Joe and it's really not that close. I do think Peyton redefined the QB position somewhat by making the position much more cerebral (switching plays at the line, essentially being your own coordinator, etc) but "greatest ever?" I don't think so. Definitely top 5 but not greatest ever. There were quite a few guys in the 80s and 90s and even recently that put up good numbers, piled up regular season wins, and even got into the playoffs only to get consistently eliminated and/or maybe squeak one SB win out. I wouldn't consider any of them "greatest ever." Favre, Gannon, Esiason, McNair, Jake Plummer, Warren Moon, McNabb, Jim Everett (softer example), Dave Krieg, Roman Gabriel (way back), Sonny Jurgenson, JIM KELLY, Tarkenton, and............MARINO.