Originally posted by hawker84:
Doesn't the League monitor every team?
out of all the ped's bust on this team, only one starter was suspended, coulda/shoulda been two.
Brandon Browner - missed 4 games, we still managed win all four games he missed
Richard Sherman - overturned ( that would've hurt)
John Moffit - back up - probably doesn't make the team this year anyways
Winston guy - 3rd string safety
Brian Maxwell - 3rd string corner
Bruce Irvin - back up, situational DE
So it's not like our starters are the ones getting busted for this stupidity, So to say we're going to become an 8-8 team again because the league is going to crack down on us is crazy.. the situation is not good make no bones about that.. but it's not quite the disaster as some seem to think it is...
Agreed hawker84. And thanks to Lisa12 for the Holmgren article as well...you two aren't sugar-coating anything (or justifying it b/c it's your team). I'm sure, more than anything, you are embarrassed as it reflects your fan base. While I don't envision any of these suspensions truly hurting your teams performance on the field, my issue remains mostly with the NFL in these matters...for this very reason!
We all know the history of Pete and his "father figure" approach to this and deluding the issue beyond his own locker room. Beyond that, when you have a clear culture of PED use (if it's even this "minor") and a drug that dissipates after just a week, why is the NFL not regularly targeting an entire team on a weekly basis? Why are the SeaHawks themselves not instituting an internal drug screening process when there is a clear culture of drug use. Why? B/c the punishment does not fit the crime. For a team leading the NFL in PED offenses, not a single incident has "hurt the team."
Both Sherman and Browner were busted at the same time late in the season (when it mattered) but Sherman appealed his allowing them only to lose one CB and then he won the appeal on a technicality just in time for the playoffs. If your top two defenders are caught, why weren't all players tested at this time? Instead, Irvin is tested in the off season but given the Hawks acquired Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett in FA, perhaps it's fair to conclude they knew about this a while ago...maybe even later last season?
So again, there was no harm to the team in any fashion for 3 of their top defensive players. And is there really a risk for players save for a blip on the NFL Network ticker and a 4 game suspension at most? It's worth it if you're roided up and gained 20 pounds of muscle and have already acquired the accolades to go along with it.
Now we'll see what the NFL does...will they fine the team as they should (does that REALLY hurt the team)? Test all players on a weekly basis for a full season? My guess is they'll do nothing and we'll forget about this all after the 4th game of the season.
I'll concede I do not know if the collective bargaining agreement prohibits the NFL from regular testing upon suspicion (even if a culture exists with one team and there are other reasons of suspicion e.g. Pete's history) so I will plead ignorance in this case b/c this is a topic nobody is talking about...I haven't seen any details. We know this is a huge ordeal outside of the NFL (Armstrong, Congress, Olympics, etc.) but with the NFL it still seems more "hush, hush."
[ Edited by NCommand on May 21, 2013 at 9:52 AM ]