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Errrthang Desean Jackson Thread

Have to at least explore the opportunity of this. We could make room by restructuring other players or restructure his deal if he wants to play for a Super Bowl contender too.
SIGN HIM
Restructure the contract, re-do Franks, Gabberts, Vernons, etc...get the cap room...
A threat EVERY TIME he touches the ball.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by valrod33:
According to the report The 49ers called the Eagles, so the 49ers obviously have some sort of plan(restructures or trading other players to the Eagles) to fit Desean under the cap. If the 49ers could make it happen id be all for it. Deep threat and dangerous PR.


Correct.

Also, the Niners get 6.6 mil more on June 1st....Carlos Rogers was designated post June 1st cut so they don't get the space till then.

Frank is still counting 6 mil on the cap and would probably be asked to take a pay cut. What I don't know is how much Jackson counts against the cap this year.

According to overthecap.com, Jackson has a cap charge of $12.75 mil in 2014, then $12 mil in 2015 and 2016. Looks like he would have to restructure or take a pay cut as well if he wanted to facilitate a trade. Unlikely given his constant complaints over his contract. The 49ers appear to have no interest in asking Gore to take a pay cut.

AB projected we'll be around $12.4 mil under the cap after Rogers officially comes off the books, and we sign our draft picks. So it would be very tough to fit Jackson under the cap as it stands right now. Would love to have him though. He's exactly the type of explosive, field-stretcher we need.

http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=DeSean%20Jackson&Position=WR&Team=Eagles

Only way I think this happens is if he's open to restructuring IF we keep Crabtree. However, it essentially blows the team up for essentially someone who would be a role player on offense unless we are considering moving into a pass preferred offense.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
According to overthecap.com, Jackson has a cap charge of $12.75 mil in 2014, then $12 mil in 2015 and 2016. Looks like he would have to restructure or take a pay cut as well if he wanted to facilitate a trade. Unlikely given his constant complaints over his contract. The 49ers appear to have no interest in asking Gore to take a pay cut.

AB projected we'll be around $12.4 mil under the cap after Rogers officially comes off the books, and we sign our draft picks. So it would be very tough to fit Jackson under the cap as it stands right now. Would love to have him though. He's exactly the type of explosive, field-stretcher we need.

http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=DeSean%20Jackson&Position=WR&Team=Eagles


Would rather just have them draft Brandin Cooks or Robert Herron if they are going that route, save the money, save a draft pick for something else.

That would be the most prudent thing to do, and I think Baalke will go that route. He just doesn't make big splashes like these. He knows he can get a player with a similar skill set in the draft, locked up cheap for 4 years. I like Jackson, but $12 mil is way too much for him, even for a proven talent.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Mar 18, 2014 at 3:13 PM ]
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Never thought of it like that but you are probably right.

Watch this stutter step get-off the line against Sherman, this is how a small receiver breaks loose against a bigger cornerback.






It all comes down to matchups, if your main opponent has a bunch of midget-sized cornerbacks, then you want bigger, more physical receivers who can flat out knock them off the line and get a step on them that way, or simply be able to go up and over them, out-muscling them and making a big catch, even in traffic. But with a guy like Richard Sherman who is 6'4", you're not out-jumping that guy generally, and muscling up against him is only going to throw the timing off on the route, you want to get a clean release off the line of scrimmage, a quick change of direction and get past him as fast as you can.


The 49ers lack that super quick guy with tremendous deep speed at receiver, the one that forces teams to keep their safeties back and results in cornerback's giving them some cushion for fear that the receiver will do exactly what Hilton did to Sherman in that above play. Hilton didn't get the ball there but if it comes his way, odds are pretty good that is going to be a touchdown.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Only way I think this happens is if he's open to restructuring IF we keep Crabtree. However, it essentially blows the team up for essentially someone who would be a role player on offense unless we are considering moving into a pass preferred offense.

Agreed. I would love to have Jackson on the team, but I think the money doesn't make sense.
f**king do it Baalke! Don't f**k this up.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by valrod33:
According to the report The 49ers called the Eagles, so the 49ers obviously have some sort of plan(restructures or trading other players to the Eagles) to fit Desean under the cap. If the 49ers could make it happen id be all for it. Deep threat and dangerous PR.


Correct.

Also, the Niners get 6.6 mil more on June 1st....Carlos Rogers was designated post June 1st cut so they don't get the space till then.

Frank is still counting 6 mil on the cap and would probably be asked to take a pay cut. What I don't know is how much Jackson counts against the cap this year.

According to overthecap.com, Jackson has a cap charge of $12.75 mil in 2014, then $12 mil in 2015 and 2016. Looks like he would have to restructure or take a pay cut as well if he wanted to facilitate a trade. Unlikely given his constant complaints over his contract. The 49ers appear to have no interest in asking Gore to take a pay cut.

AB projected we'll be around $12.4 mil under the cap after Rogers officially comes off the books, and we sign our draft picks. So it would be very tough to fit Jackson under the cap as it stands right now. Would love to have him though. He's exactly the type of explosive, field-stretcher we need.

http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=DeSean%20Jackson&Position=WR&Team=Eagles


OK, then if thats his cap charge, then I'd agree. Its not happening without a restructure.
Aint that a coincidence 49ers trades TO to Philly now DJax might go to the Niners . I'm with it as long as DJax dont start doing pushups on his front yard in front of the camera and if the niners can afford him in ways that it wont hurt our future cap then why not.
Don't get your hopes up.
Originally posted by vermonator:
Don't get your hopes up.

This. This sounds like a longshot at best but people hype it up, hype it up, make it something more than it is and then when it doesn't happen, errrrybody be like "f**king Baalke f**king sucks!!!!"



Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by vermonator:
Don't get your hopes up.

This. This sounds like a longshot at best but people hype it up, hype it up, make it something more than it is and then when it doesn't happen, errrrybody be like "f**king Baalke f**king sucks!!!!"





LOL.

True, but what else we got to talk about right now?
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Would love it, but how can we do it?
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by vermonator:
Don't get your hopes up.

This. This sounds like a longshot at best but people hype it up, hype it up, make it something more than it is and then when it doesn't happen, errrrybody be like "f**king Baalke f**king sucks!!!!"





LOL.

True, but what else we got to talk about right now?


nothing
Originally posted by fropwns:
Would love it, but how can we do it?


Well...its not actually 12 mil, its a bit over 10.

As Oscar pointed out on Twitter, the 2 is the prorated portion of his signing bonus which would accelerate against the Eagles Cap. It would still result in a 6 mil cap savings for them though.

So now you are looking at 10 mil this season and a bit less in the next few years. It would in effect be 3 years for 30.

You convert some of that first year salary into a bonus and it spreads the cap charge out over the next 3 years (so for example, make it a 6 mill bonus so contact counts 6 mil this year (4 mil salary = 2 mil for the bonus...IE 1/3) but more like 11 or 12 in the next few years (because you add 2 mill to each of those years).

Its probably too expensive, but the question remains...how much is it going to cost to resign Crab? Is he going to want north of 10 mil per? Jackson is signed for the next 3 years.

Something interesting to talk about at least.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Mar 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM ]