Originally posted by RedAlice:
To be honest, I see much more respect for the Niners and the game in general on the Hawk site right now than I do here. Maybe it is just that the Seahawk threads here are where it is acceptable for the Niner fans to get out all of their Hawk hatred. That is useful, no doubt.
As far as one team focusing on the other with quite unreasonable hatred, I'm gonna have to say Niners are ahead based on what I scanned today. Much more reasonable discussion between the two fan bases being hosted on the Hawk site.
Also agree that Lisa12 is a classy Seahawk fan.
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Jan 14, 2014 at 7:52 PM
- hondakillerzx
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Jan 14, 2014 at 7:54 PM
- ArizonaBlue
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Originally posted by LisaTwelve:
Thanks guys and Alice.
I try to be a good guest and really think I'm more of the typical Seahawks fan . . . at least every Hawks fan I know is more like me than those others that that are referenced (or sometime actually) here. Heck, I'm actually the only Hawks fan I know that posts on a message board ;-)
You remind me of the Seahawk fans I know in person. Is a good group of people in every way. One of them gave me a present of something w a Rams logo after we lost the game to the Hawks. It was meant both funny as in we won, and also sweet.
I know more Niner fans in person, and they have more opinions on the Rams since that is an old thing. They are good people too.
I don't know a single Az fan other than my relatives who are still in Az.
Jan 14, 2014 at 7:54 PM
- ArizonaBlue
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by RedAlice:
To be honest, I see much more respect for the Niners and the game in general on the Hawk site right now than I do here. Maybe it is just that the Seahawk threads here are where it is acceptable for the Niner fans to get out all of their Hawk hatred. That is useful, no doubt.
As far as one team focusing on the other with quite unreasonable hatred, I'm gonna have to say Niners are ahead based on what I scanned today. Much more reasonable discussion between the two fan bases being hosted on the Hawk site.
Also agree that Lisa12 is a classy Seahawk fan.
I point it out as I see the opposite claimed here constantly.
Jan 14, 2014 at 8:00 PM
- ace49ers
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Originally posted by SFL49ER:
the guy must the new to football because he doesn't know to do a situational football.
Thank you.
And yes his coach would have done the same thing . . . . along with every other head coach in the NFL. . . . these Hawks fans are making this week drag even longer!
*sigh
Jan 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM
- birdie2bogey
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Originally posted by RedAlice:
To be honest, I see much more respect for the Niners and the game in general on the Hawk site right now than I do here. Maybe it is just that the Seahawk threads here are where it is acceptable for the Niner fans to get out all of their Hawk hatred. That is useful, no doubt.
As far as one team focusing on the other with quite unreasonable hatred, I'm gonna have to say Niners are ahead based on what I scanned today. Much more reasonable discussion between the two fan bases being hosted on the Hawk site.
Also agree that Lisa12 is a classy Seahawk fan.
I remember going on ESPN and reading an article about Michael Crabtree expecting to return from injury and scrolled down to the comments and is was flooded with Seahawks fans stating that he is worthless and will be a non factor against the Seahawks. I was irritated that it was an injury update and fans of another team were talking trash. Mostly, I was surprised by the volume of Seahawk fans and the smack talk that was written.
I have been on the Seahawks.net and read a lot of what is written and I will say that this week has been less hate and more respectful banter, but the past month has been different. There is a lot of hateful things said about Harbaugh, Kaepernick, and Niner fans. I think it is even as opposed to one sided like you mention.
In my opinion, a lot of the hostility stems from the hypocrisy from both fan bases. The hatred for Harbaugh for his antics can only be matched by the hatred for Carroll and his history. The hatred over Kaepernick because of his ability is matched by the hatred for Wilson and his abilities. I do not find any of this warranted, but anyone can twist information to make someone the villain; for instance, Kaepernicking has been heavily scrutinized because he is the QB but a wideout taunting on his way to the endzone or a tailback stopping short of the goal line to taunt before scoring are generally accepted. "He is the quarterback and needs to act more professional," is a general response. Never mind the origins of Kaepernicking and the fact that his fans enjoy it, but it must be arrogance that drives him. We can be guilty of twisting information as well. Lynch fined for not talking to the media all year must mean he is arrogant or can't articulate himself. Forget that some people enjoy their privacy and there is nothing wrong with that. Both are equally guilty and to classify one fan base as classless or one classy is ridiculous in my opinion. Both are classless and if they weren't, this wouldn't be fun. Being a fan of a sports team allows adults to be immature, which is socially acceptable. I am proud to be a Niner fan and a part of the Niner nation and accept that we are inappropriate and profane at times.
Before this year, I have never considered the Seahawks as a target for my distaste. I have always considered Dallas, New York, and St. Louis as long time rivals. The emergence of Seattle and the high volume of responses from their fans against the niners on national forums has caught me off guard. Like I mentioned with the Crabtree injury report. It appeared to me that they were instigating on Niners news reports. I went to Seattle for the Week 2 game and was impressed with their dedication to their team (even if it has been short lived). I had a lot of unwarranted criticisms and plenty of profane, vulgar comments thrown my way. It was comical to me really. I was wearing a Steve Young jersey and people yelled "Young Sucks!!!" which we all know and they should know is completely false.
I have a lot of Niner fans and some Seahawk fans as friends and its been fun. My Seahawk friends do most of the talking and instigating, but that is in no way a generalization to the fan base. I do think this is the first year in a long time that they feel confident in their team and are very blunt and aggressive about showing their support. More power to them for that. I have seen this team win championships, experience the near miss, and bottom feeder days. Most of us have been thru all of this. Seahawk fans are trying to ride the high of being at the top because they haven't experienced it yet. I hope they don't this year, but whichever team wins will have definitely deserved it this year. These are the two best teams in the NFC and possibly the NFL, and whoever takes it this year will have beat the best to do so. It has been fun to watch and I can't wait for Sunday.
Jan 14, 2014 at 8:32 PM
- birdie2bogey
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Sorry for the rant
Jan 14, 2014 at 8:43 PM
- ArizonaBlue
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Originally posted by birdie2bogey:
These are the two best teams in the NFC and possibly the NFL, and whoever takes it this year will have beat the best to do so. It has been fun to watch and I can't wait for Sunday.
Nice Rant, and well-expressed.
In my opinion, whichever NFC team wins played the harder game to get to the SB than to play in it.
Jan 14, 2014 at 8:53 PM
- LisaTwelve
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Originally posted by RedAlice:Originally posted by birdie2bogey:These are the two best teams in the NFC and possibly the NFL, and whoever takes it this year will have beat the best to do so. It has been fun to watch and I can't wait for Sunday.
Nice Rant, and well-expressed.
In my opinion, whichever NFC team wins played the harder game to get to the SB than to play in it.
This. (to both)
btw ~
I only know one Niner fan (in person). He's a really nice guy but, he's also a Dodger fan so, not sure he even counts
;-)
(odd combination, no?)
[ Edited by LisaTwelve on Jan 14, 2014 at 8:55 PM ]
Jan 15, 2014 at 2:46 AM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by LisaTwelve:Originally posted by RedAlice:Originally posted by birdie2bogey:These are the two best teams in the NFC and possibly the NFL, and whoever takes it this year will have beat the best to do so. It has been fun to watch and I can't wait for Sunday.
Nice Rant, and well-expressed.
In my opinion, whichever NFC team wins played the harder game to get to the SB than to play in it.
This. (to both)
btw ~
I only know one Niner fan (in person). He's a really nice guy but, he's also a Dodger fan so, not sure he even counts
;-)
(odd combination, no?)
Youre almost at 1000 posts on a 49ers forum. Is there a reason you post here as opposed to a Seahawks site? Just wondering, I dont mean anything negative by it.
Jan 15, 2014 at 7:37 AM
- birdie2bogey
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Originally posted by LisaTwelve:
Originally posted by RedAlice:
Originally posted by birdie2bogey:
These are the two best teams in the NFC and possibly the NFL, and whoever takes it this year will have beat the best to do so. It has been fun to watch and I can't wait for Sunday.
Nice Rant, and well-expressed.
In my opinion, whichever NFC team wins played the harder game to get to the SB than to play in it.
This. (to both)
btw ~
I only know one Niner fan (in person). He's a really nice guy but, he's also a Dodger fan so, not sure he even counts
;-)
(odd combination, no?)
Probably a strange combination but i grew up a Niner fan and didnt start becoming a baseball fan until college. I went to UC San Diego and became a Padre fan.
Jan 15, 2014 at 7:45 AM
- zaghawk
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Originally posted by RedAlice:
To be honest, I see much more respect for the Niners and the game in general on the Hawk site right now than I do here. Maybe it is just that the Seahawk threads here are where it is acceptable for the Niner fans to get out all of their Hawk hatred. That is useful, no doubt.
I have to remind myself when I'm on here, that this is the Niner board. But I will say between .Net and here. there definitely feels like there is a lot more animosity and hatred towards the Seahawk fans versus the Hawk fans feelings on the Niners on .NET. In general on .NET I'll see hawk fans refer to Niner fans as Whiners and Ninnies, and refer to webzone as...webzone. That's about it.
On here I mean there was like a 20 quote long string that was nothing but people saying "f**k the seahawks". And these are also very common posts "gay ass 12thman", "seaf*gs", "Seahags", "p***y fans". etc. etc. etc. Again I understand this is the NINER webzone, but seriously it does take a lot of thick skin to read the animosity on here towards Seahawk fans while maintaining my cool and understanding where I'm at sometimes. Especially when people write about how the portrayal of the 12th Man in the Beats commercial is exactly how all of us are, because I'm one of them, and I'm a family man and peaceful man. So it's sometimes a little insulting to be thrown into a category of downright violent and unruly.
The game will be amazing. As a fan, I am nervous. The Niners are the hottest team in the playoffs, Seahawks have looked lights out on D, but lets face it the offense has cooled and if Harvin doesn't make it through the Concussion Protocol my confidence level is somewhat muted. I am glad it's at home though. Vegas has us at +3 I think. I have it at 50/50, +3 if Harvin can play.
[ Edited by zaghawk on Jan 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM ]
Jan 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM
- NeeJ49er
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even if he caught the damn ball ...it's not like he would have ran it in for a score ??? ...merely a tactic to kill the clock ...c'mon Seahawks, we're the san francisco 49ers ...we are all about class ....jaw with us and we'll jaw right back , but we let the scoreboard and our play do the talking
Jan 15, 2014 at 8:25 AM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by zaghawk:
Originally posted by RedAlice:
To be honest, I see much more respect for the Niners and the game in general on the Hawk site right now than I do here. Maybe it is just that the Seahawk threads here are where it is acceptable for the Niner fans to get out all of their Hawk hatred. That is useful, no doubt.
I have to remind myself when I'm on here, that this is the Niner board. But I will say between .Net and here. there definitely feels like there is a lot more animosity and hatred towards the Seahawk fans versus the Hawk fans feelings on the Niners on .NET. In general on .NET I'll see hawk fans refer to Niner fans as Whiners and Ninnies, and refer to webzone as...webzone. That's about it.
On here I mean there was like a 20 quote long string that was nothing but people saying "f**k the seahawks". And these are also very common posts "gay ass 12thman", "seaf*gs", "Seahags", "p***y fans". etc. etc. etc. Again I understand this is the NINER webzone, but seriously it does take a lot of thick skin to read the animosity on here towards Seahawk fans while maintaining my cool and understanding where I'm at sometimes. Especially when people write about how the portrayal of the 12th Man in the Beats commercial is exactly how all of us are, because I'm one of them, and I'm a family man and peaceful man. So it's sometimes a little insulting to be thrown into a category of downright violent and unruly.
The game will be amazing. As a fan, I am nervous. The Niners are the hottest team in the playoffs, Seahawks have looked lights out on D, but lets face it the offense has cooled and if Harvin doesn't make it through the Concussion Protocol my confidence level is somewhat muted. I am glad it's at home though. Vegas has us at +3 I think. I have it at 50/50, +3 if Harvin can play.
the hate goes both ways, i just read a thread on .nut with a niner fan posting links about kaepernicks charitable works, the first repsonse "jerry sandusky did a lot of charity work too. just sayin"
Jan 15, 2014 at 8:41 AM
- birdie2bogey
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The animosity isn't one sided for sure. If we think back before the season and how a lot of the people on this forum began to dislike the Seahawks. I feel it really began with Golden Tate wanting to give Harbaugh the Sean Lee treatment, another Seahawk (can't remember) wanting to wring his neck, and Sherman calling him unsportsmanlike. Those comments by the players left a dark, negative impact on this board toward the Seahawks. As you would expect, their fan base supported their team. This was all because of a response Harbaugh made about being above reproach. I support the Niners and have disagreed with some antics they have done at times, but I am glad none of the Niner players have made comments like the ones above. People call the Niners bullies, but I have not heard one of them disrespect a team, player, or coach in the media.
I have seen a lot of banter going back and forth and it is equal in my opinion. Hawk fans have supported their team, and I commend them for that, but the comments that some of the Hawks players have made make it hard for any Niner fan to respect them. Hawk fans should understand that sentiment at least.
I have seen a lot of banter going back and forth and it is equal in my opinion. Hawk fans have supported their team, and I commend them for that, but the comments that some of the Hawks players have made make it hard for any Niner fan to respect them. Hawk fans should understand that sentiment at least.
Jan 15, 2014 at 9:14 AM
- LisaTwelve
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Originally posted by Niners99:Youre almost at 1000 posts on a 49ers forum. Is there a reason you post here as opposed to a Seahawks site? Just wondering, I dont mean anything negative by it.
I think I registered years ago at .net but, for whatever reason, just never got into it.
I've always enjoyed getting the rival perspective (and being able to provide mine). During baseball season, I also post fairly regularly on an Angels board and a Yankees board, as I claim the Hawks as my first sports love and the M's as my true sports love (obviously, "first" is trumping "true"by a wide margin at the present time ;-) )