Originally posted by susweel:
Kap should be #1
THIS!
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Originally posted by susweel:
Kap should be #1
Originally posted by thl408:imo
Rodgers > Brady
Matt Ryan is too high
Luck is too high
Eli is too high
Flacco is too high
Romo is too low: I know he chokes, but he's better than Flacco/Ryan
RWilson is too low
Kap is too low
Originally posted by crabman82:jaworksi is just an espn mouth piece sent out there to say things to get a response. i bet this list has guys out of place just to spark debate. just like last year when he said kap could be the greatest qb of all time or whatever, i love kaep but even i dont believe that,.
Originally posted by verb1der:Originally posted by susweel:Kap should be #1
THIS!
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by crabman82:
jaworksi is just an espn mouth piece sent out there to say things to get a response. i bet this list has guys out of place just to spark debate. just like last year when he said kap could be the greatest qb of all time or whatever, i love kaep but even i dont believe that,.
The thing is, he has all the physical tools to be the greatest. He isn't a dumbass, either. So it is entirely possible that he COULD be the greatest of all time, but whether or not that is likely is a completely different story. Jaworksi never said he WILL BE the greatest, just that he could be.
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
I love Kap, but I agree where he is at here on this list. Too many games last year were total duds for him.
Originally posted by crake49:
I get that Andrew Luck is a real good young quarterback, but he's rated at #5 and Kaepernick is rated at #13. I've pointed this out before, but again, this is what bothers me about the 5 to 13 thing:
Career QB rating: Kaepernick 93.8; Luck 81.5
Completion %: Kaepernick 59.8; Luck 57
TD %: Kaepernick 4.9; Luck 3.7
Int %: Kaepernick 1.7; Luck 2.3
YPC: Kaepernick 13.2; Luck 12.0
Now, when you get to scheme-based stats, Luck wins
Passing yardage per game: Kaepernick 157.7; Luck 256
TD Passes: Kaepernick 31 (23 starts); Luck 46 (32 starts)
Yardage: Kaepernick 5,046; Luck 8,256
Like I say, I get that Luck is real good. What I don't get is why someone has him rated 8 levels above Kaepernick. That actually doesn't make any sense to me.
Originally posted by DavidWGibson:
Because Kaep is still a work in progress, with a high ceiling. Luck is very much ready to go with a high ceiling.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
If I were to make a list or lists it would have to be divided into what have they done, what potential do they have going forward and my likes/dislikes in style.
A: Best Today--intensity lives here
P Manning--unbelievable precision
Brady--heady and a winner
Brees--maximizes his talent, good under pressure
Rodgers--most all round
B: Great Talent/Occasional WTF
Roethlisberger--strength overcomes dumb
E Manning--elite...oops...erratic
C: Talent/Questionable Decisionmakers
Rivers--pressure gets to him
Romo--everythings' going well? Time to throw the ball away.
Cutler--throw it long...even if it's to a defender
C.2: Good but Next Level?
Ryan--just doesn't overwhelm in big games
Flacco--one year wonder? strong arm, selfish?
Smith--Control over sizzle
Bradford--but for injuries?
D: Young and Upcoming
Kaepernick--most raw talent
Luck--most overall mental/physical conbination
Wilson--gamer
RGIII--thought he was a gamer...?
Newton--2nd most raw talent
Foles--can he do it again?
These are groupings, not rankings. The difference is that I have no idea who is the best but I see these guys as similar in their careers so far.
Kaepernick may become the best QB of all time but at the moment he is just a huge ball of amazing raw talent. It's up to his attitude and coaches to take the next step. He's smart enough, can he see the field well enough?