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LT- Johnathan Martin- bullying inside Dolphins locker room

  • Jcool
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Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Dolphins have fired longtime head athletics trainer Kevin O'Neill, per league sources. O'Neill was named in the Ted Wells report.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Dolphins have fired longtime head athletics trainer Kevin O'Neill, per league sources. O'Neill was named in the Ted Wells report.

I saw this coming. A head trainer is not someone whose value to the team can overcome a high level of douchebaggery.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 19, 2014 at 3:45 PM ]
  • Jcool
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Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Dolphins make it official that O-line coach Jim Turner also has been fired, along w head trainer Kevin O'Neill, as earlier reported
Lol dolphins. For the doom and gloom guys be glad we are not the phins.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Lol dolphins. For the doom and gloom guys be glad we are not the phins.

lol this
  • Antix
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Read through the report. Both parties f**ked up. Incognito for obvious reasons. He's a douche and an a*****e. Given that this is the third team he's been kicked off of he should be done. I can't see a team willing to risk the s**t storm that would come their way by signing him.

I judged Martin a bit harshly after reading the texts. He was very complicit in the general douchebaggery and I figured he was bring a punk by blaming Incognito for s**t he was involved in. However, it just turns out Martin is a p***y and didn't know how to stand up for himself. I have no sympathy for a grown damn man who, because he doesn't know how to defend himself, plays along with derogatory behavior he doesn't agree with. If he was a kid, OK. But at 25 years old you need to know how to stand up for yourself. I completely understand laughing things off because I've done it plenty in my life, but when somebody crosses the line you gotta do something. This is even more ironic given he plays arguably the toughest position in all of sports. If anybody had done or said any of that s**t about my sister s**t woulda been handled right then.

Overall this was a very interesting insight into behind the scenes football. Martin needs to learn to stand up for himself because I could only imagine how hard his life would be if he had a regular job with these complexes.
Originally posted by Antix
I judged Martin a bit harshly after reading the texts. He was very complicit in the general douchebaggery and I figured he was bring a punk by blaming Incognito for s**t he was involved in.
at 25 years old you need to know how to stand up for yourself. I completely understand laughing things off because I've done it plenty in my life, but when somebody crosses the line you gotta do something

Take some early psychology courses and your mind will be blown away.

There is an ideal way we "think" people should deal with situations
Then there is the typical human behavior that actually occurs

After WWII Americans thought that Nazi behavior following orders and committing genocide were alien. Milgram experiments showed it is actually normal for people to submit to authority if they could displace personal responsibility (i.e., "I was told/ordered to do it").

At our core we are social animals. We follow hierarchy...even if the "dominant" members are psychopaths

People tend to try and fit it...even if the system they are trying to fit in is stupid.
People also tend to avoid conflict. Even if someone "crosses the line"


The reason this "bullying" story is so big is because it shows human behavior in the context of an NFL locker room. Even big tough men fall into social dynamics because there are other big tough men in their social group. They can't all be the dominant/alpha personalities.

Hell there is an entire herd of cloned sheep where the SAME gdamn sheep (every member is a clone) has assumed every position in the social hierarchy.
lol @ Incognito.

The dude is going nuts. Vandalized his own Ferrari? lol wut
Originally posted by 4ML:
lol @ Incognito.

The dude is going nuts. Vandalized his own Ferrari? lol wut

Perhaps the Ferrari needed to be toughend up? Did it complain through the appropriate channels?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 4ML:
lol @ Incognito.

The dude is going nuts. Vandalized his own Ferrari? lol wut

Perhaps the Ferrari needed to be toughend up? Did it complain through the appropriate channels?

lol

The funny thing - ppl keep defending Incognito and blame Martin for being mentally weak. Incognito seems like the guy who can't handle the heat. Which is not surprising - that's typical of a bully.
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by Antix
I judged Martin a bit harshly after reading the texts. He was very complicit in the general douchebaggery and I figured he was bring a punk by blaming Incognito for s**t he was involved in.
at 25 years old you need to know how to stand up for yourself. I completely understand laughing things off because I've done it plenty in my life, but when somebody crosses the line you gotta do something

Take some early psychology courses and your mind will be blown away.

There is an ideal way we "think" people should deal with situations
Then there is the typical human behavior that actually occurs

After WWII Americans thought that Nazi behavior following orders and committing genocide were alien. Milgram experiments showed it is actually normal for people to submit to authority if they could displace personal responsibility (i.e., "I was told/ordered to do it").

At our core we are social animals. We follow hierarchy...even if the "dominant" members are psychopaths

People tend to try and fit it...even if the system they are trying to fit in is stupid.
People also tend to avoid conflict. Even if someone "crosses the line"


The reason this "bullying" story is so big is because it shows human behavior in the context of an NFL locker room. Even big tough men fall into social dynamics because there are other big tough men in their social group. They can't all be the dominant/alpha personalities.

Hell there is an entire herd of cloned sheep where the SAME gdamn sheep (every member is a clone) has assumed every position in the social hierarchy.

ya this pretty much sums it up. it's easy for people to call him a p***y or that he's soft, when they have never been in that position. just because you are 300 lbs doesn't automatically make you a bad ass.
Originally posted by 4ML:
lol @ Incognito.

The dude is going nuts. Vandalized his own Ferrari? lol wut

Yeah, he's a pretty stable person
Incognito tore up his Ferrari. He must be really struggling.
Originally posted by eonblue:
Incognito tore up his Ferrari. He must be really struggling.

He got involuntarily admitted to a psych ward on top of that, he's losing his s**t.
Dolphins might need a restraining order for this assclown. He still doesn't get that life has consequences, maybe they need to double his meds or something.


Richie Incognito recently resurfaced on Twitter, after exiting the facility he entered to address severe mental stress he was experiencing in the aftermath of the release of the Ted Wells report. And despite all the things that went wrong in Miami for Incognito, Incognito wants to return to Miami. "Returning to the Dolphins was my number one goal from the time I got suspended," Incognito told WSVN-TV on Wednesday. "I want to return to the community in Miami and resume my playing career as soon as possible," Incognito said. He confirmed that he entered a private mental-health facility to deal with the stress he was experiencing. "I was stressed," Incognito said. "I believe in post traumatic stress syndrome, and I believe in private mental health care."


I don't think there's an iota of a percentage of a smidgen of a chance that Miami takes this guy back, he's still off his rocker.