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28 NFL Players arrested since the SB - What's wrong with the NFL?
Jun 29, 2013 at 7:21 AM
- blizzuntz
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The NFL and football in general is proabably a huge reason they haven't gotten in more trouble than we hear about.
Jun 29, 2013 at 7:40 AM
- TheRickestRick
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Another question would be... Of those arrested how many would have actually gone to college if they didn't play football?
Jun 29, 2013 at 7:56 AM
- buck
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Originally posted by Prospector:
Until that happens, pieces of absolute human trash like serial killer Aaron Hernandez are going to be the norm. Not every player will be as murderous as him of course, but brain-dead criminalized gangsters like him will be (and are) common through the league.
By no stretch of the imagination is Aaron Hernandez the norm.
I think that the vast majority of NFL players are good upstanding citizens that make positive contributions to the community.
Jun 29, 2013 at 8:17 AM
- NorthNiner
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Money doesn't improve character, it amplifies it. I heard that while watching a program about how 80% of lotto winners fail miserably and wish they never won the money.
Jun 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM
- ninerjok
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Some guy on the Colts being investigated for a gun violation. Goodelle just needs to ban everyone except for the Niners. These guys are out of control.
Jun 29, 2013 at 11:41 AM
- ninerjok
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Originally posted by ninerjok:Some guy on the Colts being investigated for a gun violation. Goodelle just needs to ban everyone except for the Niners. These guys are out of control.
Correction, arrested
Jun 29, 2013 at 1:01 PM
- GNielsen
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Originally posted by buck:
By no stretch of the imagination is Aaron Hernandez the norm.
I think that the vast majority of NFL players are good upstanding citizens that make positive contributions to the community.
Yes, let's not let the media distort perception. I originally started this because 28 arrests seems like a spike. But, please keep in mind that 28 players represents 1.65% of players on 53-man rosters.
Jun 29, 2013 at 9:29 PM
- kray28
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I don't think there's anything to be done. Some of these guys are just thugs/criminals who happened to make the football team.
Jul 3, 2013 at 4:55 AM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Here is what I said in the Hernandez thread:
Might be time for NFL to start cracking down. 3 Strikes and your banned from the league or something like that. Every offseason gets worse... loaded with dui's, spousal abuse, club incidents, performance enhancing drugs, etc. Paul Tagliabue pretty much just left the game alone and didn't suspend anybody. There are many things I don't like about Goodell but at least he's cracked down on players. Think he should take it up a notch. These guys don't realize the NFL will go on without them. They aren't as valuable as they think. If I was someone from the past who made little money and sacrificed my body to make the game what it is today I would be sick at how a lot of these players act and how much they make.
Another thing that's been brought up say you don't want to ban guys for life what if they start putting in clauses in contracts for arrests. Say a team could cut you on the spot if they wanted without any cap hit or owing you a dime. Basically their contract would be void and wiped out like you never signed them even if there are 2, 3, 4, 5+ years left... even if the contract says 20, 30, 40 mil guaranteed. If that's too harsh maybe make it so they have to be brought up on charges? If they are arrested and it turns out they drop the charges it doesn't count and you can't cut them. Another thing could be that in the contract you could put you automatically forfeit any remaining bonuses you are do throughout the remainder of your contract. Or you lose a certain percentage of your salary for that year on your first arrest.. say 25%, 2nd arrest you lose 50, 3rd 75% or something along that line. Just thinking out loud... problem is this would get complicated real fast unless you put it in the CBA as a standard procedure in singing a contract since agents and players would probably fight it real hard.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Jul 3, 2013 at 4:57 AM ]
Jul 3, 2013 at 5:47 AM
- Pillbusta
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Yes because an NFL job should be akin to holding political office. If you do anything to taint the shield you are gone. Don't leave this up to the individual ballclubs. Have a strict NFL no tolerance policy so that players know if they don't comply Lord Goodell is coming for them. It is a privilege not a right to be in the NFL and if you want the privilege you best behave accordingly
Jul 3, 2013 at 9:46 AM
- mod
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by buck:
By no stretch of the imagination is Aaron Hernandez the norm.
I think that the vast majority of NFL players are good upstanding citizens that make positive contributions to the community.
Yes, let's not let the media distort perception. I originally started this because 28 arrests seems like a spike. But, please keep in mind that 28 players represents 1.65% of players on 53-man rosters.
... its not even that high.... I'm sure many of the dudes arrested wouldnt even make the 53 man roster.
Jul 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM
- BobS
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Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:I think they are probably reflective of the general population. 28 guys is about 2%. Has one out of every 50 guys age 21-35 been arrested in the last 6 months? In the old days, you didn't have cell phones, twitter, and internet news. Word travels way faster and minor stories get coverage because there is so much space to fill.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Here is what I said in the Hernandez thread:
Might be time for NFL to start cracking down. 3 Strikes and your out or something like that. Every offseason gets worse... loaded with dui's, spousal abuse, performance enhancing drugs, etc. Paul Tagliabue pretty much just left the game alone and didn't suspend anybody. There are many things I don't like about Goodell but at least he's cracked down on players. Think he should take it up a notch. These guys don't realize the NFL will go on without them. They aren't as valuable as they think. If I was someone from the past who made little money and sacrificed my body to make the game what it is today I would be sick at how a lot of these players act and how much they make.
Another question is: Is the rate for crime in the NFL actually higher? Or is information simply more accesible nowadays/less hush-hush?
I'm curious to know if anyone keeps this type of data.
Just go back 20 years and most people got their news from TV or newspaper. Now along with those places there are infinite numbers of web sites that post news.
With less space to post news in the old days if a not so well known NFL player did something like a drunk driving or hits his wife, only his local news outlets would cover it. Now if the guy who mows the grass at the 49er offices gets a speeding ticket you get "49er employee arrested" plastered all over the internet. I think they now reflect society as per their age group, not economic group. Definitely NFL players commit more crimes than your average millionaires.
Jul 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM
- GNielsen
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Originally posted by modninerfan:
... its not even that high.... I'm sure many of the dudes arrested wouldnt even make the 53 man roster.
Good point.
Jul 3, 2013 at 8:36 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
There have been 28 NFL players arrested in the last few months since the Super Bowl. It may be up to 29 now with the arrest of this Browns player for attacking a guy outside a club. This seems pretty strange to me. What the heck is going on with the NFL?
There are 1,700 players. So 28 is around 2%. That would mean 98% of them are not in trouble. I think you are over exaggerating this problem.
Jul 3, 2013 at 9:05 PM
- Dr_Bill_Walsh
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Obama emboldens them. Thanks.