so he should be around after 2014, hopefully we start using him out of the backfield to catch passes. Hunter and Gore might be gone after this year. I'd start by having Gore restructure. If we want we could cut him and save like 6.4 million and have a 0 dollar cap hit. I'd have him restructure to like 2-3 which I think he will and then if we want add 2015 on at like 2-3 mil. Can wait too and just restructure this year, leave 2015 alone and then if Lattimore doesnt seem like he's ready to be the #1 then you could re-sign Gore 1 last year.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
I hope we don't go 80/20 or 70/30 whatever it was this year. I thought we would be lessening Gore's carries each year and we did more. Hunter just isn't the same as was in 2011 and almost all of his big runs come when we are blowing the other team out. Most go 0 yards or negative yards. I don't know if he has a future past next year when he is a FA. Hopefully Lattimore does well and we are seeing a 50/50 or so split on him and Gore for the main workload. That or 40/40/15/5 and get James some carries and catches out of the backfield. Don't see Hunter getting many carries next year. James is signed through 2015 so he should be around after 2014, hopefully we start using him out of the backfield to catch passes. Hunter and Gore might be gone after this year. I'd start by having Gore restructure. If we want we could cut him and save like 6.4 million and have a 0 dollar cap hit. I'd have him restructure to like 2-3 which I think he will and then if we want add 2015 on at like 2-3 mil. Can wait too and just restructure this year, leave 2015 alone and then if Lattimore doesnt seem like he's ready to be the #1 then you could re-sign Gore 1 last year.

I'm not conceding that "most of his runs go for 0" but even if that was true carries that go for 0 yards are almost never the RBs fault.

The proof is in the numbers. When he gets more than a token carry here and there he is successful. He's had 10+ carries 8 times in his career and 7 of them were very good days for him.