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Spygate 2015 - Damn Cheats....
Sep 8, 2015 at 10:15 AM
- Nes49
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Sep 8, 2015 at 2:49 PM
- socal9er42
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Yeah ESPN's going full court press with this one.
If true, it further taints the Patriots image during their SB era.
If true, it further taints the Patriots image during their SB era.
Sep 8, 2015 at 2:50 PM
- Young2Rice
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Patriots legacy will always have a star next to it.
Haha
Haha
Sep 8, 2015 at 2:58 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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http://nypost.com/2014/10/12/they-are-cheaters-spygate-the-nfl-scandal-that-started-it-all/
There is even allegations that they speak to Brady right up to and during the play. I wouldn't put it past them.
There is even allegations that they speak to Brady right up to and during the play. I wouldn't put it past them.
Sep 8, 2015 at 3:16 PM
- Young2Rice
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I dont think its a coincidence they win a super bowl and get caught cheating right after, TWICE.
Sep 8, 2015 at 4:38 PM
- LisaTwelve
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I don't remember hearing anything about this at the time . . .
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2015/9/8/9278559/seahawks-took-extreme-precaution-against-patriots-in-preparation-for
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2015/9/8/9278559/seahawks-took-extreme-precaution-against-patriots-in-preparation-for
According to Greg Bishop, Michael Rosenberg, and Thayer Evans:
Multiple teams called Seattle, unsolicited, with advice on how to secure the team's practices for the Super Bowl. Their message was clear: You're not playing John Fox's Broncos again. You're facing Bill Belichick and the Patriots. You never know who might be watching.
Sep 8, 2015 at 5:14 PM
- Ronnie49Lott
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Check out this article
The entire run of Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots is tainted--
Be careful New England Patriots fans; it's a treacherous dismount from that high horse.
One week after the moral victory of an activist judge chastising the NFL and siding with the NFL Player's Association in vacating Tom Brady's four-game suspension, the New England Patriots are back in the news, this time for a fascinating, revelatory ESPN.com piece that details the 15 years of deceptions, scams and tricks — or, to be more frank, cheating — that aided in the Pats dynasty and each of the team's four Super Bowl victories.
• "During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)"
• "A former Patriots employee who was directly involved in the taping system says "it helped our offense a lot," especially in divisional games in which there was a short amount of time between the first and second matchups, making it harder for opposing coaches to change signals."
• "During games, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots' videographers were told to look like media members, to tape over their team logos or turn their sweatshirt inside out, to wear credentials that said Patriots TV or Kraft Productions. The videographers also were provided with excuses for what to tell NFL security if asked what they were doing: Tell them you're filming the quarterbacks."
• "At Gillette Stadium, the scrambling and jamming of the opponents' coach-to-quarterback radio line — "small s—" that many teams do, according to a former Pats assistant coach — occurred so often that one team asked a league official to sit in the coaches' box during the game and wait for it to happen. Sure enough, on a key third down, the headset went out."
• "Goodell said that he had spoken with Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and then-head coach Andy Reid and that "both said the outcome of the [February] 2005 Super Bowl was legitimate," an assertion contradicted by the private feelings of many senior members of the team."
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/new-england-patriots-cheating-spygate-deflategate-cameras-espn-report-tom-brady-bill-belichick-roger-goodell
The entire run of Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots is tainted--
Be careful New England Patriots fans; it's a treacherous dismount from that high horse.
One week after the moral victory of an activist judge chastising the NFL and siding with the NFL Player's Association in vacating Tom Brady's four-game suspension, the New England Patriots are back in the news, this time for a fascinating, revelatory ESPN.com piece that details the 15 years of deceptions, scams and tricks — or, to be more frank, cheating — that aided in the Pats dynasty and each of the team's four Super Bowl victories.
• "During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)"
• "A former Patriots employee who was directly involved in the taping system says "it helped our offense a lot," especially in divisional games in which there was a short amount of time between the first and second matchups, making it harder for opposing coaches to change signals."
• "During games, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots' videographers were told to look like media members, to tape over their team logos or turn their sweatshirt inside out, to wear credentials that said Patriots TV or Kraft Productions. The videographers also were provided with excuses for what to tell NFL security if asked what they were doing: Tell them you're filming the quarterbacks."
• "At Gillette Stadium, the scrambling and jamming of the opponents' coach-to-quarterback radio line — "small s—" that many teams do, according to a former Pats assistant coach — occurred so often that one team asked a league official to sit in the coaches' box during the game and wait for it to happen. Sure enough, on a key third down, the headset went out."
• "Goodell said that he had spoken with Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and then-head coach Andy Reid and that "both said the outcome of the [February] 2005 Super Bowl was legitimate," an assertion contradicted by the private feelings of many senior members of the team."
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/new-england-patriots-cheating-spygate-deflategate-cameras-espn-report-tom-brady-bill-belichick-roger-goodell
Sep 8, 2015 at 5:25 PM
- Ronnie49Lott
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Marshall Faulk: Patriots cheated the Rams out of a Super Bowl Posted by Michael David Smith on January 30, 2013,
Faulk says the Rams installed new plays for the game against the Patriots, and that the Patriots seemed to be so perfectly prepared for them that Faulk believes they must have used espionage.
"I understand Bill is a great coach," Faulk said. "But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn't ran. . . . And a couple of plays on third down that we walked through also . . . And they created a check for it. It's just little things like that. It's either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you'd seen it and knew what to do."
Faulk seems to believe Belichick and the Patriots got off easy for Spygate.
"Am I bitter about how the league handled them taping people? If Bountygate was that bad and Sean got suspended for a whole year? If we want to talk about some unfair assessment of how we're assessing things? Man. If you lost a game and your brother cheated you, you'll remember that."
And 11 years later, Faulk still remembers a Super Bowl that he believes the Patriots stole.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/marshall-faulk-patriots-cheated-the-rams-out-of-a-super-bowl/
Faulk says the Rams installed new plays for the game against the Patriots, and that the Patriots seemed to be so perfectly prepared for them that Faulk believes they must have used espionage.
"I understand Bill is a great coach," Faulk said. "But No. 13 [Kurt Warner] will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn't ran. . . . And a couple of plays on third down that we walked through also . . . And they created a check for it. It's just little things like that. It's either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you'd seen it and knew what to do."
Faulk seems to believe Belichick and the Patriots got off easy for Spygate.
"Am I bitter about how the league handled them taping people? If Bountygate was that bad and Sean got suspended for a whole year? If we want to talk about some unfair assessment of how we're assessing things? Man. If you lost a game and your brother cheated you, you'll remember that."
And 11 years later, Faulk still remembers a Super Bowl that he believes the Patriots stole.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/marshall-faulk-patriots-cheated-the-rams-out-of-a-super-bowl/
Sep 8, 2015 at 5:33 PM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by LisaTwelve:
I don't remember hearing anything about this at the time . . .
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2015/9/8/9278559/seahawks-took-extreme-precaution-against-patriots-in-preparation-for
According to Greg Bishop, Michael Rosenberg, and Thayer Evans:
Multiple teams called Seattle, unsolicited, with advice on how to secure the team's practices for the Super Bowl. Their message was clear: You're not playing John Fox's Broncos again. You're facing Bill Belichick and the Patriots. You never know who might be watching.
I don't either. Damn those PAts are dirty. Its the NFL owner's own fault for not speaking up to protect the shield.
If they did the niners dirty imagine how we would feel.
Sep 8, 2015 at 5:34 PM
- KowboyKiller
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All I gotta say is Joe Montana didn't need his team to spy on the other team or deflate his footballs to win four super bowls..
Sep 8, 2015 at 5:52 PM
- 9erred
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Please lock this thread and put it in NFL talk, if at all on the zone. I am SO over this stuff. NFL network was my favorite now I tune it out because I am so tired of the drama.
This type of drama used to be put on the 49ers during their dynasty run also. Folks felt the niners cheated, when in reality success breads success. The Niners WON when they had back to back HOF quarterbacks. Patriots WON once they got Tom Brady.
This type of drama used to be put on the 49ers during their dynasty run also. Folks felt the niners cheated, when in reality success breads success. The Niners WON when they had back to back HOF quarterbacks. Patriots WON once they got Tom Brady.
Sep 8, 2015 at 6:38 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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So only Pats get affected by this? What about the fact that Goodell destroyed the tapes and he asked Mike Martz to cover up? Sweep that under the rug, right?
Sep 8, 2015 at 6:54 PM
- KP82
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• "During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)"
Absolutely pathetic
Absolutely pathetic
Sep 8, 2015 at 7:18 PM
- LZRD_WZRD
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I never put much stock into the whole Patriots cheating thing. Sure it happened, but I didn't think it affected the game. Reading this s**t, how they even stole the other team's play sheets . . . that's just f**ked up. And the fact that they were known to do this is pretty indicative of the corruption and incompetence in the league.
Sep 8, 2015 at 7:21 PM
- RishikeshA
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Owner Robert Crafty gives the image of a benevolent owner that has an air of respectability. Belichick holds his cards close to the vest and would do anything to win. I think the owners are more upset that they can't figure out how they are being hustled.