Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Rascal:
There we have it, self-admitted bias.
It's bias on our behalf too. There's never 1 way correct way to build but I do know Hoyer throwing to Garcon, Goodwin behind a sub par line is not going to come close to our 1980's offense. I wish we hit offense up 1st since it's harder and takes longer to build but it is what it is.
It is like people have forgotten about the heyday of the 49ers? May be they are too young? May be they weren't even born? People are like taking guys like Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, etc for granted. They must have forgotten what got us there. Just unbelievable. Defense this, defense that. In 2012, we had a top 3 D and where did that get us? Certainly not the Super Bowl. LOL.
Can't blame any of that on the defense. More like kap kept doing the same failed play over and over when he needed to make it count. I like building the defense, that's where the games are won. Look at the Ravens first superbowl, They had a putrid offense.
You just contradicted yourself. I didn't blame the D if you had read what I wrote properly. What I said was a top 3 D still might not guarantee you success if you don't have a good enough O. You said it yourself, Kap wasn't good enough which in essence meant the O wasn't good enough.
One could argue that both the 2012 and 2013 49ers offenses held more talent than 2013 and 2014 Seahawks offenses and in both cases we were looking at top defensive teams.
Alright, is time to put a stop to this senseless debate when is so obvious the way to go is offense.
Don't agree with me? All you have to do is take a look into history. At this point, I would rather confine the discussion with fellow Webzoners who are actually old enough to have lived through the Super Bowl years in the 80s. Because unless you had actually experienced it for yourself, Joe Montana and Jerry Rice are just names and you probably wouldn't fully appreciate what a true great offense actually means. Just my guess, since is absolutely inexplicable why so many people believe the 9ers should just focus on the D other than they are just biased on defense.
Right, so let's get to it. OK, so we have won 5 x Super Bowls to date right? Does anyone of you have any idea how the teams in every single one of those 5 years looked like? One easy way of looking at it is to examine the state of the team on each side of the ball. It is actually pretty simple and blatantly obvious why we were so successful once you take a look at the rankings:
1981
Offense - 13th
Defense - 27th
1984
Offense - 2nd
Defense - 19th
1988
Offense - 2nd
Defense - 26th
1989
Offense - 1st
Defense - 25th
1994
Offense - 2nd
Defense - 21st
So, as you can see, apart from 1981 when Joe Montana was only beginning to come into his own and when Jerry Rice hadn't even arrived yet, our offense had never ranked lower than 2nd. Let me repeat, our offense had NEVER ranked lower than 2nd in those 4 years!!
Then, you contrast that with our defense. Our D had never ranked higher than 19th in those 5 years. While granted our D did punch above its weight, but the 49ers back then were known for its offensive prowess and by the way it worked too since we have the hardware to prove it.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying defense is not important. As I have said in my previous posts, of course in the perfect world you would strive to have the No.1 O as well as D, but as we all know that is next to impossible in the salary cap era. What is important though is at least you need to have balance. Because no matter how great your D is, they will never be able to put enough points on the board if your offense totally sucks. We tried in 2012 and our D was ranked 3rd in the league and we couldn't get it done.
So, in sum, I shall hope may be people will finally wake up and actually think about what our team should look like going forward drawing from 9ers' successful case studies in the past.
This isn't about whether you prefer defense or offense, it is about what actually works and what will get us back there again!!
Good post. I still remember Eric Wright or one of our DB's tackling the WR danny white threw to at the last second to seal our first super bowl win. And who can forget the Goal line stand against Pete Johnson. As for our super bowl loss. We had Justin Smith at less than 50% with that torn pectorial. I think that was one of the factors of us losing against Baltimore.