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Errrthang Desean Jackson Thread

Originally posted by hofer36:
in his 33 starts before chip kelly arrived in philly last year jackson had only 5 games of 100 yards or more and only 7 tds...maybe he will miss kelly's offensive innovations

He's a good player no doubt, but he had some big chunk games against lesser teams and some less than impressive games against better teams. I think his numbers will drop-off while the Eagles offense will continue to pile up obscene offensive stats this upcoming season. They added Sproles, now add someone like Brandin Cooks through the draft and they'll really scare people.
Are the Redskins run by King Blunder? They need 5-6 solid starters on defense, and they invest 10% of their payroll in a one dimensional vertical player.

I am so glad we are not them. The ghosts of Dana STubblefield and Albert Haynesworth are laughing.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are the Redskins run by King Blunder? They need 5-6 solid starters on defense, and they invest 10% of their payroll in a one dimensional vertical player.

I am so glad we are not them. The ghosts of Dana STubblefield and Albert Haynesworth are laughing.
well they just got colt to throw the ball to jackson when rg gets hurt,, and you know he will. they are still a terrible team
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are the Redskins run by King Blunder? They need 5-6 solid starters on defense, and they invest 10% of their payroll in a one dimensional vertical player.

I am so glad we are not them. The ghosts of Dana STubblefield and Albert Haynesworth are laughing.

dont forget big daddy dan wilkenson
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Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are the Redskins run by King Blunder? They need 5-6 solid starters on defense, and they invest 10% of their payroll in a one dimensional vertical player.

I am so glad we are not them. The ghosts of Dana STubblefield and Albert Haynesworth are laughing.

dont forget big daddy dan wilkenson
what about deon! he just faded away with them,, bruce smith to, a linebacker named trotter i think to! yes all those who think the niners should back up the truck for some sexy name should check the skins history
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My impression is that Jackson wants to be the undisputed #1 receiver on the team--the focus of the offense.

He might not get what he wants.

RGII will continue to be the man in Washington.
Last year, RGIII showed that he had a good-sized ego--and the unwavering support of the owner.
There is no indication that he will tolerate any of antics Jackson has displayed.


Alfred Morris will get the rock and could take some of the limelight away from Jackson.

Pierre Garcon is no slouch as a wide receiver. Helu will get some attention in the passing game.
Washington added Andre Roberts from Arizona. Santa Moss is going to get his touches.

If Jackson does not get what he wants, he has demonstrated a tendency to take his frustrations out on his teammates and the offensive coordinator. Washington has both a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator.

Jackson might end up being "hurt", and when he is hurt, he does not put forth the best of efforts.

Washington could become a three-ring circus next year.
[ Edited by buck on Apr 3, 2014 at 11:56 PM ]
Originally posted by cciowa:
well they just got colt to throw the ball to jackson when rg gets hurt,, and you know he will. they are still a terrible team

It's just strange to me. How can Colt McCoy possibly throw a ball that catches up to Jackson with that noodle arm of his?
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by cciowa:
well they just got colt to throw the ball to jackson when rg gets hurt,, and you know he will. they are still a terrible team

It's just strange to me. How can Colt McCoy possibly throw a ball that catches up to Jackson with that noodle arm of his?

you are right,, sorry,, sometimes you expect to much out of me
Boom goes the dynamite. Sounds more like Jackson was just a colossal dick that rubbed teammates and coaches the wrong way. People really wanted this guy on the 49ers?


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/



In the days following DeSean Jackson's release by the Eagles, speculation ran rampant as to the reasons why. Everything was to blame from Jackson's petulant, rambunctious sideline behavior, to his alleged gang ties, to Jackson's character, to this being Chip Kelly's fault.

But what a number of sources close to and around the team, including current and former players, as well as additional sources within the Eagles revealed was that Jackson was not very well liked by his teammates, was blatantly insubordinate, with temper tantrums cussing out Kelly several times in front of the team, pushed the NFL rookie coach the way "a child would test boundaries," and was more concerned with his rap label than he was about winning football games.

Several other sources also suggested that Jeremy Maclin may have had an issue if Jackson returned to the Eagles in 2014. He wasn't alone, if that's true.

"The fact is, [Jackson] was a 'me-guy' with an attitude problem and [Maclin] is the complete opposite, a team guy, a great character guy you go to war with," said one source. "Funny how [Jackson] has this anti-bully thing and he thought he could push [Kelly] around; he found out otherwise. His being cut had nothing to do with the gang stuff. The team knew it. Everyone knew he had 'ties.' Those were his guys. That's okay. What put him out was his selfishness. He can try and spin it all he wants how he's 'a team player.' He's not. I'll put it this way, when it came out last Friday that [Jackson] was released, more than a few guys were happy it happened. They said 'good riddance.' He had no real connection with anyone.

"Yes, you can say he was the type that could catch three TDs in a loss—everyone would be down, but you had the impression he was happy, because he got his. It was all about him. A lot of guys thought that way about him. [Kelly] came in here with a plan to get this thing right, and the one major [obstacle] standing in his way was [Jackson]. If we were going to move forward as a team, he had to go. Think about it—did anyone come right out and back him publicly? Not one."

Why didn't Andy Reid or Marty Mornhinweg, the Jets' offensive coordinator, want any part of Jackson before he signed a three-year, $24-million contract with the Redskins on Wednesday?

They apparently knew the potential headache Jackson was.

Kelly received some culpability in the opinion of some. But numerous sources confirmed that "Big Balls" Chip should have been canonized St. Chip after putting up with the instigating Jackson in 2013.

"You see little kids and how they cry and whine when they don't get their way, that was D-Jax," another source said. "I don't think [Jackson] gave [Kelly] the respect he deserved. Kelly tried to reach [Jackson] plenty of times and [Jackson] tuned him out. Then you look at team functions, when everyone is out together at charity things or social stuff. He was the one missing. It was like he was in 'D-Jax world' and we just happened to be there.

"With Reid, [Jackson] tried pushing boundaries there, too, but he looked at Reid, I think, much differently than he looked at [Kelly]. Reid came in with an NFL pedigree. He was the guy that drafted [Jackson]. He was the one that called him on draft day and laid the law down right then: [Reid] wouldn't tolerate any outside interference from anyone. Now you get this college guy [Kelly] and he's not going to tell [Jackson] what to do. [Kelly] has a vision for this team—and he is a very old-school coach in a lot of ways. But there's only so much [a coach] can take."

In 2012, under Reid, Eagles' management did reward Jackson a new five-year deal worth $48 million. He did have some minor flare ups with the law. In 2009, Jackson was pulled over by police for having illegally tinted windows and it was discovered he had marijuana in the car.

Still, Jackson stayed.

"That was all [Reid's] doing," opined someone close to the situation that asked that his name not be used. "[Reid] thought he could control [Jackson]. He could, to a degree. Kelly put up with [Jackson] behind closed doors. A lot of guys didn't like how he talked to [Kelly]. And a lot of guys just didn't like him. They thought he was too into his rap label than he was about winning games. The guy performed, there's no questioning that. But you had to keep a constant eye on him. Guys put in extra time. He didn't. It's like he never grew up."

Asked why the Eagles have been reluctant to go public with how difficult Jackson was to deal with, sources said Kelly likes to keep in-house dirt in-house.

"That's [Kelly's] way," said one source. "It pisses me off that [Kelly] comes off looking like the bad guy here. It wasn't just [Kelly] that wanted him gone. [Kelly] got a lot of feedback from guys that felt we were better off without [Jackson], too. [Kelly] is very much a player's coach. His office is open to anyone. Now [Jackson] is the Redskins' problem. We have something good going here and it's going to get better without [Jackson]. He had to go."


Seems like Chip is on dat dere Bill Walsh plan.


"Instilling the right culture almost always takes time. And inevitably there will be some who balk against your standards. But, you must have the courage to confront and even remove the dissenters from your program, even though they might be highly talented. Ultimately, you must believe that your successful culture will attract, support, and retain the right talent and people, which will help you prevail and succeed in the long run." ~Bill Walsh"
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Are the Redskins run by King Blunder? They need 5-6 solid starters on defense, and they invest 10% of their payroll in a one dimensional vertical player.

I am so glad we are not them. The ghosts of Dana STubblefield and Albert Haynesworth are laughing.

dont forget big daddy dan wilkenson
what about deon! he just faded away with them,, bruce smith to, a linebacker named trotter i think to! yes all those who think the niners should back up the truck for some sexy name should check the skins history

Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, mark carrier , deangelo hall
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, mark carrier , deangelo hall


Lavernaus Coles, Mark Brunell, Antwan Randle El, Steve Spurrier...etc.
lol
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, mark carrier , deangelo hall


Lavernaus Coles, Mark Brunell, Antwan Randle El, Steve Spurrier...etc.
ironic cuz when they draft they seem to do okay.. : rg3, sean taylor, orakpo, JUST TO NAME A FEW..
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Boom goes the dynamite. Sounds more like Jackson was just a colossal dick that rubbed teammates and coaches the wrong way. People really wanted this guy on the 49ers?


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/sources-desean-jackson-was-a-problem-for-kelly-eagles-in-locker-room/



In the days following DeSean Jackson's release by the Eagles, speculation ran rampant as to the reasons why. Everything was to blame from Jackson's petulant, rambunctious sideline behavior, to his alleged gang ties, to Jackson's character, to this being Chip Kelly's fault.

But what a number of sources close to and around the team, including current and former players, as well as additional sources within the Eagles revealed was that Jackson was not very well liked by his teammates, was blatantly insubordinate, with temper tantrums cussing out Kelly several times in front of the team, pushed the NFL rookie coach the way "a child would test boundaries," and was more concerned with his rap label than he was about winning football games.

Several other sources also suggested that Jeremy Maclin may have had an issue if Jackson returned to the Eagles in 2014. He wasn't alone, if that's true.

"The fact is, [Jackson] was a 'me-guy' with an attitude problem and [Maclin] is the complete opposite, a team guy, a great character guy you go to war with," said one source. "Funny how [Jackson] has this anti-bully thing and he thought he could push [Kelly] around; he found out otherwise. His being cut had nothing to do with the gang stuff. The team knew it. Everyone knew he had 'ties.' Those were his guys. That's okay. What put him out was his selfishness. He can try and spin it all he wants how he's 'a team player.' He's not. I'll put it this way, when it came out last Friday that [Jackson] was released, more than a few guys were happy it happened. They said 'good riddance.' He had no real connection with anyone.

"Yes, you can say he was the type that could catch three TDs in a loss—everyone would be down, but you had the impression he was happy, because he got his. It was all about him. A lot of guys thought that way about him. [Kelly] came in here with a plan to get this thing right, and the one major [obstacle] standing in his way was [Jackson]. If we were going to move forward as a team, he had to go. Think about it—did anyone come right out and back him publicly? Not one."

Why didn't Andy Reid or Marty Mornhinweg, the Jets' offensive coordinator, want any part of Jackson before he signed a three-year, $24-million contract with the Redskins on Wednesday?

They apparently knew the potential headache Jackson was.

Kelly received some culpability in the opinion of some. But numerous sources confirmed that "Big Balls" Chip should have been canonized St. Chip after putting up with the instigating Jackson in 2013.

"You see little kids and how they cry and whine when they don't get their way, that was D-Jax," another source said. "I don't think [Jackson] gave [Kelly] the respect he deserved. Kelly tried to reach [Jackson] plenty of times and [Jackson] tuned him out. Then you look at team functions, when everyone is out together at charity things or social stuff. He was the one missing. It was like he was in 'D-Jax world' and we just happened to be there.

"With Reid, [Jackson] tried pushing boundaries there, too, but he looked at Reid, I think, much differently than he looked at [Kelly]. Reid came in with an NFL pedigree. He was the guy that drafted [Jackson]. He was the one that called him on draft day and laid the law down right then: [Reid] wouldn't tolerate any outside interference from anyone. Now you get this college guy [Kelly] and he's not going to tell [Jackson] what to do. [Kelly] has a vision for this team—and he is a very old-school coach in a lot of ways. But there's only so much [a coach] can take."

In 2012, under Reid, Eagles' management did reward Jackson a new five-year deal worth $48 million. He did have some minor flare ups with the law. In 2009, Jackson was pulled over by police for having illegally tinted windows and it was discovered he had marijuana in the car.

Still, Jackson stayed.

"That was all [Reid's] doing," opined someone close to the situation that asked that his name not be used. "[Reid] thought he could control [Jackson]. He could, to a degree. Kelly put up with [Jackson] behind closed doors. A lot of guys didn't like how he talked to [Kelly]. And a lot of guys just didn't like him. They thought he was too into his rap label than he was about winning games. The guy performed, there's no questioning that. But you had to keep a constant eye on him. Guys put in extra time. He didn't. It's like he never grew up."

Asked why the Eagles have been reluctant to go public with how difficult Jackson was to deal with, sources said Kelly likes to keep in-house dirt in-house.

"That's [Kelly's] way," said one source. "It pisses me off that [Kelly] comes off looking like the bad guy here. It wasn't just [Kelly] that wanted him gone. [Kelly] got a lot of feedback from guys that felt we were better off without [Jackson], too. [Kelly] is very much a player's coach. His office is open to anyone. Now [Jackson] is the Redskins' problem. We have something good going here and it's going to get better without [Jackson]. He had to go."


LMAO. This article proves NOTHING... it's an "unamed source" who might not even be real taking shots at D-Jax. There are two sides to every book and before all of this I have never heard or seen D-Jax name brought up as being a brat, or high risk for off the field issues. He was demanding about getting a new contract but even Drew Brees was close to holding out over wanting to get paid more,so I don't se that as a chracter issue.

People can say what they want but D-Jax is a playmaker, he was before Chip and he will be after Chip. He can return punts, kickoffs and he is on of if not the best deep threat in the league not named Megatron. Should we have went after him? No. Were the Skins crazy for paying him? Not at all. D-Jax is an RG3 type of guy, paired with Garcon, Reed, and Morris that offense is dangerous. They spent money on Hatcher, brought back Orapo, Kerrigan is a dog and they still can fill the defense up some more in the draft.

With all this being said... the Eagles let one of the best deep threats in the league go for nothing. Kelly is a great offensive mind, but it takes more than that to be a great coach. On the flip side Sing was a horrible x's and o's coach but every guy on the roster respected him and he got a lot out of his guys. I heard Mike Irvin and Nate Newton say it the best... if the will of one man is so strong he can create that much havok in the lockeroom then maybe you need to look at the other 52 guys and the coaching staff. Lord knows the 90's Cowboys had some NUTJOBS but they all respected Jimmy, Jerry, and the lockeroom leaders. You can see the same thing here... everyone respects Harbaugh. Hell even in Seattle, Sherman runs his mouth and is flat out annoying, Beast Mode... is well... an Oakland Thug... but Pete keeps that s**t in check.

My money says we won't hear much from D-Jax this year, he will have a solid season but otuside of that their won't be any fireworks. I think he will torch the Eagles but still show Coach Kelly love after the game.
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
lol
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, mark carrier , deangelo hall


Lavernaus Coles, Mark Brunell, Antwan Randle El, Steve Spurrier...etc.
ironic cuz when they draft they seem to do okay.. : rg3, sean taylor, orakpo, JUST TO NAME A FEW..

Remember when they traded a whole bunch of draft picks to move up and get Jason Campbell. Lol

Snyder is notorious for trading away draft picks and signing FA