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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by AmpLee
But I'm not going to lump them into an elite category

who would really ask you to? has anyone been saying they are elite?

I believe most major media outlets have them atop their power rankings. My point is that I believe they are overrated.

No "you are what your record says you are?"

I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

If Seattle is a super bowl contender then KC def is. Better defense, coach, special teams, offense is a push at best but seeing as how Alex hardly turns it over and Russ is prone to cough it up 2-3 times against a touch D, I would say KC is more efficient on offense. I'm being totally unbiased here, not a Chiefs or Alex fan. Just speaking the real. I'm a fan of football period, and call it how I see it. I give Seattle their props for the most part but with the current client of the division that's kind of hard to do. lol.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Alex needs to work on his accuracy...that one needed to be stuck in his visor.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
They're having some line issues and some drop issues...and honestly Alex hasn't been as good as he was last year.

On the other hand, it's a new playbook, new player chemistry and they have more time to get it straight. As it stands, the offense is about average statistically in the NFL. They don't need to get much better to have a chance...and they've demonstrated that.

Seriously dude....
The Chiefs didn't look good on offense today, but the receivers didn't do much to help out Alex. McCluster dropped a perfectly thrown corner route and he was wide open. Bowe had a drop also. But, their defense bailed out the offense, sounds eerily familiar. If they split with Denver, they'll probably win the AFC West and have the 1 seed in the AFC, barring a miraculous collapse on their part. If they get a wildcard bye, they stand a good chance of being the AFC rep in the Super Bowl. While their offense needs to get better, their defense is playing at a very high level and keeping games close for them to win.
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Alex needs to work on his accuracy...that one needed to be stuck in his visor.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
They're having some line issues and some drop issues...and honestly Alex hasn't been as good as he was last year.

On the other hand, it's a new playbook, new player chemistry and they have more time to get it straight. As it stands, the offense is about average statistically in the NFL. They don't need to get much better to have a chance...and they've demonstrated that.

Seriously dude....

Why are you in this thread again?
Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
The Chiefs didn't look good on offense today, but the receivers didn't do much to help out Alex. McCluster dropped a perfectly thrown corner route and he was wide open. Bowe had a drop also. But, their defense bailed out the offense, sounds eerily familiar. If they split with Denver, they'll probably win the AFC West and have the 1 seed in the AFC, barring a miraculous collapse on their part. If they get a wildcard bye, they stand a good chance of being the AFC rep in the Super Bowl. While their offense needs to get better, their defense is playing at a very high level and keeping games close for them to win.

They scraped out a win against the Bills with a noodle-armed UDFA rookie QB making his first ever start. The Bills gashed them on the ground and visibly outplayed them. Nothing eerily similar about it, imo. I've always been a supporter of Alex, but they are not a Superbowl contender. When they play a team who is better than halfway decent and beat them, then we can possibly talk about the Chiefs in the same breath as the upper-echelon teams.
[ Edited by AmpLee on Nov 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM ]
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

Take a look at the SOS of the Miami Dolphins in 72. It is amazing....

Originally posted by AmpLee:
lol, yes you're right, I lost track. But that's largely because I found the link irrelevant. We played good teams in 2011. Remember when we beat the Saints in the playoffs, and lost to the Ravens on the road, or lost to the Giants in the NFCCG?

The season isn't over for them, but the one good team they played, they beat. They have beaten a lot of crappy teams and some average teams. Hard to make those comparisons at this point..but what I can say is the SOS in 2011 for the niners isn't much different than what the Chiefs are playing now. So I don't know how you think it is irrelevant.
Originally posted by 24plus25er:
Let's be real here, anyone rooting for the Chiefs to lose so we can get a better 2nd round pick is using that as an excuse. Just admit you want to see Alex lose. We all know good and well the difference between the 21st pick in the second and the 30th is irrelevant. With our teams track record that pick might not even touch the field next season, especially if we are healthy. NOW to be honest, the Chiefs could very well win that division. Old man Fox is prob going to miss the rest of the regular season with the heart issue. Manning's body is already breaking down, they have oline and the defense is giving up points by the truck load. We got our second, so I'm happy. If Alex goes undefeated so what, if they lose the next seven... so what. Let's move on...

That's complete and utter b******t. I have always been an outward supporter of Alex Smith and I know many others who wanted the Chiefs to be 8-8 were also Smith supporters. Sure there are Alex bashers who want him to lose, but to put everyone in that boat is ridiculous and completely fabricated out of laziness, denial, and/or ignorance. And the difference between mid-2nd pick and end of 2nd is not irrelevant. It is quite relevant and can be the difference in getting your guy or settling for a different guy. C'mon man. Add to that the needs we're going to have with guys leaving because we can't afford them. Long-term success is completely contingent on having cheap young players producing at a high level. Because when contracts come up for guys like Kaep, Crabs, Iupati, etc. we're not going to afford to keep the mid-range guys around.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

Take a look at the SOS of the Miami Dolphins in 72. It is amazing....

Originally posted by AmpLee:
lol, yes you're right, I lost track. But that's largely because I found the link irrelevant. We played good teams in 2011. Remember when we beat the Saints in the playoffs, and lost to the Ravens on the road, or lost to the Giants in the NFCCG?

The season isn't over for them, but the one good team they played, they beat. They have beaten a lot of crappy teams and some average teams. Hard to make those comparisons at this point..but what I can say is the SOS in 2011 for the niners isn't much different than what the Chiefs are playing now. So I don't know how you think it is irrelevant.

I don't need to check out the '72 Dolphins SOS. They played and beat good teams in the playoffs. As did the '11 Niners. The Chiefs have yet to beat, let alone play a good team. Please point out the one team you are referring to because I only see average and below average teams (lol if referring to Cowboys). Bottom line is they squeaked out a win against a really bad team that outplayed them today. Color me unconvinced.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

Their schedule will be quite difficult from here on and that will tell the tale. If they win most of their games they'll be in the playoffs, if they lose them all they won't. I wouldn't bet against their chances at this point. But will enjoy watching both the 9ers and the Chiefs. And for crying out loud...can someone beat the *9&(^! Seahawks when they have a huge lead?
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Alex needs to work on his accuracy...that one needed to be stuck in his visor.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
They're having some line issues and some drop issues...and honestly Alex hasn't been as good as he was last year.

On the other hand, it's a new playbook, new player chemistry and they have more time to get it straight. As it stands, the offense is about average statistically in the NFL. They don't need to get much better to have a chance...and they've demonstrated that.

Seriously dude....

Why are you in this thread again?

He's been trying to get banned but can't seem to hit the right note!
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

Their schedule will be quite difficult from here on and that will tell the tale. If they win most of their games they'll be in the playoffs, if they lose them all they won't. I wouldn't bet against their chances at this point. But will enjoy watching both the 9ers and the Chiefs. And for crying out loud...can someone beat the *9&(^! Seahawks when they have a huge lead?

Yes, we will definitely know more about them as the season progresses. I think they're a shoe-in for the playoffs, but based off what I've seen, they are one and done. If they keep winning the games they should have no less than 4 losses, however, which is quite an accomplishment and a great foundation to improve upon for year two under Alex and Reid.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Their schedule will be quite difficult from here on and that will tell the tale. If they win most of their games they'll be in the playoffs, if they lose them all they won't. I wouldn't bet against their chances at this point. But will enjoy watching both the 9ers and the Chiefs. And for crying out loud...can someone beat the *9&(^! Seahawks when they have a huge lead?

They are going to really use these next 2 weeks to get some major issues worked out... mainly from the OL. Better work on the chemistry between QB and receivers also.

Great time for them to have a bye week.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

Take a look at the SOS of the Miami Dolphins in 72. It is amazing....

Originally posted by AmpLee:
lol, yes you're right, I lost track. But that's largely because I found the link irrelevant. We played good teams in 2011. Remember when we beat the Saints in the playoffs, and lost to the Ravens on the road, or lost to the Giants in the NFCCG?

The season isn't over for them, but the one good team they played, they beat. They have beaten a lot of crappy teams and some average teams. Hard to make those comparisons at this point..but what I can say is the SOS in 2011 for the niners isn't much different than what the Chiefs are playing now. So I don't know how you think it is irrelevant.

I don't need to check out the '72 Dolphins SOS. They played and beat good teams in the playoffs. As did the '11 Niners. The Chiefs have yet to beat, let alone play a good team. Please point out the one team you are referring to because I only see average and below average teams (lol if referring to Cowboys). Bottom line is they squeaked out a win against a really bad team that outplayed them today. Color me unconvinced.

I guess the conversation is worthless, because we're not in the play-offs yet. All the teams you point out were play-off teams with one exception..and the niners lost that game as I recall.... doesn't mean much if you play good teams and lose.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Their schedule will be quite difficult from here on and that will tell the tale. If they win most of their games they'll be in the playoffs, if they lose them all they won't. I wouldn't bet against their chances at this point. But will enjoy watching both the 9ers and the Chiefs. And for crying out loud...can someone beat the *9&(^! Seahawks when they have a huge lead?

They are going to really use these next 2 weeks to get some major issues worked out... mainly from the OL. Better work on the chemistry between QB and receivers also.

Great time for them to have a bye week.

gonna need it against Denver in Denver.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.

Take a look at the SOS of the Miami Dolphins in 72. It is amazing....

Originally posted by AmpLee:
lol, yes you're right, I lost track. But that's largely because I found the link irrelevant. We played good teams in 2011. Remember when we beat the Saints in the playoffs, and lost to the Ravens on the road, or lost to the Giants in the NFCCG?

The season isn't over for them, but the one good team they played, they beat. They have beaten a lot of crappy teams and some average teams. Hard to make those comparisons at this point..but what I can say is the SOS in 2011 for the niners isn't much different than what the Chiefs are playing now. So I don't know how you think it is irrelevant.

I don't need to check out the '72 Dolphins SOS. They played and beat good teams in the playoffs. As did the '11 Niners. The Chiefs have yet to beat, let alone play a good team. Please point out the one team you are referring to because I only see average and below average teams (lol if referring to Cowboys). Bottom line is they squeaked out a win against a really bad team that outplayed them today. Color me unconvinced.

I guess the conversation is worthless, because we're not in the play-offs yet. All the teams you point out were play-off teams with one exception..and the niners lost that game as I recall.... doesn't mean much if you play good teams and lose.

The conversation isn't worthless, it's your argument that's worthless. My argument is that the Chiefs are overrated and not as good as a 9-0 team would suggest. I believe this because A) they haven't played a single good team, and B) many of their wins against poor teams have been very unconvincing (today for example). Further, comparing them to the '72 Dolphins or '11 Niners is futile because those teams actually beat good teams in the playoffs and have a body of work to judge their quality retrospectively. Also, I believe the '11 Niners had far more of a complete team than these Chiefs. And lastly, our current Niners would kick the s**t out of the Chiefs had we had the fortune of playing them in the present.