There are 253 users in the forums
Greg Roman signs with bills
Aug 19, 2015 at 12:24 AM
- jedediahyork
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,988
A lot of the negativity you'll hear is what can't be separated between Roman and Harbaugh. Roman is actually pretty good in the running game. If the HC is smart, you guys will play more of a play-action scheme. Take a look at the 2011/2012 Niners to get a good idea of a Roman-style offense. When they "took the training wheels" off Kaepernick after they traded Smith away is when these issues you hear about started. And I strongly feel it was because of Harbaugh, not Roman.
Aug 19, 2015 at 7:49 AM
- ninerjok
- Veteran
- Posts: 16,114
Saw a little of the Panthers @ bills preseason game and didn't seem like Buffalo was having much of a problem getting plays off on time so interpret that as you like. Also, Roman was on sideline so he can radio playcall directly to QB since he's got full autonomy as OC now.
[ Edited by ninerjok on Aug 19, 2015 at 8:27 AM ]
Aug 19, 2015 at 11:06 AM
- Geeked
- Veteran
- Posts: 10,057
Originally posted by ninerjok:Saw a little of the Panthers @ bills preseason game and didn't seem like Buffalo was having much of a problem getting plays off on time so interpret that as you like. Also, Roman was on sideline so he can radio playcall directly to QB since he's got full autonomy as OC now.
Or, someone is phoning plays into him and the majority of his influence lies between Sunday's.
Aug 21, 2015 at 6:30 PM
- NCommand
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 123,365
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
A lot of the negativity you'll hear is what can't be separated between Roman and Harbaugh. Roman is actually pretty good in the running game. If the HC is smart, you guys will play more of a play-action scheme. Take a look at the 2011/2012 Niners to get a good idea of a Roman-style offense. When they "took the training wheels" off Kaepernick after they traded Smith away is when these issues you hear about started. And I strongly feel it was because of Harbaugh, not Roman.
"was" pretty good in the running game coordination. NFL caught up to it after a couple years and minus CK, had absolutely nothing on the ground in the playoffs.
Aug 21, 2015 at 7:27 PM
- 9ers4eva
- Veteran
- Posts: 17,521
He's the same guy he has always been. Pass game will be a major struggle for Buffalo. Even yesterday every time Bills needed a 3rd and long conversion a deep sideline or fade got called. He ignores using the middle of the field way too much. With the speed Buffalo has at wr Clay and Shady should have field day in the middle of field but I doubt they'll get enough looks.
Aug 22, 2015 at 11:11 AM
- NCommand
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 123,365
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
He's the same guy he has always been. Pass game will be a major struggle for Buffalo. Even yesterday every time Bills needed a 3rd and long conversion a deep sideline or fade got called. He ignores using the middle of the field way too much. With the speed Buffalo has at wr Clay and Shady should have field day in the middle of field but I doubt they'll get enough looks.
Yup.
Aug 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM
- Dr_Bill_Walsh
- Veteran
- Posts: 20,126
Aug 30, 2015 at 5:07 PM
- jedediahyork
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,988
Bills looking decent to me...
Aug 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM
- Young2Rice
- Veteran
- Posts: 70,009
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by jedediahyork:A lot of the negativity you'll hear is what can't be separated between Roman and Harbaugh. Roman is actually pretty good in the running game. If the HC is smart, you guys will play more of a play-action scheme. Take a look at the 2011/2012 Niners to get a good idea of a Roman-style offense. When they "took the training wheels" off Kaepernick after they traded Smith away is when these issues you hear about started. And I strongly feel it was because of Harbaugh, not Roman.
"was" pretty good in the running game coordination. NFL caught up to it after a couple years and minus CK, had absolutely nothing on the ground in the playoffs.
Wrong.
2011 we had 147 rush YPG. Good for 4th best in the playoffs
2012 we had 218 rush YPg. Good for first in the playoffs. We had the best offense statistically in the playoffs. (Oh but no credit is given for an innovative offense, at least for a year)
2013 we had 152 YPG. Good first first again in runnkng in the playoffs.
Our offense wasn't the best but when we had our horses the run game was elite.
We're about to see a real crap offense now that can't even block.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Aug 30, 2015 at 5:45 PM ]
Aug 30, 2015 at 7:14 PM
- Geeked
- Veteran
- Posts: 10,057
Originally posted by Young2Rice:Wrong.
2011 we had 147 rush YPG. Good for 4th best in the playoffs
2012 we had 218 rush YPg. Good for first in the playoffs. We had the best offense statistically in the playoffs. (Oh but no credit is given for an innovative offense, at least for a year)
2013 we had 152 YPG. Good first first again in runnkng in the playoffs.
Our offense wasn't the best but when we had our horses the run game was elite.
We're about to see a real crap offense now that can't even block.
May want to save the nut swinging for a couple of years. The inefficiencies of the HarRoman offense are well documented and if you believe that Harbrokens will be vindicated by Michigan's performance, you don't know jack about the college sport.
Aug 31, 2015 at 10:46 AM
- NCommand
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 123,365
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Wrong.
2011 we had 147 rush YPG. Good for 4th best in the playoffs
2012 we had 218 rush YPg. Good for first in the playoffs. We had the best offense statistically in the playoffs. (Oh but no credit is given for an innovative offense, at least for a year)
2013 we had 152 YPG. Good first first again in runnkng in the playoffs.
Our offense wasn't the best but when we had our horses the run game was elite.
We're about to see a real crap offense now that can't even block.
May want to save the nut swinging for a couple of years. The inefficiencies of the HarRoman offense are well documented and if you believe that Harbrokens will be vindicated by Michigan's performance, you don't know jack about the college sport.
LMAO. Too bad all of those running yards were d/t CK scrambles.
Sep 11, 2015 at 4:02 PM
- FL9er
- Veteran
- Posts: 10,793
Looking forward to watching Roman put together an offense with LeSean McCoy, Sammy Watkins, Percy Harvin, Charles Clay, an average OL, and no quarterback, and a HC who wants to run the ball and run it all costs. What could possibly go wrong?!?
Sep 11, 2015 at 7:49 PM
- JTsBiggestFan
- Veteran
- Posts: 7,709
I want Roman to be successful just to spite Harbaugh.
In some weird ways, it's possible that even if we dumped Roman for a Kubiak or Norv Turner, Harbaugh might have still undermined them.
That's just sickening to think about.
In some weird ways, it's possible that even if we dumped Roman for a Kubiak or Norv Turner, Harbaugh might have still undermined them.
That's just sickening to think about.
Sep 11, 2015 at 9:42 PM
- cciowa
- Veteran
- Posts: 60,541
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
A lot of the negativity you'll hear is what can't be separated between Roman and Harbaugh. Roman is actually pretty good in the running game. If the HC is smart, you guys will play more of a play-action scheme. Take a look at the 2011/2012 Niners to get a good idea of a Roman-style offense. When they "took the training wheels" off Kaepernick after they traded Smith away is when these issues you hear about started. And I strongly feel it was because of Harbaugh, not Roman.
"was" pretty good in the running game coordination. NFL caught up to it after a couple years and minus CK, had absolutely nothing on the ground in the playoffs.
Wrong.
2011 we had 147 rush YPG. Good for 4th best in the playoffs
2012 we had 218 rush YPg. Good for first in the playoffs. We had the best offense statistically in the playoffs. (Oh but no credit is given for an innovative offense, at least for a year)
2013 we had 152 YPG. Good first first again in runnkng in the playoffs.
Our offense wasn't the best but when we had our horses the run game was elite.
We're about to see a real crap offense now that can't even block.
how many of those stats came from ck and gore changing plays in the huddle to plays that worked?
Sep 11, 2015 at 10:55 PM
- 9ers4eva
- Veteran
- Posts: 17,521
Originally posted by Young2Rice:Wrong.
2011 we had 147 rush YPG. Good for 4th best in the playoffs
2012 we had 218 rush YPg. Good for first in the playoffs. We had the best offense statistically in the playoffs. (Oh but no credit is given for an innovative offense, at least for a year)
2013 we had 152 YPG. Good first first again in runnkng in the playoffs.
Our offense wasn't the best but when we had our horses the run game was elite.
We're about to see a real crap offense now that can't even block.
The run game looked fine in the preseason. The offense can run block.