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WR Austin Collie

Originally posted by Bilal19:
If B.Y. didn't like him then, I hate him now.
I thought Lloyd was a good route runner with good speed, interesting though.
Thanks

I'm just kind of playing and you're not the first Niner fan to suggest that they sign him around here. I don't like him personally, but there is no question that he makes some spectacular catches. He really does have some amazing hands. And, he may have changed since his days when B.Y. couldn't stand him. B.Y. had a couple of problems with him - he thought he was soft and he thought he was more in to his bling than his game. But that was a long time ago. My main concern today would be that the Patriots refused to resign him even though he told them he'd sign at a discount. The word was that he was not the best presence in the locker room and on the practice field and that he was getting on Brady's nerves. If you want to be on the Patriots offense, it's probably a good idea to have Brady like you.
[ Edited by GNielsen on Jun 14, 2013 at 5:16 PM ]
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
He's erratic and a bad presence in the locker room and on the practice field according to his last team.
He will not throw a block and cannot throw a block.
He does not want to go over the middle and will not give up his body for the reception when he knows he's going to be hit.
He doesn't have any YAC to speak of - often goes down after the catch.

But, the most important reason: Bryant Young didn't like him.

Case closed.
G said nothing wrong
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by Rizvi49er:
the 2013 PJ Fleck

or the 2013 Swain

Austin Collie had 650 yards with 8 TDs in 2010 in just 9 games before he got hurt. The dude is a legit WR. Injury wise he's a liability.
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Jun 14, 2013 at 10:54 PM ]
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
For one, I said if injuries occur only then I would hope they re-sign him. And yes I'd take Moss (who has been productive while with the 9ers) over a player with multiple concussions, for the sake of him I'd hope Collie retires. And Steve Young retired due to his concussions, which IMO was a smart decision.

Collie should retire while he still has some working brain cells left. And, I hope it doesn't come to Moss. I want a couple of the Niners young guys to step up and surprise the hell out of everyone.

I do too, I'm hoping Quiton Patton, AJ Jenkins and even Kyle Williams step up this year. Moss would just be a safety valve, after all its not like he flopped last year.
Collie is a stud. Its a shame he's had such misfortune.
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I like the fact the FO is looking for more WR help...but the fact they are suggests they are not yet seeing what they hope for with the young guys. This is a big opportunity for Patton, Moore, Hall, and particularly Jenkins. Jenkins needs to step up. It would be a big disappointment if one of these guys fails to earn the #2.
Originally posted by dj43:
I like the fact the FO is looking for more WR help...but the fact they are suggests they are not yet seeing what they hope for with the young guys. This is a big opportunity for Patton, Moore, Hall, and particularly Jenkins. Jenkins needs to step up. It would be a big disappointment if one of these guys fails to earn the #2.

I wouldn't get worried yet. They didnt take a look at Collie until Carswell went down so they might just be looking for a replacement for camp.
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Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by dj43:
I like the fact the FO is looking for more WR help...but the fact they are suggests they are not yet seeing what they hope for with the young guys. This is a big opportunity for Patton, Moore, Hall, and particularly Jenkins. Jenkins needs to step up. It would be a big disappointment if one of these guys fails to earn the #2.

I wouldn't get worried yet. They didnt take a look at Collie until Carswell went down so they might just be looking for a replacement for camp.

I am worried now. I was worried last season...and the season before. WR has been a huge weak spot for years. This team has not had a single quality WR since Owens left. Crabtree was coming into his own last season but even then, without a strong #2, or other viable option, the offense stalled against top teams. The 2011 NFCC game was the beginning. NYG doubled MC and the offense stalled. Same type of thing happened in the NFCC last season and at the end of the SB. Now without Crabtree, this offense is going to be very one-dimensional if one of the young receiver does not step up. So far, apart from one nice catch by Jenkins, the reports from mini camp have not been very encouraging. We will get a much better idea in TC, but Boldin is not the threat Crabtree was and we are still without a solid #2.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by dj43:
I like the fact the FO is looking for more WR help...but the fact they are suggests they are not yet seeing what they hope for with the young guys. This is a big opportunity for Patton, Moore, Hall, and particularly Jenkins. Jenkins needs to step up. It would be a big disappointment if one of these guys fails to earn the #2.

I wouldn't get worried yet. They didnt take a look at Collie until Carswell went down so they might just be looking for a replacement for camp.

I am worried now. I was worried last season...and the season before. WR has been a huge weak spot for years. This team has not had a single quality WR since Owens left. Crabtree was coming into his own last season but even then, without a strong #2, or other viable option, the offense stalled against top teams. The 2011 NFCC game was the beginning. NYG doubled MC and the offense stalled. Same type of thing happened in the NFCC last season and at the end of the SB. Now without Crabtree, this offense is going to be very one-dimensional if one of the young receiver does not step up. So far, apart from one nice catch by Jenkins, the reports from mini camp have not been very encouraging. We will get a much better idea in TC, but Boldin is not the threat Crabtree was and we are still without a solid #2.

More than 1 catch by Jenkins and Patton has gotten good reviews.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by dj43:
I like the fact the FO is looking for more WR help...but the fact they are suggests they are not yet seeing what they hope for with the young guys. This is a big opportunity for Patton, Moore, Hall, and particularly Jenkins. Jenkins needs to step up. It would be a big disappointment if one of these guys fails to earn the #2.

I wouldn't get worried yet. They didnt take a look at Collie until Carswell went down so they might just be looking for a replacement for camp.

I am worried now. I was worried last season...and the season before. WR has been a huge weak spot for years. This team has not had a single quality WR since Owens left. Crabtree was coming into his own last season but even then, without a strong #2, or other viable option, the offense stalled against top teams. The 2011 NFCC game was the beginning. NYG doubled MC and the offense stalled. Same type of thing happened in the NFCC last season and at the end of the SB. Now without Crabtree, this offense is going to be very one-dimensional if one of the young receiver does not step up. So far, apart from one nice catch by Jenkins, the reports from mini camp have not been very encouraging. We will get a much better idea in TC, but Boldin is not the threat Crabtree was and we are still without a solid #2.

All I meant was don't read too much into us taking a look at Collie. Carswell was a WR, he went down with an injury, it makes sense we would try to replace his loss with another WR for TC. I don't think it is an indictment against our young receivers by any means but time will tell that.

To the bold, you and I must be reading completely different reports because everything I have read about AJJ this off season has been really positive.

A quote from Kap himself

Q: You spent a lot of time with Jenkins this offseason. What kind of progression have you seen from him?

KAEPERNICK: Huge. He's leaps and bounds ahead of where he was last year. We've just got to get him on the field now.

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013/06/inside-the-49ers/kaepernick-on-boldin-the-strides-weve-made-have-been-huge/

"[I] thought A.J. had his best week of football since he's been a 49er the last four days of OTAs, which was the last week of OTAs, and he continues to build on that," Harbaugh said,

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/12/a-j-jenkins-starting-to-make-an-impression-with-49ers/

This is a lot different that what was being said about him last year. I also understand that Kap and Harbs are not going to say anything negative about him but I still look at it as a good sign (gotta love the Harbs reality distortion field). Also the Matts have both had positive reviews. In fact the only negative I could fin was from Grant Cohn and Well... Cohns gonna Cohn.

Personally I'll wait to see what our receiver group looks like when we have it down 53 before I start s**ttin bricks over it.
Originally posted by niner4ever12:
finally a white receiver. gotta root for him.


Apparently you do not know what Chad Hall looks like??
I like this, Austin Collie has really good hands.
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Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by dj43:
I like the fact the FO is looking for more WR help...but the fact they are suggests they are not yet seeing what they hope for with the young guys. This is a big opportunity for Patton, Moore, Hall, and particularly Jenkins. Jenkins needs to step up. It would be a big disappointment if one of these guys fails to earn the #2.

I wouldn't get worried yet. They didnt take a look at Collie until Carswell went down so they might just be looking for a replacement for camp.

I am worried now. I was worried last season...and the season before. WR has been a huge weak spot for years. This team has not had a single quality WR since Owens left. Crabtree was coming into his own last season but even then, without a strong #2, or other viable option, the offense stalled against top teams. The 2011 NFCC game was the beginning. NYG doubled MC and the offense stalled. Same type of thing happened in the NFCC last season and at the end of the SB. Now without Crabtree, this offense is going to be very one-dimensional if one of the young receiver does not step up. So far, apart from one nice catch by Jenkins, the reports from mini camp have not been very encouraging. We will get a much better idea in TC, but Boldin is not the threat Crabtree was and we are still without a solid #2.

All I meant was don't read too much into us taking a look at Collie. Carswell was a WR, he went down with an injury, it makes sense we would try to replace his loss with another WR for TC. I don't think it is an indictment against our young receivers by any means but time will tell that.

To the bold, you and I must be reading completely different reports because everything I have read about AJJ this off season has been really positive.

A quote from Kap himself

Q: You spent a lot of time with Jenkins this offseason. What kind of progression have you seen from him?

KAEPERNICK: Huge. He's leaps and bounds ahead of where he was last year. We've just got to get him on the field now.

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/2013/06/inside-the-49ers/kaepernick-on-boldin-the-strides-weve-made-have-been-huge/

"[I] thought A.J. had his best week of football since he's been a 49er the last four days of OTAs, which was the last week of OTAs, and he continues to build on that," Harbaugh said,

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/12/a-j-jenkins-starting-to-make-an-impression-with-49ers/

This is a lot different that what was being said about him last year. I also understand that Kap and Harbs are not going to say anything negative about him but I still look at it as a good sign (gotta love the Harbs reality distortion field). Also the Matts have both had positive reviews. In fact the only negative I could fin was from Grant Cohn and Well... Cohns gonna Cohn.

Personally I'll wait to see what our receiver group looks like when we have it down 53 before I start s**ttin bricks over it.

I will not be satisfied until the regular season starts and one or more of these young WRs step up and start making plays. Until then, the most impressive pass catcher has been Vance McDonald. If he can continue to make plays from the traditional TE packages, that will be a big help to the possession side of the game. In the meantime, I will take what Kaep and Harbaugh say about Jenkins with a grain of salt. It means nothing. They have a tremendous investment in him and will do whatever necessary to make that pay off, including giving praise that may not be earned. Just my thoughts... Go Niners.
Could you see vance being a 3rd down possession receiver. He blasts off the LOS and catches one over the middle, just past 1st down marker, and sits down. A little bit like a BIG Wes Welker. I could see that. He also has the size and hands to be an Anquan Boldin 3rd down jumpball pass receiver. It will be interesting to see if JH tries him with that.
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Could you see vance being a 3rd down possession receiver. He blasts off the LOS and catches one over the middle, just past 1st down marker, and sits down. A little bit like a BIG Wes Welker. I could see that. He also has the size and hands to be an Anquan Boldin 3rd down jumpball pass receiver. It will be interesting to see if JH tries him with that.

I would hope he would be more than just a 3rd down specialist. This offense needs a TE that can read see the blitz and make a quick move into the area vacated by the blitzer and catch the quick release from the QB before he gets plowed by the rusher. We have not had a TE like that since Eric Johnson left. Vernon Davis is a great deep threat but has never shown the ability to counter the blitz. Also, Davis does not have the agility to twist and make a move to shield the ball away from a defender or to adjust to a less-than-perfect pass. McDonald has been complimented on that ability on multiple occasions by just about all the media that covers the 49ers. Hence, I could see him getting PT on a lot of 2 TE packages, especially against teams that blitz a lot.
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