Crabtree Or Harvin

I think Crabtree is the full package as a receiver. He may not have elite speed but he has great instincts, vision, hands, route running, and blocking skills. Plus, the chemistry between him and Kap is irreplaceable. Those two can make big things happen and hopefully we can witness that for many years to come.

With that being said, Harvin is a beast as well and the qualities he brings as a receiver is a must need for our receiving core. Elite speed and playmaking ability that can stretch the field opposite of Crabtree I would not pass up on. Which I why I am a full advocate of trading for Josh Gordon or drafting Sammy Watkins, Marqise Lee, or Odell Beckham Jr.

Originally posted by NinerFan408:
that bread looks pretty common

that's a good point, I wish I knew more about bread I wouldn't know a rare bread even if I saw one, I just wanted to be cool

This is actually a good question....they are both very good receivers with potential to be great, both have frequent injury issues. Harvin is a touch more explosive, Crabtree has better hands. Both have had issues regarding attitude, but Crabtree was far longer ago....really is a tough call.

I think I go with Crabtree for one reason only, I value consist contribution over the flash at times and disappear others...boom/ bust style you get with Harvin. It's purely a personal choice and I admit that but I will take 6 catches for 80 yards and a TD that happens more weeks than not, over 2 catches for a buck 20 and a touch one week, nothing the next, 4 for 45, then 2 for 159...etc, etc..

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
This is actually a good question....they are both very good receivers with potential to be great, both have frequent injury issues. Harvin is a touch more explosive, Crabtree has better hands. Both have had issues regarding attitude, but Crabtree was far longer ago....really is a tough call.

I think I go with Crabtree for one reason only, I value consist contribution over the flash at times and disappear others...boom/ bust style you get with Harvin. It's purely a personal choice and I admit that but I will take 6 catches for 80 yards and a TD that happens more weeks than not, over 2 catches for a buck 20 and a touch one week, nothing the next, 4 for 45, then 2 for 159...etc, etc..

Harvin was pretty consistent last year with his production prior to getting injured. He was carrying my fantasy team week in and week out :)

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
The fact that this poll is almost 50/50 makes me

80/20 now :D

Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by LVJay:

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Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabz
Goniners

three stooges surrounding him, lol

crabs was in the matrix on this play

boy got skills

Harvin will be f**king injured again before playoffs, book it.

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Harvin will be f**king injured again before playoffs, book it.

let's hope the hawks just pull a dallas and get knocked out of it!

Originally posted by hawker84:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

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Haha. Crabtree says, "The Legion Of Whom?"

what's crabtrees numbers against the "legion oh whom" in the two games he's played them?

If you're curious about stats you can do some due diligence. I'll help you out on this one, though. Crabtree averages 670 catches for 2,139 yards (2,039 of those yards come after the catch) per game against Seattle's secondary.

* Wikipedia.

Edit: I should mention that 38 of those catches were made with his feet. 14 of Crabtree's foot catches resulted in two touchdowns or more.

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by hawker84:

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

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Haha. Crabtree says, "The Legion Of Whom?"

what's crabtrees numbers against the "legion oh whom" in the two games he's played them?

If you're curious about stats you can do some due diligence. I'll help you out on this one, though. Crabtree averages 670 catches for 2,139 yards (2,039 of those yards come after the catch) per game against Seattle's secondary.

* Wikipedia.

Edit: I should mention that 38 of those catches were made with his feet. 14 of Crabtree's foot catches resulted in two touchdowns or more.

Math doesn't lie

Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:

Originally posted by hawker84:
Crabtree is a very good reciever, has shown to be a clutch go to guy, but he's not a gamebreaker. to try and compare the two guys is impossible, they have totally different games, and play totally different roles.

they're both very good recievers, i personally think Harvin brings more to the table as far as playmaking abilties and moving the chains. he can do it with short crossing passes, rushing, or 20 yrd patterns. neither guys is going to burn you over the top, they're going to nickle and dime you all the way down the field. but harvin has the abitlity to take a 5 yrd pass and take it to the house, Crabtree does not... And to me that's the difference... Personally i'd love to have either one of them. Crabtree is the better pure reciever, but Harvin is the better all around athlete/football player.

Obviously you don't remember the 5 yard pass Crab turned into a 40 yard TD against NE last year.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000112531/Crabtree-38-yard-TD-catch

When it comes to moving the chains Crabtree is chief. He will own Harvin as a number 1 WR. Crabtree gets that YAC. Crabtree catches in traffic over the middle and is especially adept doing it on both intermediate and deep crossing routes. Crabtree is more physical and has better hands. And like you said Crabtree is more clutch on 3rd downs, redzone and end game. Then when you add Boldin we have 2 of them like that. Harvin is faster he is more explosive he is more versatile he is the swiss army knife but he is not worth number 1 WR money when he is no consistent threat on the outside. Crabtree is a 1 and Harvin is a gimmick. Yes I would gladly take him as a 49er and be giddy over him as well but I would take Crabtree for our offense over Harvin any day.

Disclaimer: If I were SEA, I would prefer Harvin over Crabtree because of the Russell Wilson dynamic present. Wilson excels on the play after the called play. Wilson scrambles about on broken plays making magic happen and this is where Harvin can do real damage on the scramble drills where he can get the ball with open space and .... Lookout! I think that Harvin can be worth every penny to SEA because they have Wilson at QB and because of the way that Wilson thrives off organized chaos

Originally posted by niners9ers:
Who would you rather have,
Harvin = Gamebreaker
Crabree = Possession Wr, Hands, Great Rout Runner

To me, someone like Crabtree with great hands, keep the ball moving, he does have some speed, and wears the defense down, compared with Harvin's occasional big play, is much more valuable. He establishes a constant threat that defenses has to constantly respect and forces them not to be able to do certain things. And in having great hands, he protects the qb by allowing the qb to get the ball out much faster, just my 2 cents, but to me those are things that are the most important stuff that crabtree adds to the offense.

i didnt realize there were that many seahawks fans on this board

Crabs is just more of a complete WR. If both were 100% healthy, 100% motivated, and never injured it'll still be Crabs. He just brings more to the table.

Harvin, though, eats up space quickly! He's great for fantasy when healthy!