Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Niners99:
LOL you have no idea what youre talking about. I love how im a "Smith hater" now...
I was one of the ONLY people on this board who defended Smith for the entire 8 years he was here. I literally never once badmouthed him. Through the darkest years of him being booed out of the stadium because of his horrible OL, horrible coaches, horrible WR, and injuries, I had the common sense to see WHY he wasnt having success. At some point, I think 99% of the 49ers fanbase thought Smith was a total bust and a joke. Its funny that now that hes on another team, the same old pessimistic people are now pointing at the green grass on the KC side of the fence.
Now its flipped the other direction, and people are OVER crediting Smith, and im a "hater" for being realistic and pointing out reasons why he isnt a star QB. wow...
Anyways, Smith was a very good QB. Under Harbaugh he was able to gain confidence and continuity, and we got every bit of potential out of him in 2011 and half of 2012. Now hes moved on to another team that knows how to utilize his abilities, and hes making out well with his trademark style of playing turnover free football.
Alex Smith is NOT the kind of QB that LEADS a team to a Super Bowl title. Hes the kind of QB that, when complemented by a good D and a running game, can help get you to that title. I dont understand why this is such a hard concept to agree with.
I give Smith all the credit in the world for keeping a cool head through all the years that idiotic fans talked crap about him. But for people to act like he was worth MORE than TWO second round picks, or wouldve put us in a better position to win than Colin Kaepernick, is insane.
Kap gives us a whole different dimension to the offense. Hes a weapon that can take over games, and thats exactly why Harbaugh stayed with him last year. He threw a pick 6 on his opening drive in his first ever playoff game, and then responded by destroying one of the best teams in the NFL for the rest of the game. Then he went on the road for the NFC title game and won. Then almost led one of the biggest comebacks in Super Bowl history in his 10th career start. Alex Smith is NOT capable of that.
Sorry if I hit a nerve, but you "give Smith all the credit in the world" for being what? You seem to think you know what Smith can do and can't do in the playoffs when he has played two games in the playoffs...one he led several come from behind drives--including a long run himself and an excellent pass to VD in the final minutes and seconds. The loss was a tough game that was bouncing back and forth based on field position (a Smith/Harbaugh specialty) until three incredibly bad mistakes by a young returner/receiver.
- Record since having a good coach, as opposed to incredibly incompetent coaches: 30-8-1.
- His QB rating during those three years: 90.7, 104.1, 91.0
- 2011, in a new offense, he led six game winning drives--clutch. Since then he hasn't had to come from behind...he's team has won most games.
So now you join the legion of nay-sayers who KNOW that Alex Smith is a "game manager" "limited" "so-so" "not championship caliber" "mediocre" QB who will never win the Super Bowl. Really? You suggest that I take issue with the trade when I have stated in this thread I thought it benefited both and was balanced...so why mislead by trying to lump me in with those who think the team should have received more? It suits your purposes?
As I stated in my original post, when you use absolutes it can come back to bite you as it has all those who said that Smith was a "loser" "inaccurate" "can't run" "can't hit long passes" "can't hit consistently" "can't see the field" "can't lead comebacks" and anything else he has disproved over the past three years. Don't care what kind of a Smith supporter you were, it has nothing to do with the post I take issue with here.
I was responding to your post and then voicing opinions towards everything being said in here. Not everything I said about this thread has to do with you just because you were quoted above.
All im saying is, Smith is not an elite QB. Hes a very good QB, but hes not elite. Are you doing to disagree with that? If you were given a choice of QB's to be on your team entering the playoffs, Smith would not be one of the first 10 youd select. He CAN win you a title, but he needs help. He needs a D, and he needs a running game. He isnt the kind of player that regularly goes out and throws for 300+ yards and 3 TD's when you need it. He isnt the kind of QB that can put the team on his back. If Charles got hurt, that offense would be in deep trouble.
He had a great game against the Saints in the playoffs. He isnt going to be that guy on an every week basis.
His record since 2011 is great, but you know what the common denominator has been since that point? An elite defense. If he had been playing with average defenses for the last 3 years, he would not be 30-8-1.
Anyways, im done being on the side against Alex Smith. I supported him for years here, and think hes a very good QB. I just think Colin Kaepernick was VERY clearly the right choice to be the 49ers QB, and that he will end up being one of the best QB in the NFL for years to come. I also think 2 second round picks for Alex Smith was more than enough, given the value of early draft picks now that they come much cheaper than before.