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Ryan Mallett traded to Texans

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NE takes him in the 3rd round, develops him for 3 years, gets a conditional 7th in return. They're losing their edge.
Houston's QB play has been so erratic that something had to be done. Probably dropped four rounds in value this offseason, but worth a look by the Texans.
LOL. The Fitzpatrick experiment lasted how long?

Will be interesting to see Mallett in a different offense. I think he's pretty good, but imobile so I hope Houston's line is up to the task.
Originally posted by WeDidIt:
LOL. The Fitzpatrick experiment lasted how long?

Will be interesting to see Mallett in a different offense. I think he's pretty good, but imobile so I hope Houston's line is up to the task.

This is the very reason I didn't want him in San Francisco. Many were vouching for us to trade for him when Gabbert began to stink it up in the preseason, but it makes no sense to get a guy that is immobile in today's NFL unless you have a dominant pass protecting O-Line.
not sure why they think Mallet is an upgrade over Keenum?
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
not sure why they think Mallet is an upgrade over Keenum?

This.

I don't understand why they hate that kid so much. He really deserved a shot.
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
This.

I don't understand why they hate that kid so much. He really deserved a shot.

I see it as a pure desperation move. Keenum has shown more in one season than Mallett has in three years. I was worried for a second that Bill O'Brien might end up being a really good coach and that Houston with all their defensive talent would be a formidable contender but my fears have now been mostly assuaged.
I don't have any stats but as II recall Keenum did a respectable job for them considering how the team seemed to fall apart so fast.
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Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
not sure why they think Mallet is an upgrade over Keenum?

This.

I don't understand why they hate that kid so much. He really deserved a shot.

Do they have another Keenum on the team? The one I've been watching was worse than Gabbert by a long shot!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I see it as a pure desperation move. Keenum has shown more in one season than Mallett has in three years. I was worried for a second that Bill O'Brien might end up being a really good coach and that Houston with all their defensive talent would be a formidable contender but my fears have now been mostly assuaged.

That's unfair. Keenum actually got an opportunity to start while Mallett played behind Brady which meant he didn't play at all. Mallett is the superior QB with the higher ceiling.

Keenum had some flashes but he really isn't that good. Which is why Houston still went after Fitzpatrick after getting rid of Schaub. And now they went after Mallett. Says a lot about how "good" Keenum is.
[ Edited by WeDidIt on Sep 1, 2014 at 5:52 PM ]
Originally posted by WeDidIt:
That's unfair. Keenum actually got an opportunity to start while Mallett played behind Brady which meant he didn't play at all. Mallett is the superior QB with the higher ceiling.

Keenum had some flashes but he really isn't that good. Which is why Houston still went after Fitzpatrick after getting rid of Schaub. And now they went after Mallett. Says a lot about how "good" Keenum is.

Based on what exactly? Because he got drafted earlier? He's been so impressive that Belichick traded a former 3rd rounder for a conditional 7th round pick.

Even in Houston the media is talking about how O'Brien never really gave Keenum any chance at all to compete for the starting spot.



Mallett got beaten out by Patriots rookie quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo this preseason. Keenum didn't get beaten out by anyone on the Texans. He simply never was given a chance one way or the other.

Consider that Keenum found himself relegated to second string by O'Brien before the preseason ever began despite the potential he flashed starting for a battered, beaten down team that had given up last season. Keenum never received a single opportunity to play with the starters the entire preseason. He didn't even get to play in the first half of a game until the meaningless preseason finale.

There are casino games less stacked in the house's favor than this.

O'Brien clearly simply wanted to bring in his own guys. This makes O'Brien like a lot of other coaches. It doesn't mean he's a bad coach. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be excited to see the offensive gameplan he breaks out for the Redskins game next Sunday (all the ways he utilizes Arian Foster are going to be fascinating).



http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/08-31-14-case-keenum-deserved-better-from-bill-obrien-never-given-a-real-chance-before-ryan-mallett-panic-move/




This is a reach at best, one with curious timing. At worst, it's a bit of panic — a desperate lunge at the familiar over legitimate potential.

The Patriots have been desperately trying to unload Mallett for something for a while now. If O'Brien's really excited about Mallett, why didn't he foster a trade earlier when the tall quarterback could have more time with the Texans offense?

If you're truly committed to a quarterback is there a real difference between the conditional seventh rounder the Texans end up giving up for Mallett and the slightly better draft pick they might have needed to surrender earlier?

This is a quarterback we're talking about, the most important position in the NFL.


[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Sep 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM ]
Mallett sucks
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by WeDidIt:
That's unfair. Keenum actually got an opportunity to start while Mallett played behind Brady which meant he didn't play at all. Mallett is the superior QB with the higher ceiling.

Keenum had some flashes but he really isn't that good. Which is why Houston still went after Fitzpatrick after getting rid of Schaub. And now they went after Mallett. Says a lot about how "good" Keenum is.

Based on what exactly? Because he got drafted earlier? He's been so impressive that Belichick traded a former 3rd rounder for a conditional 7th round pick.

Even in Houston the media is talking about how O'Brien never really gave Keenum any chance at all to compete for the starting spot.



Mallett got beaten out by Patriots rookie quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo this preseason. Keenum didn't get beaten out by anyone on the Texans. He simply never was given a chance one way or the other.

Consider that Keenum found himself relegated to second string by O'Brien before the preseason ever began despite the potential he flashed starting for a battered, beaten down team that had given up last season. Keenum never received a single opportunity to play with the starters the entire preseason. He didn't even get to play in the first half of a game until the meaningless preseason finale.

There are casino games less stacked in the house's favor than this.

O'Brien clearly simply wanted to bring in his own guys. This makes O'Brien like a lot of other coaches. It doesn't mean he's a bad coach. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be excited to see the offensive gameplan he breaks out for the Redskins game next Sunday (all the ways he utilizes Arian Foster are going to be fascinating).



http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/08-31-14-case-keenum-deserved-better-from-bill-obrien-never-given-a-real-chance-before-ryan-mallett-panic-move/





This is a reach at best, one with curious timing. At worst, it's a bit of panic — a desperate lunge at the familiar over legitimate potential.

The Patriots have been desperately trying to unload Mallett for something for a while now. If O'Brien's really excited about Mallett, why didn't he foster a trade earlier when the tall quarterback could have more time with the Texans offense?

If you're truly committed to a quarterback is there a real difference between the conditional seventh rounder the Texans end up giving up for Mallett and the slightly better draft pick they might have needed to surrender earlier?

This is a quarterback we're talking about, the most important position in the NFL.



False! Mallet didn't get beat they knew he was as good as gone so they didn't give him any snaps.
They took a 7th even though he was a 3rd because is something instead of walking for nothing.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Based on what exactly? Because he got drafted earlier? He's been so impressive that Belichick traded a former 3rd rounder for a conditional 7th round pick.

Even in Houston the media is talking about how O'Brien never really gave Keenum any chance at all to compete for the starting spot.



Mallett got beaten out by Patriots rookie quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo this preseason. Keenum didn't get beaten out by anyone on the Texans. He simply never was given a chance one way or the other.

Consider that Keenum found himself relegated to second string by O'Brien before the preseason ever began despite the potential he flashed starting for a battered, beaten down team that had given up last season. Keenum never received a single opportunity to play with the starters the entire preseason. He didn't even get to play in the first half of a game until the meaningless preseason finale.

There are casino games less stacked in the house's favor than this.

O'Brien clearly simply wanted to bring in his own guys. This makes O'Brien like a lot of other coaches. It doesn't mean he's a bad coach. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be excited to see the offensive gameplan he breaks out for the Redskins game next Sunday (all the ways he utilizes Arian Foster are going to be fascinating).


http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/08-31-14-case-keenum-deserved-better-from-bill-obrien-never-given-a-real-chance-before-ryan-mallett-panic-move/




This is a reach at best, one with curious timing. At worst, it's a bit of panic — a desperate lunge at the familiar over legitimate potential.

The Patriots have been desperately trying to unload Mallett for something for a while now. If O'Brien's really excited about Mallett, why didn't he foster a trade earlier when the tall quarterback could have more time with the Texans offense?

If you're truly committed to a quarterback is there a real difference between the conditional seventh rounder the Texans end up giving up for Mallett and the slightly better draft pick they might have needed to surrender earlier?

This is a quarterback we're talking about, the most important position in the NFL.


Based on ceiling and ability.
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