Originally posted by Shawnsim:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Actually you did not present a reasonable argument at all. What you really said was "trust me I know what I am talking about." Forgive me for my hesitance to blindly follow. Numerous investigations have been made- all debunked. Would you deign to show us your credentials?
I presented a reasonable argument but you lacked the knowledge to provide a reasonable rebuttal instead you decided to tell me that you decided to reach higher in life. I'm sorry if you can't take what you try and dish out young fellow. You just shouldn't have gone there in the first place. We will just have to agree to disagree, this time of year I don't like to have undue conflict with anyone. Maybe you should just take some advice and spend your time a little more productively than trying to fight a war you are clearly not equipped to fight.
LOL what? He didn't present a reasonable argument at all? Did you just come to this thread? Must have. The following is a quote from Memphis..
Well I am a sound engineer and I can tell you that the 2.5k frequency feedback I heard against the Saints (especially on third downs) is not a product of human vocal chords (Typical male voice is about 80-85 Hz on the fundamental frequency, a typical female is 165-255 Hz) . I can also tell you that the covered part of the stadium over the fan seating is clearly designed to trap and channel the crowd noise onto the playing field. So like it or not Hawker, what your fans are doing at that stadium is nothing more than any other fans could do in it. Hawks fans are nothing special like they claim to be, just another fanbase in a stadium designed to artificially enhance the normal levels of crowd noise. It is an unfair artificial advantage and if it really does get up over 125 db it is a legitimate health hazard to everyone. If you go there frequently I really suggest you wear hearing protection to avoid potential permanent hearing damage. It is worth noting that the world record for loudest human scream is 128 db @ 8 ft, for every doubling of the distance from the noise source the sound pressure levels will be lowered by 6 db. So tell me again how it is possible to hit 138 db with unaided human voices? The math just doesn't add up homie.
Memphis is the one person who has actually presented a credible and reasonable argument. It's his field of expertise, so he knows what he's talking about and he has backed it up with these sound facts and statistics. Meanwhile, you and the other Seahawk fans arguments are basically 'naw aww we're just super duper loud' and 'there have been numerous investigations proving we don't pump in noise'. Yeah I'm sure the NFL is constantly monitoring that..
Those are some great arguments from Seahawk fans.. LOL
There have been accusations of different NFL teams pumping in crowd noise, such as the Chiefs, Colts, and Redskins. I'm sure the Seahawks are legit though and completely innocent of such. Pete Carroll would never advocate such a thing with his clean history of fair play. If the NFL does not have officials who monitor the PA system, do you really there are no teams that are trying to seek an extra advantage and pump in noise? And it's funny how the Seahawks can break the record one week, then the Chiefs do it shortly after, followed by the Seahawks breaking it once again right after. I'm sure the fans somehow got louder a couple weeks later.