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Pete Carroll signs extension with Seahawks

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Originally posted by Maulbert:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Heh, like I **SAID** -- I didn't call him a bad *defensive* coach. He's a good coach on that side of the ball, after all he started learning how to win after being with the 49ers and Seifert during our dynasty years. As for not counting his years out of the NFL. Why shouldn't I? It means he wasn't good enough to *be* in the NFL during those years. Now, admittedly, Harbaugh has not won a superbowl yet, but he's done something no coach has done in the NFL to date. From his start as a rookie coach, he's gone to three straight NFC CG and a super bowl. I don't think Pete was able to do that in Seattle his first three years. If not for Russell Wilson developing into an outstanding QB, Pete would still be hovering around .500 - with Wilson he's now hovering closer to .600. It remains to be seen if Cheat Carroll can maintain that standard of excellence and go to his *2nd* NFC CG. Harbaugh is already aiming for his 4rth NFC CG and hopefully we can get our *6th* Lombardi this year. 4 and 6 sound *so much better* than *2* and *2*

Just because Harbaugh coaches a team with 5 championships doesn't make him a champion. He is on his way to being the next Andy Reid.

Skeet Carrol took eight years to win one.
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Originally posted by Maulbert:
Just because Harbaugh coaches a team with 5 championships doesn't make him a champion. He is on his way to being the next Andy Reid.

Just because Cheat Carroll won a super bowl last year doesn't guarantee he's going to be above .500 for the rest of his life. And so far, still no response from you on the fact that Cheat Carroll *cheated* his way to a national championship at the college level, and his team is one of the most penalized teams in terms of PED violations during his tenure with Seadderall. His reputation *taints* whatever championships he wins with doubt and uncertainty as to whether he truly won fair and square.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Just because Cheat Carroll won a super bowl last year doesn't guarantee he's going to be above .500 for the rest of his life. And so far, still no response from you on the fact that Cheat Carroll *cheated* his way to a national championship at the college level, and his team is one of the most penalized teams in terms of PED violations during his tenure with Seadderall. His reputation *taints* whatever championships he wins with doubt and uncertainty as to whether he truly won fair and square.

You ever read how he 'cheated' at USC? Reggie Bush's family took money and stayed in a rent free home. For that, the NCAA crucified them. Read all about it here: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/22/sports/la-sp-1023-miami-ncaa-20131023. I'm not a USC fan, or an apologist. But that case was the beginning of the downfall of the NCAA that we are seeing now in Illinois. The NCAA was looking to club someone as an example, and they couldn't go after the SEC. Remember Cam Newton's father asked for $200,000 for his son's services? What ever happened to that investigation? And as long as you keep referring to him as Cheat Carroll, no one is going to take your opinion as valid.
Originally posted by Maulbert:
You ever read how he 'cheated' at USC? Reggie Bush's family took money and stayed in a rent free home. For that, the NCAA crucified them. Read all about it here: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/22/sports/la-sp-1023-miami-ncaa-20131023. I'm not a USC fan, or an apologist. But that case was the beginning of the downfall of the NCAA that we are seeing now in Illinois. The NCAA was looking to club someone as an example, and they couldn't go after the SEC. Remember Cam Newton's father asked for $200,000 for his son's services? What ever happened to that investigation? And as long as you keep referring to him as Cheat Carroll, no one is going to take your opinion as valid.

I will let you in on something. We are fully aware of what was reported to have went on at USC and many of our opinions were formed about Pete Carroll long before he became the SEA coach. We saw how he tucked tail and turned pro as the heat was coming down on USC and we saw all the players he sent pro bulked up beyond belief and busted in the NFL and we saw how he led the NFL in PED usage (to his credit or should I say Kam Chancellor's they cleaned it up this past year). This is how we formed the opinion on this guy. I was calling him a cheater while he was still here in California and I wasn't at all surprised at the PED usage when he went to SEA. Now I will say that he has done a remarkable job alongside Schneider and I respect their championship but his reputation has been earned in some respects and for me it had very little to do with his time at SEA. I feel that if the house you built is crashing down as the head of household you need to be the one to stick around long enough to make certain everyone inside is safe and secure. I feel that he tucked tail and ran! Of course, this is what I feel and not what I know because I wasn't there
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Originally posted by Maulbert:
You ever read how he 'cheated' at USC? Reggie Bush's family took money and stayed in a rent free home. For that, the NCAA crucified them. Read all about it here: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/oct/22/sports/la-sp-1023-miami-ncaa-20131023. I'm not a USC fan, or an apologist. But that case was the beginning of the downfall of the NCAA that we are seeing now in Illinois. The NCAA was looking to club someone as an example, and they couldn't go after the SEC. Remember Cam Newton's father asked for $200,000 for his son's services? What ever happened to that investigation? And as long as you keep referring to him as Cheat Carroll, no one is going to take your opinion as valid.

Why is it that Cheat gets caught Cheating in college and in the NFL and when coaches like Harbaugh leave the colligate ranks, they leave behind a clean program? Carroll has to do something (or not do something) that makes him vulnerable to those investigations for those investigations to stick. Again, I'm not buying that Seadderall super bowl win just yet. I'm withholding my view until a bit more time passes before I'll start opening my mind to thinking that win was even legit fair and square. Lyle Alzado and Lance Armstrong got away with cheating for years before the authorities bore down on Lance. Alzado never was caught cheating and after 10 years out of the NFL he comes out and admits to cheating himself during the super bowl. Apparently Howie and all those guys were PEDding during superbowl 18 according to Alzado, so even the Raider super bowl win, I question if it was won fair and square. Same with the Patriots and Bellicheat. Since Spy gate they haven't won a super bowl. To me those Super bowls weren't won legitimately. I'll continue to call him Cheat Carroll because he's been proven to be a cheater in the past, and that's not an opinion. That's a fact.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Why is it that Cheat gets caught Cheating in college and in the NFL and when coaches like Harbaugh leave the colligate ranks, they leave behind a clean program? Carroll has to do something (or not do something) that makes him vulnerable to those investigations for those investigations to stick. Again, I'm not buying that Seadderall super bowl win just yet. I'm withholding my view until a bit more time passes before I'll start opening my mind to thinking that win was even legit fair and square. Lyle Alzado and Lance Armstrong got away with cheating for years before the authorities bore down on Lance. Alzado never was caught cheating and after 10 years out of the NFL he comes out and admits to cheating himself during the super bowl. Apparently Howie and all those guys were PEDding during superbowl 18 according to Alzado, so even the Raider super bowl win, I question if it was won fair and square. Same with the Patriots and Bellicheat. Since Spy gate they haven't won a super bowl. To me those Super bowls weren't won legitimately. I'll continue to call him Cheat Carroll because he's been proven to be a cheater in the past, and that's not an opinion. That's a fact.

No, you'd look for any excuse to disrespect Seattle.
Originally posted by Maulbert:
No, you'd look for any excuse to disrespect Seattle.

BTW, I was among a minority on the zone that actually rooted for SEA to win their first after they beat us simply because I pull for second place if I can't be first that way I know I ain't too far away from the top! To SEA credit they acknowledged us as number two. There were no PED busts this year so I will call the win legit even if I don't agree with the play of the secondary. But it ain't cheating if the ref don't call it!
Originally posted by Maulbert:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Why is it that Cheat gets caught Cheating in college and in the NFL and when coaches like Harbaugh leave the colligate ranks, they leave behind a clean program? Carroll has to do something (or not do something) that makes him vulnerable to those investigations for those investigations to stick. Again, I'm not buying that Seadderall super bowl win just yet. I'm withholding my view until a bit more time passes before I'll start opening my mind to thinking that win was even legit fair and square. Lyle Alzado and Lance Armstrong got away with cheating for years before the authorities bore down on Lance. Alzado never was caught cheating and after 10 years out of the NFL he comes out and admits to cheating himself during the super bowl. Apparently Howie and all those guys were PEDding during superbowl 18 according to Alzado, so even the Raider super bowl win, I question if it was won fair and square. Same with the Patriots and Bellicheat. Since Spy gate they haven't won a super bowl. To me those Super bowls weren't won legitimately. I'll continue to call him Cheat Carroll because he's been proven to be a cheater in the past, and that's not an opinion. That's a fact.

No, you'd look for any excuse to disrespect Seattle.

You don't have to look very far. It is pretty easy.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Apr 11, 2014 at 10:37 PM ]
I personally was always indifferent to Seattle, and despite the losses over the last few years, I still consider the 49ers rivals to be the Cowboys, Packers, Giants and Rams.

The "rivalry" is taking shape now after the NFCCG, but before that it was all a product of media hype, stemming from Harbaugh-Carroll and Harbaugh-Sherman.

It's not a matter of disrespect, I just don't see the Seahawks as the 49ers "biggest rival". That would sort of be like Sharks fans thinking the Sharks are the Red Wings' biggest rival.
Originally posted by tab420:
Originally posted by WINiner:


Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
Yeah you Hawks fans have a great team. Your forum kicks anybody out who says anything negative about your team; you fans literally kick wheelchair-bound fans of other teams down the stairs, laugh about it and don't even offer to help the injured fan get back up; you fans threw food at Navarro Bowman while he was getting carted off the field in the NFCCG; your team has bought off officials; your players get away with cheating... yeah, Carroll sure is the better coach - NOT! The NFCCG was lost by the 49ers due to the corrupt bribed officials, and there is video proof of that! Go back to your pantywaist forum and leave us here alone (that goes for all Hawks fans - you really are a disgusting lot)..

So If it is all controlled by corrupt bribed officials and the Niners win it all next year, what does it mean to the Niners fans? You can't have it both ways. If the Seahawks won it all this year do to a corrupt NFL that controls corrupt refs then it will be the same if Niners won it all next year. Or would it matter in that case?

It will mean that the officials finally called the games right, hence the reason we win. Duh
Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
I personally was always indifferent to Seattle, and despite the losses over the last few years, I still consider the 49ers rivals to be the Cowboys, Packers, Giants and Rams.

The "rivalry" is taking shape now after the NFCCG, but before that it was all a product of media hype, stemming from Harbaugh-Carroll and Harbaugh-Sherman.

It's not a matter of disrespect, I just don't see the Seahawks as the 49ers "biggest rival". That would sort of be like Sharks fans thinking the Sharks are the Red Wings' biggest rival.

Its always been this.

Until last year, the rivalry was a drop in the bucket to the niners and their fans. It was all media, but now it is real and i think exciting since we are THE rivalry of the 2010's so far.

Anyways trying to logic with 99% of seahawks fans is a futile effort as the history of the NFL started when Pete drafted Russell Wilson to them. I mean who could ever think that bay area pac 10 fans might already have formed opinions against rival pac 10 coaches... weird
I see a bunch of you in here have already convicted Carroll and the Seahawks of cheating so I guess it is safe to assume you believe your team is full of rapists and illegal weapon packing drunks right? I mean you have Kaepernick, Crabtree, Cox and Patton all that have been under investigation, you have two felony counts of weapons charges, and lead the league in DUI's all since Harbaugh arrived and Harbaugh has a DUI in his past as well. This isn't even mentioning felony hit and run or assault charges that could have been filed on Brooks and Culliver.

My point is simple. If your going to assume things then it should be fair across the board. Does it matter that Seattle has signed over 300 more players than any other team since Pete took over? We have went through over 1100 players since Pete took over. No other team is over 800 (NE is the closest around 800) and every other team is at half or less than Seattle in that time. Point being that the odds of someone peeing hot when the sample size is that large is highly increased as well as the odds of someone thinking they may need an edge to compete. Remember also Seattle isn't made up of 1st and 2nd rounders. Much of the team that just won the super bowl is 5th round and below. It has bolstered the belief that if you work hard you have a chance to make the roster and when you are talking about the guys that weren't seen as the elite talent by most of the world or held back for other reasons, it shouldn't be a huge surprise that some might feel it is worth the risk of using something to increase their chances. Currently there was only one of the players remaining on the super bowl team that pooped for PED's and that should also say something if you are at all interested in truth rather than just attempting to slander. You should also consider there is plenty of info available for those who might want to slander you.
Originally posted by 12thfan:
I see a bunch of you in here have already convicted Carroll and the Seahawks of cheating so I guess it is safe to assume you believe your team is full of rapists and illegal weapon packing drunks right? I mean you have Kaepernick, Crabtree, Cox and Patton all that have been under investigation, you have two felony counts of weapons charges, and lead the league in DUI's all since Harbaugh arrived and Harbaugh has a DUI in his past as well. This isn't even mentioning felony hit and run or assault charges that could have been filed on Brooks and Culliver.

My point is simple. If your going to assume things then it should be fair across the board. Does it matter that Seattle has signed over 300 more players than any other team since Pete took over? We have went through over 1100 players since Pete took over. No other team is over 800 (NE is the closest around 800) and every other team is at half or less than Seattle in that time. Point being that the odds of someone peeing hot when the sample size is that large is highly increased as well as the odds of someone thinking they may need an edge to compete. Remember also Seattle isn't made up of 1st and 2nd rounders. Much of the team that just won the super bowl is 5th round and below. It has bolstered the belief that if you work hard you have a chance to make the roster and when you are talking about the guys that weren't seen as the elite talent by most of the world or held back for other reasons, it shouldn't be a huge surprise that some might feel it is worth the risk of using something to increase their chances. Currently there was only one of the players remaining on the super bowl team that pooped for PED's and that should also say something if you are at all interested in truth rather than just attempting to slander. You should also consider there is plenty of info available for those who might want to slander you.

Example of their cluelessness right here... "convicted Carroll of cheating"? The NFL & NCAA already did that or are all those suspensions just for fun..
[ Edited by 5280High on Apr 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM ]
Originally posted by 12thfan:
I see a bunch of you in here have already convicted Carroll and the Seahawks of cheating so I guess it is safe to assume you believe your team is full of rapists and illegal weapon packing drunks right? I mean you have Kaepernick, Crabtree, Cox and Patton all that have been under investigation, you have two felony counts of weapons charges, and lead the league in DUI's all since Harbaugh arrived and Harbaugh has a DUI in his past as well. This isn't even mentioning felony hit and run or assault charges that could have been filed on Brooks and Culliver.

My point is simple. If your going to assume things then it should be fair across the board. Does it matter that Seattle has signed over 300 more players than any other team since Pete took over? We have went through over 1100 players since Pete took over. No other team is over 800 (NE is the closest around 800) and every other team is at half or less than Seattle in that time. Point being that the odds of someone peeing hot when the sample size is that large is highly increased as well as the odds of someone thinking they may need an edge to compete. Remember also Seattle isn't made up of 1st and 2nd rounders. Much of the team that just won the super bowl is 5th round and below. It has bolstered the belief that if you work hard you have a chance to make the roster and when you are talking about the guys that weren't seen as the elite talent by most of the world or held back for other reasons, it shouldn't be a huge surprise that some might feel it is worth the risk of using something to increase their chances. Currently there was only one of the players remaining on the super bowl team that pooped for PED's and that should also say something if you are at all interested in truth rather than just attempting to slander. You should also consider there is plenty of info available for those who might want to slander you.

Reel it in. And check on the board title. When I see reasoning, calm logic and a respect for players of other teams, not to mention a regard for the truth on Seahawk fan sites I will listen to one of their fans coming over here winging about our posting standards.

Meantime if you don't like it, don't come here.