Originally posted by kronik:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by kronik:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Can we start a thread on Hill vs. Zeigler? I mean, it's not like Hill is lighting the world on fire and we should automatically assume that he will be one of the top 5 WR's, or even make this team.
Maybe the 6.0 yards per catch in his last three games (8 catches for 48 yards) is sexy to some people, but am I missing something here?
At least Battle has proven year-in, year-out that he can play the game. What has Hill done to warrant a free pass on the roster next season?
LOL. What a joke. Let's see here:
Arnaz Battle's first 2 years:
Jason Hill's first 2 years:
Oh yea, add in the facts that Hill does not have chronic knee issues and he is 5 years younger and his salary is cheaper.
Let's see your mindless unintelligent response to this one. Oh wait, aren't you the one to say draft Carriker instead of PWillie? Oh yea, Parys Haralson will never do anything either right?
Bottomline: If you respected and wished Battle well, you would hope he catches on with another team instead of being a 5th 6th WR on ours.
I agree regaarding Hill, but you need to compare like with like. Battle's first two years were spent learning a new position. Statistically they are really not comparable.
That being said, Hill will surely stick unless he screws up big time this summer. I suspect both Battle and Z will not make the final cut.
But I can't see anyone giving up a 5th or 6th round pick for him. Why should they when all they have to do is wait? Although, maybe Nolan will trade for him?
Agreed. But my point was this: MD is claiming "what has Hill done to get a free pass this year?" Well, what did Battle do in his first 2 years to get a free pass in his 3rd year?
Look, I appreciate Battle for what he has done which is mediocre. I don't hate the guy nor wish him any misfortune. But a smart GM (aka Bill Walsh) would trade or let go of an aging injury prone player a year early rather than a year too late. By releasing or trading Battle early, it gives Battle a better chance to be productive for his next team and it also allows our younger guys to gain more experience whether it's from games or practice time.
Football is truly a young man's sport and NFL teams don't keep players on their squads due to sentimental reasons. It's all about "what have you done for me lately" or "potential" or "salary cap friendly players" Neither of those are in Battle's favor.
As for Nolan trading for him? I don't think even he is stupid enough to think Battle is worth a 5th or 6th. Aging WR's just aren't worth much. Hell, stars like Tory Holt and Marvin Harrison have had problems finding teams.
I don't think we disagree here. Just wanted to say, though, that the comment about Nolan was a joke