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Aug 24, 2009 at 8:18 AM
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On a side note I will admit Hill looked better then Smith against the Broncos. But now it's a whole new ball game so only time will tell!
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:21 AM
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Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
Some of you would love to believe that, now wouldn't you? LOL.
Hill is our starter...DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE! In fact, embrace it. He's the better QB. Why can't EVERYONE see this?
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
I have have to agree with Glauber on this one. It's back to square one boys!
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM
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Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
Some of you would love to believe that, now wouldn't you? LOL.
Hill is our starter...DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE! In fact, embrace it. He's the better QB. Why can't EVERYONE see this?
If Hill is the better QB, then why didn't he prove it this past weekend?
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:26 AM
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Safe money says it will be Shaun but.....SOLELY ON LAST SEASON....nothing more. However...I'm not will to bet money on that. Alex shown progression in both the Broncos & the Raiders game. Oh well....time reveals all.
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM
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Originally posted by PTulini:Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
I have have to agree with Glauber on this one. It's back to square one boys!
I agree back o square one because smith made a forward stride yesterday while hill regressed.
This recent game i wonder if he looks it a little differently. Smith did gel with the offense on his first drive. Vernon even low fived him on that completed pass. He converted on his third downs, only to fail when bruce dropped one, vd dropped one, and if you look at sing after vernon dropped it, he smiled when he was returning to the sideline, cause he knew vernon should of caught it. Just like Morgan should of caught that ball. As i said and will continue to say as a wide receiver your job is to catch the ball. Each mans hand touched the ball so they all should of been caught.
Like matt b said yesterday, smiths results were deceiving because a lot wasnt his fault. The ball came out quicker, he stepped up, and stayed in the pocket, and threw it away instead of taking the sack like hill. He did drive the ball down the field. He did put his body out there when we were gonna take the loss, he did make the tackle when there was an int instead of letting them score on defense. It was funny because Ellis even said yeah you gotta take a look at a QB that can make a move like that to try and save the play.
What if sing looked at all these things and said to himself you know, i thought it would be wrapped up with hills play, but hill looked horrible. He shined during raiders practices like everyone said but then did worse than any of our qb's. his pass would of been caught for the int. And above all he was on the 4 yard line, and couldnt punch it in. And some said only two run plays and one throw, well on that one throw, maybe it's just me, but in the past many made a big deal about him diving into the endzone and throwing up his hands and all that crap, but he overthrough out the back of the end zone, and if he really wanted to make a statement he should of dove in the end zone. i watched it and he may have gotten tackled, but he could of made the td himself just the same. So now he was just as close as smith but didnt score, he stayed in to make a statement score after the Raiders scored and couldnt get it done.. And so far thats been his M.O., if your going solely based on this years performance through the first two games. Hill has drove the ball, but even in the red zone, all his drives have stalled.
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:34 AM
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Originally posted by PTulini:Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
Some of you would love to believe that, now wouldn't you? LOL.
Hill is our starter...DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE! In fact, embrace it. He's the better QB. Why can't EVERYONE see this?
If Hill is the better QB, then why didn't he prove it this past weekend?
He proved this in his past 10+ regular season games.
Are you seriously putting that much stock in 2 or 3 offensive series' from a preseason game? This just shows how much bias some fans have. You guys are so emotionally attached to Smith that it's getting past the point of absurdity. You will reach and reach trying to find a way to prove that Smith is as good/better than the incumbent, Hill.
For gods sake, Hill didn't even have a bad game. He wasn't sharp, I agree. But Alex Smith was INACCURATE, once again. Refer to mine and ZRFs post about "dropsies" that seem to affect our team when Smith enters.
You guys do realize that this wasn't an even race to start out? Hill was bounds ahead based on his performance from the past two seasons.
Mike Singletary IS NOT an idiot. He knows who to play. Shaun Hill is going start the season and he's not going to have a short leash either.
[ Edited by Leathaface on Aug 24, 2009 at 8:37 AM ]
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM
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I dont know what Sing is waiting for. One good/great game does not mean one guy is better than the other. I dont think their will be that seperation he is looking for, because neither QB is probowl caliber at this point. In fact, if all the Niners are looking for is a "game manager" there probably wont be much seperation at all.
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:39 AM
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Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by PTulini:Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
Some of you would love to believe that, now wouldn't you? LOL.
Hill is our starter...DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE! In fact, embrace it. He's the better QB. Why can't EVERYONE see this?
If Hill is the better QB, then why didn't he prove it this past weekend?
Are you seriously putting that much stock in 2 or 3 offensive series' from a preseason game? This just shows how much bias some fans have. You guys are so emotionally attached to Smith that it's getting past the point of absurdity. You will reach and reach trying to find a way to prove that Smith is as good/better than the incumbent, Hill.
For gods sake, Hill didn't even have a bad game. He wasn't sharp, I agree. But Alex Smith was INACCURATE, once again. Refer to mine and ZRFs post about "dropsies" that seem to affect our team when Smith enters.
You guys do realize that this wasn't an even race to start out? Hill was bounds ahead based on his performance from the past two seasons.
Mike Singletary IS NOT an idiot. He knows who to play. Shaun Hill is going start the season and he's not going to have a short leash either.
Believe what you want man. I'm not going to argue with you. All I'm saying is that Hill had a chance to put the QB competition away, and he didn't!
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:43 AM
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Originally posted by PTulini:Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by PTulini:Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by PTulini:
I was just watching "FirstTake" on ESPN2 and they were discussing the 49ers QB battle between Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. New York News Day's Bob Glauber said before this past week's game vs Oakland, Shaun Hill had the slight edge. Now, he said (according to his sources) HC Singletary is "going back to the drawing board." That neither QB did well only combining for 50 passing yards. Glauber said the 49ers QB competition is even again!
Some of you would love to believe that, now wouldn't you? LOL.
Hill is our starter...DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE! In fact, embrace it. He's the better QB. Why can't EVERYONE see this?
If Hill is the better QB, then why didn't he prove it this past weekend?
Are you seriously putting that much stock in 2 or 3 offensive series' from a preseason game? This just shows how much bias some fans have. You guys are so emotionally attached to Smith that it's getting past the point of absurdity. You will reach and reach trying to find a way to prove that Smith is as good/better than the incumbent, Hill.
For gods sake, Hill didn't even have a bad game. He wasn't sharp, I agree. But Alex Smith was INACCURATE, once again. Refer to mine and ZRFs post about "dropsies" that seem to affect our team when Smith enters.
You guys do realize that this wasn't an even race to start out? Hill was bounds ahead based on his performance from the past two seasons.
Mike Singletary IS NOT an idiot. He knows who to play. Shaun Hill is going start the season and he's not going to have a short leash either.
Believe what you want man. I'm not going to argue with you. All I'm saying is that Hill had a chance to put the QB competition away, and he didn't!
Believe what I want? LOL, I should be telling YOU to believe what YOU want.
All I'm saying is Smith sucks....and he's not proven worthy of a roster spot...yet you guys think he's on even ground...or worse, that he should start, .
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:54 AM
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Not sure what game you watched but Hill was HORRIBLE, easily the worst of all 3 qb's against the raiders. He couldn't throw the ball 5 yards, maybe he was throwing into 30 mile an hour winds because that's what his throws look like. Sorry but Hill won't get us into the playoffs the defense and run game will. He is 7-3 with 2 wins against the rams...he beat the bengals...the backup buccaneers, the bills, mmmm the jets with turnover favre...hes amazing! Call me when he leads the team to a victory over a good opponent. Homers Fackkkk
Aug 24, 2009 at 8:57 AM
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Originally posted by Thrash88:
Not sure what game you watched but Hill was HORRIBLE, easily the worst of all 3 qb's against the raiders. He couldn't throw the ball 5 yards, maybe he was throwing into 30 mile an hour winds because that's what his throws look like. Sorry but Hill won't get us into the playoffs the defense and run game will. He is 7-3 with 2 wins against the rams...he beat the bengals...the backup buccaneers, the bills, mmmm the jets with turnover favre...hes amazing! Call me when he leads the team to a victory over a good opponent. Homers Fackkkk
Your qualifications of Hill's wins is disgusting. There's no need to respond further to this trash of a post.
Aug 24, 2009 at 9:00 AM
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Why? You don't like facts? Hill has not beat a good team in his career sorry to inform you but I'm not a Smith homer either they both have alot of work to do but for you to say Hill wasn't bad Saturday is a joke. Look into things before you run your mouth I know football and I can tell you Hill played the worst of the 3 qb's on Saturday HANDS DOWN.
Aug 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM
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PS He has had his chances at good teams playing against the Cowboys...The Dolphins...The Cardinals and even the *so so* Seahawks...he lost every one of them
Aug 24, 2009 at 9:07 AM
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Originally posted by Thrash88:
Why? You don't like facts? Hill has not beat a good team in his career sorry to inform you but I'm not a Smith homer either they both have alot of work to do but for you to say Hill wasn't bad Saturday is a joke. Look into things before you run your mouth I know football and I can tell you Hill played the worst of the 3 qb's on Saturday HANDS DOWN.
Learn to use commas and periods. You lose a lot credibility when you can't use halfway decent grammar in your posts. Yes I'm attacking your grammar and not the content of your post.
As far as football goes, well, you don't really warrant a response. Have a good day.