Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by daWest:
Well, if you wanna know my opinion, I'm like, well, hell yeah the trade should've yielded more from a 49ers standpoint, especially since we have yet to really see a return on the transaction. But that's me being needy. And also, my knack for perceiving things in retrospect. Had anyone foreseen the effect Andy Reid and Alex would've had on the Chiefs turnaround, of course they would've demanded more, and rightly so. As it stands, the 49ers front office accepted the best deal on the table. Do I hold it against them? Yes, absolutely. In 2 years under the right regime, Alex killed the majority of his critics, won the hearts of doubters, AND after receiving tutelage in SF, he finds himself in a system that suits him even better. I feel the talent evaluators in SF should've been privy to the fact that Alex would be immensely beneficial to an Andy Reid screen-oriented offense, and in turn, pried a 1st round pick out of the deal. And again, that's me, and my perfect 20/20 hindsight vision. But still...damn...we've yet to see a return on the trade minus the cap space and moves made in lieu of.
Some very good insight here.
Andy Reid proved to have better insight into the value of Alex Smith than did anyone in the 49er organization. While Harbaugh was looking for a QB who could drive the ball down the field when his power running offense wouldn't work, and didn't think Smith could do that, Andy Reid saw Alex Smith as the perfect WCO QB for a KC team that had most of the other pieces in place to be a very good team. Since Harbaugh couldn't tell the WCO from the 1930s WPA, he had no idea as to the value of what he had right on his own roster. So while Baalke should have been able to get AT LEAST a 1st round pick for Smith, because he didn't know the value of what he had, Reid got his man for less than the Chiefs would have had to give otherwise for a top 10 NFL starting QB.
As of now, Alex Smith and the Chiefs are filling Arrowhead with happy fans while 49er fans are hoping Kaepernick can accelerate his learning process to make the most of the 49er roster and win the Super Bowl this year because anything less than a Super Bowl win this year will be considered a failed season.
All of this and that.
There were a handful of KC fans spewing the "we better win it all or this trade sux" mantra, but that's being horribly dense. The players and community needed to find its way back to winning football. They needed to put the butts in the seats and give the good KC players a reason to stick around. Drafting a rookie QB and developing him as they suck for another year or two was not acceptable to the coaches, players, or most fans. You want a good starting QB that knows a lil something about winning with a flawed team? Pay to get him... and KC did. Trade will be good for both, I suspect... but for now, clearly KC is ecstatic.
Smith wanted to play for Reid, Reid had wanted Smith for some time...a match made in heaven. The niners needed cap space and didn't want a huge mess at QB if CK struggled early in the season. So my view is that the trade was fairly balanced given the vitriol spewed toward Smith by the likes of Jamie Dukes and other members of the NFL braintrust. And...Smith was still somewhat an unknown in that he had played well in the playoffs but then couldn't raise his level of play to beat the NYG. That wasn't all on him but it did raise the question...is he a championship caliber QB? I thought yes, others thought no...thus a limited market and no "elite" tag to elevate value.
His game does not look like Romo's or Cutler's, where some pundits gush because they can do incredible things sometimes...and these pundits do not understand how rare it is to find a guy who doesn't make very many mistakes under pressure.
I loved this trade because it helped the niners stock pile quality players and Smith wound up in a system and with a coach best able to utilize his type of game. NOW GET SOME RECEIVERS!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Dec 16, 2013 at 9:05 PM ]