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Originally posted by DeUh:
Wow Daryl Washington is a huge loss to that defense. Combine that with the departure of Karlos Dansby and they officially have a problem now.

For those who are interested here is a look at their ILB depth.

Jonathan Brown Exp R
Height 6003 Weight 238
40 Yrd Dash 4.98
10 Yrd Dash 1.78
Bench 16
Vertical 31
Broad 09´00"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.56
3-Cone Drill 7.77
Strengths Nice arm length for his size. Athletic with good feet. Quick to shoot gaps. Natural bender who moves very well laterally. Excellent range -- thrives in pursuit. Productive tackler who flashes pop on contact. Has special-teams experience. Football smart. Good weight-room work ethic. Three-year starter. Was a 21-year-old senior.
Weaknesses Safety size. Shoddy instincts and eye discipline. Does not play a big man's game -- skirts blocks instead of taking on with force. Unschooled to blocking schemes. Leaky contain player. Loses gap integrity, takes some inaccurate angles and runs himself out of position to make plays. Effectiveness wanes in traffic. Struggles in man coverage and zone awareness is limited. Intermittent intensity and urgency. Uneven performance. Alarmingly disappointing at the combine

Glenn Carson Exp.R
Height 6025 Weight 238
40 Yrd Dash 4.70
10 Yrd Dash 1.62
Bench 30
Vertical 35
Broad 09´10"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.25
3-Cone Drill 6.99
Strengths Secure tackler. Can drop adequately into short zone. Has a special-teams mentality. Team captain and three-year starter with solid personal and football character. Smart, hardworking and competitive.
Weaknesses Needs to improve functional strength. Does not play with pop or power in his hands and gets stuck on blocks. Not a striker. Takes false steps. Average play speed. Tight hips. Doesn't play downhill. Struggles to keep pace with athletic tight ends.

Keenan Clayton Exp. 4
Height 6011 Weight 229
40 Yrd Dash 4.59
10 Yrd Dash 1.56
Bench 27
Vertical 41 1/2
Broad 10´04"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.19
3-Cone Drill 6.92
Strengths Clayton is a solid athlete with a quick first step. Possesses good balance and lateral agility to make plays in space. Technically sound tackler who delivers shots and wraps effectively. Fluid player who drops smoothly and flashes the ability to react to underneath routes. Very productive in the Big-12.
Weaknesses Lacks adequate bulk and struggles to disengage from blockers. Disappears in power running schemes directed at his side. Does not have the top-end speed to be a true sideline-to-sideline player and cannot stick with running backs and tight ends in man coverage. Struggles to recognize route progressions and falls for the play-action too often.

Kenny Demens Exp. 1
Height 6005 Weight 245
40 Yrd Dash 4.82
10 Yrd Dash 1.69
Bench 26
Vertical 33 1/2
Broad 09´11"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.54
3-Cone Drill 7.34
Strengths Versatile player who starts inside but can also play either outside linebacker spot due to his athleticism and instincts. Thick in the lower body, which helps him play with leverage against the run. Plays with a low pad level and good bend, gets low to take on guards and fullbacks and hold his ground. Strong upper body, as well, to securely wrap up ballcarriers in the box. Punches and extends his arms to stay off lineman blocks, can move laterally to stand up backs in the hole. Reads his keys well to get into position to make a play. Three-down player with enough speed and physical nature to handle tight ends off the line, gives effort stay with them down the seasm to affect the receiver's vision. Moves well enough in zone to follow the quarterback's eyes and get to the ball.
Weaknesses Average height and pure straight-line speed for inside linebackers. Solid contributor, not really a big playmaker at the college level. Change of direction ability is not elite, man coverage outside the five-yard area against NFL receivers in the middle might be challenging for him. Flashes hands for the interception but hasn't had many opportunities to prove their reliability.

JoJo Dickson Exp. 1
Height 6013 Weight 245
40 Yrd Dash 4.75
10 Yrd Dash 1.59
Bench 36
Vertical 35 1/2
Broad 09´07"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.22
3-Cone Drill 7.27
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Kevin Minter Exp. 2
Height 5116 Weight 246
40 Yrd Dash 4.70
10 Yrd Dash 1.60
Bench 25
Vertical 34 1/2
Broad 09´11"
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.49
3-Cone Drill 7.39
Strengths Attacks blocks with extension and hand use. Very good feel in trash, subtle moves to weave through bodies and recognize run, gets to the ball carrier before teammates despite starting from the opposite side of the formation. not afraid to make contact with lead blocker between the tackles, keeps outside arm free to scrape off to running back. Takes very good angles and lines. Stops momentum of blockers, rolls into them with an anchor to not lose ground. Finishes off tackles very well. Fights as a blitzer, good motor, attempts to run through or get around contact. Sniffs out screens. When the play is visibly in from of him, the click and close can happen very quickly. Looks very comfortable when using hands to work through blockers. Has just enough speed to undercut blocks and make tackles for loss. Remained on the field in nickel packages.
Weaknesses Occasionally overruns misdirection and draw plays, gives up inside shoulder. Lacks desirable range in coverage because of lost ground when forced to open up hips, turn, and run. Fast enough in a straight line, but lateral speed may be a question. Despite good angles, likely won't win a foot race to the edge. Too flat footed on play action and misdirection, but at least that prohibits wasted steps. Does not show the quickness to get to screen as or soon after the ball arrives despite seeing it early on. Sees pass and reacts to it in coverage, but doesn't move any sooner.

+ Veteran Larry Foote Exp. 13

* Short scouting reports are from nfl.com so should be taken with a grain of salt.
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[ Edited by WINiner on May 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM ]
From Daryl Washington to

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Rams and Cards still don't have viable QB. Unless the Cards can get Kurt Warner out of retirement...
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Originally posted by KapToBoldin:
Rams and Cards still don't have viable QB. Unless the Cards can get Kurt Warner out of retirement...

They still wouldn't have a viable QB.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by KapToBoldin:
Rams and Cards still don't have viable QB. Unless the Cards can get Kurt Warner out of retirement...

They still wouldn't have a viable QB.

More viable at 42 years old than what they have now.
I doubt the Cards beat us (if not otherwise, not in our own house), but I do see them acing Seattle out of a wildcard, the last two Superbowl winners went through the same off-season losses/crappy drafts the Hawks have endured thus far. Seattle is still competitive, but the Cards on paper are far more talented/complete than compared to what Seattle has now, opposed to last season (which might not happen for an NFL defense for probably another decade).

Cards are a worthy #2 .500 contender for the NFC West, but on paper, even with all the problems (and not just being homer), the 49ers are gonna win the NFC West.
[ Edited by SnakePlissken on May 30, 2014 at 8:19 PM ]
Lol the plans of pownage are tougher withour D-wash
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B4 the DW fiasco, I was expecting a 3 way tie (Rams/Cards/Cawks going 9-7), but now.......
I read some comments from Tard fans and mostly they're just highly pissed at Washington, but some were crying like little b**ches that Ray Rice & Aldon Smith should immediately be getting the same suspension. Ignorant, uninformed morons.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
They are going to lose Daryl Washington, their best LB due to suspension. Karlos Dansby who played out of his mind at the other ILB spot last season is gone now. Their starting ILB's are an old as hell Larry Foote and inexperienced Kevin Minter. They caught fire late last season but there's no guarantee it will happen again. They are going to be a tough team and I don't see them winning less than 8 games but you never know what might happen in the course of a season. Cardinals fans here are psyched out beyond belief but relief tends to be their kryptonite most of the time so we'll see.

Wow! I didn't even know Larry Foote was still in the league. That guy is ancient!
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/178164-nfc-west-schedule/

Cards go 8-8
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
10 wins last season. Their defense is lights out and got better in the offseason. And their offense -- wait now -- Palmer and Fitzy are stating that they're "light years" ahead of where they were last year. Everything is clicking now for them apparently.

And you gotta respect that Bruce Arians...scary team.

Is this thread actually scared of Carson Palmer?
Really Carson PALMER?

Oh no, Palmer is light years ahead of a 22int season!
49ers are 9-1 against AZ since 2009.

Michael Crabtree OWNS Patrick Peterson.

Carson Palmer sucks.

The Cards might scare some AFC teams, but the 49ers have their number.
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