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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Some, not all, of the guys saying they want the Chiefs to lose all but 8 games are the old anti-Smith group. They are posting to get a rise out of pro-Smith fans and boy have they succeeded!

But the mods should try and refrain from personal comments...or maybe take off your mod hat and invent a new character to post by. Many of you are very reasonable in other threads but things have gone off the rails in this one.

FWIW, I always supported Smith. Stop trying to lump people into divisive groups.

This. I support smith and have been accused of being a pro-smith mod. The whole point started from people saying guys were wrong for wanting the pick and not caring about the chiefs success. There is always two sides to every argument. Some people just can't see that.

The point that people forget is that not all humans remain attached to people, stories, etc. for some, when Alex left they detached their-self from the story. So the pick is more important. (Would you take a 57th or a 69th?) for some, they root for the chiefs to lose because of Alex, and use the pick as a crutch. (That's a sad life). For others, they generally don't see a problem with a later pick given the enjoyment of the chiefs and Alex's success. For some, they are so conflicted with the way the QB change was handled, they are taking it out on the niners and Kap. (Most won't admit that.)

I lie in the middle. I want Alex to have a great year, which I believe it is, regardless of what some think. I also want to preserve the best pick because I know we need it. (Paying big players, FAs, etc). If the pick was not attached and the niners didnt win the Super Bowl, I would absolutely cheer for Alex to win it. He was a class act.

good post
Nice article on the Chiefs. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000267460/article/kansas-city-chiefs-cant-be-ignored-as-last-undefeated-nfl-team
I just finished watching the KC/Houston game. I was somewhat surprised by what I saw. From what some posters here had said, and what some national writers wrote, I expected Alex Smith to look pretty much like junk. He was far from it. Other than the one throw down on the goal line where he threw McGrath out of bounds, he played a very good game. The one pick was clearly the result of McCluster stopping on his route. In the meantime, he had some good throws and a couple of great throws. In addition, he was adjusting run plays to good advantage. He also had the protection right 90% of the time. He was also a total of about 2 feet from having to TD throws. I still think Fasano was across the goal line but the replay was "inconclusive." Good management by Alex.

Houston, though now 2-5, is still a formidable defensive team, or at least it was until Cushing went down. KC dominated in the game. The Kansas City OL had their best game of the season, and they did it against JJ Watt and Friends. That line is the youngest group in the league and held its own against the Texans. Jeff Allen is now healthy and playing well at RG. Fisher still has room to improve but is much better than he was at the beginning of the season. Though he often had help against Watt, there were several times where he won a stalemate with Watt. Asomoah is a banger and left a few welts on some Houston boys. Hudson is just average as a blocker but adjusted protections very well. Overall a good offensive effort even though the score board does not tell the true story.

I love their defense. Poe anchors a front 7 that I believe is as good overall as the 49ers, if not better. Poe is the best NT in the league, and it isn't close. No other NT gets the penetration he does while not getting forced out of the hole. He frees up all the other guys to make plays. Their sack totals are terrific and I loved the overload blitz packages that Sutton turned lose toward the end of the game when Houston desperately needed to throw the ball. I hope Fangio was watching. I don't have to tell anyone here that the 49ers are struggling to put pressure on the QB.

I am looking forward to the Denver game. Denver's defense is nothing special. I could easily see the Chiefs going into Denver and getting a win. Manning is vulnerable when he starts getting hit, and KC's linebackers are going to hit him...a lot.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
KC 1st round pick for Frank Gore

The Niners will never trade the "mystical man."

Pretty sure that KC is happy with JC.

praise the lord
one of the great things about kcs turnaround is not only redemption for alex smith and andy reid, but also the team, and perhaps the city itself, coming back from the terrible tragedy where jovan belcher killed his girlfriend and then hmself at the team facility--i have to think that was traumatic for the other players and members of the organization but their success has erased alot of those bad memories
Superbowl XLIX
49ers vs Chiefs
Originally posted by dj43:
I just finished watching the KC/Houston game. I was somewhat surprised by what I saw. From what some posters here had said, and what some national writers wrote, I expected Alex Smith to look pretty much like junk. He was far from it. Other than the one throw down on the goal line where he threw McGrath out of bounds, he played a very good game. The one pick was clearly the result of McCluster stopping on his route. In the meantime, he had some good throws and a couple of great throws. In addition, he was adjusting run plays to good advantage. He also had the protection right 90% of the time. He was also a total of about 2 feet from having to TD throws. I still think Fasano was across the goal line but the replay was "inconclusive." Good management by Alex.

Houston, though now 2-5, is still a formidable defensive team, or at least it was until Cushing went down. KC dominated in the game. The Kansas City OL had their best game of the season, and they did it against JJ Watt and Friends. That line is the youngest group in the league and held its own against the Texans. Jeff Allen is now healthy and playing well at RG. Fisher still has room to improve but is much better than he was at the beginning of the season. Though he often had help against Watt, there were several times where he won a stalemate with Watt. Asomoah is a banger and left a few welts on some Houston boys. Hudson is just average as a blocker but adjusted protections very well. Overall a good offensive effort even though the score board does not tell the true story.

I love their defense. Poe anchors a front 7 that I believe is as good overall as the 49ers, if not better. Poe is the best NT in the league, and it isn't close. No other NT gets the penetration he does while not getting forced out of the hole. He frees up all the other guys to make plays. Their sack totals are terrific and I loved the overload blitz packages that Sutton turned lose toward the end of the game when Houston desperately needed to throw the ball. I hope Fangio was watching. I don't have to tell anyone here that the 49ers are struggling to put pressure on the QB.

I am looking forward to the Denver game. Denver's defense is nothing special. I could easily see the Chiefs going into Denver and getting a win. Manning is vulnerable when he starts getting hit, and KC's linebackers are going to hit him...a lot.

I agree that Alex was better than the stats indicate. That McGrath endzone pass AND the deep sideline pass to JC was frustrating.

Just wanted to note.. Jeff Allen does look healthier now, but plays LG.. not RG. He was pretty bad throughout most of their games so far. I am watching this game again, and he does seem to be doing somewhat better. I still don't trust him, and think he is the 2nd worst OL behind Fisher at RT.. who also seems a little better lately.

The 6+ minute drive at the end of quarter 2... when down 10-7... now that was cool. Sometimes, I do think Reid is toying with the opponents... pulling out "the real" offense when they need it.. but experimenting when they don't. Either way, this offense seems to handle their business when they most need to. Having Fasano back should and already is beneficial.

I can see the Chiefs losing 4 or even 5 games down this stretch. They have surprised me so far, so maybe that 4 or 5 turns into 2.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by dj43:
I just finished watching the KC/Houston game. I was somewhat surprised by what I saw. From what some posters here had said, and what some national writers wrote, I expected Alex Smith to look pretty much like junk. He was far from it. Other than the one throw down on the goal line where he threw McGrath out of bounds, he played a very good game. The one pick was clearly the result of McCluster stopping on his route. In the meantime, he had some good throws and a couple of great throws. In addition, he was adjusting run plays to good advantage. He also had the protection right 90% of the time. He was also a total of about 2 feet from having to TD throws. I still think Fasano was across the goal line but the replay was "inconclusive." Good management by Alex.

Houston, though now 2-5, is still a formidable defensive team, or at least it was until Cushing went down. KC dominated in the game. The Kansas City OL had their best game of the season, and they did it against JJ Watt and Friends. That line is the youngest group in the league and held its own against the Texans. Jeff Allen is now healthy and playing well at RG. Fisher still has room to improve but is much better than he was at the beginning of the season. Though he often had help against Watt, there were several times where he won a stalemate with Watt. Asomoah is a banger and left a few welts on some Houston boys. Hudson is just average as a blocker but adjusted protections very well. Overall a good offensive effort even though the score board does not tell the true story.

I love their defense. Poe anchors a front 7 that I believe is as good overall as the 49ers, if not better. Poe is the best NT in the league, and it isn't close. No other NT gets the penetration he does while not getting forced out of the hole. He frees up all the other guys to make plays. Their sack totals are terrific and I loved the overload blitz packages that Sutton turned lose toward the end of the game when Houston desperately needed to throw the ball. I hope Fangio was watching. I don't have to tell anyone here that the 49ers are struggling to put pressure on the QB.

I am looking forward to the Denver game. Denver's defense is nothing special. I could easily see the Chiefs going into Denver and getting a win. Manning is vulnerable when he starts getting hit, and KC's linebackers are going to hit him...a lot.

I agree that Alex was better than the stats indicate. That McGrath endzone pass AND the deep sideline pass to JC was frustrating.

Just wanted to note.. Jeff Allen does look healthier now, but plays LG.. not RG. He was pretty bad throughout most of their games so far. I am watching this game again, and he does seem to be doing somewhat better. I still don't trust him, and think he is the 2nd worst OL behind Fisher at RT.. who also seems a little better lately.

The 6+ minute drive at the end of quarter 2... when down 10-7... now that was cool. Sometimes, I do think Reid is toying with the opponents... pulling out "the real" offense when they need it.. but experimenting when they don't. Either way, this offense seems to handle their business when they most need to. Having Fasano back should and already is beneficial.

I can see the Chiefs losing 4 or even 5 games down this stretch. They have surprised me so far, so maybe that 4 or 5 turns into 2.

Seems the Chief's line is where the niners were when JH took over--young with a tendency to make mistakes. As the year progresses I think they will progress and perhaps by the playoffs will be a very good/decent OLine! The 9ers had a RT who was young and exasperating at times...now he's much better. Their LG was also young and made his share of mistakes. But now they are considered the best run blocking line in football. My hope is that the KC line improves in pass protection more than the 9ers line has...and/or faster.

Having Poe in the middle is such a great plus. It's as if J Smith could be a NT at his all pro level...then they have very good players beside him. Wish the niners had that super strong NT core...but that is getting greedy as they have likely the best LB core in the game and among the top DLines as well.
Is this the easiest schedule in the NFL? One team has a winning record and that was the Cowboys.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Seems the Chief's line is where the niners were when JH took over--young with a tendency to make mistakes. As the year progresses I think they will progress and perhaps by the playoffs will be a very good/decent OLine! The 9ers had a RT who was young and exasperating at times...now he's much better. Their LG was also young and made his share of mistakes. But now they are considered the best run blocking line in football. My hope is that the KC line improves in pass protection more than the 9ers line has...and/or faster.

Having Poe in the middle is such a great plus. It's as if J Smith could be a NT at his all pro level...then they have very good players beside him. Wish the niners had that super strong NT core...but that is getting greedy as they have likely the best LB core in the game and among the top DLines as well.

Yeah, Poe is truly special. I think the world of Justin, but no way would I want him to endure the NT role at this point. I have been pleased enough with Dorsey anyway. Dobbs has appeared to have regressed, and if that doesn't change quickly, he is gone... not that he was an integral contributor anyway. RayMac has been solid enough, but not having his usual kickarse year. Can't wait to see Carradine in action someday soon.

Off that topic: I am currently in a GM mock draft as the KC GM... and YES, the 49ers were already taken! and for my 1st rd pick, I selected LG Gabe Jackson from Miss State. Can't trust Allen to improve enough just yet, and besides, dude is a complete stud for what they need. Next pick will be a WR... thinking LSU's Beckam, Landry, OSU's Brandin Cooks, or Ole Miss' Donte Moncrief.
This site is acting odd with loading and what not... not the first morning it's been like this.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Yeah, Poe is truly special. I think the world of Justin, but no way would I want him to endure the NT role at this point. I have been pleased enough with Dorsey anyway. Dobbs has appeared to have regressed, and if that doesn't change quickly, he is gone... not that he was an integral contributor anyway. RayMac has been solid enough, but not having his usual kickarse year. Can't wait to see Carradine in action someday soon.

Off that topic: I am currently in a GM mock draft as the KC GM... and YES, the 49ers were already taken! and for my 1st rd pick, I selected LG Gabe Jackson from Miss State. Can't trust Allen to improve enough just yet, and besides, dude is a complete stud for what they need. Next pick will be a WR... thinking LSU's Beckam, Landry, OSU's Brandin Cooks, or Ole Miss' Donte Moncrief.

No--I agree, I wouldn't want J Smith at NT but was suggesting he is the heart of the DL in SF as Poe is in KC...tough all pro caliber players. Dobbs appears to me to have fallen into the jack of all trades situation, where he can't really work enough at one position to be excellent but has overall really good natural ability. Maybe not, but they have even had him playing offense in the past so...

They really have weathered injuries amazingly well and if they can get some of the walking wounded back on the field the 9ers will be fine. KC really can't afford too many more injuries. They are not nearly as deep as the niners and a few injuries would sink them. Of course, a key injury to either team would be devastating!
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by dj43:
I just finished watching the KC/Houston game. I was somewhat surprised by what I saw. From what some posters here had said, and what some national writers wrote, I expected Alex Smith to look pretty much like junk. He was far from it. Other than the one throw down on the goal line where he threw McGrath out of bounds, he played a very good game. The one pick was clearly the result of McCluster stopping on his route. In the meantime, he had some good throws and a couple of great throws. In addition, he was adjusting run plays to good advantage. He also had the protection right 90% of the time. He was also a total of about 2 feet from having to TD throws. I still think Fasano was across the goal line but the replay was "inconclusive." Good management by Alex.

Houston, though now 2-5, is still a formidable defensive team, or at least it was until Cushing went down. KC dominated in the game. The Kansas City OL had their best game of the season, and they did it against JJ Watt and Friends. That line is the youngest group in the league and held its own against the Texans. Jeff Allen is now healthy and playing well at RG. Fisher still has room to improve but is much better than he was at the beginning of the season. Though he often had help against Watt, there were several times where he won a stalemate with Watt. Asomoah is a banger and left a few welts on some Houston boys. Hudson is just average as a blocker but adjusted protections very well. Overall a good offensive effort even though the score board does not tell the true story.

I love their defense. Poe anchors a front 7 that I believe is as good overall as the 49ers, if not better. Poe is the best NT in the league, and it isn't close. No other NT gets the penetration he does while not getting forced out of the hole. He frees up all the other guys to make plays. Their sack totals are terrific and I loved the overload blitz packages that Sutton turned lose toward the end of the game when Houston desperately needed to throw the ball. I hope Fangio was watching. I don't have to tell anyone here that the 49ers are struggling to put pressure on the QB.

I am looking forward to the Denver game. Denver's defense is nothing special. I could easily see the Chiefs going into Denver and getting a win. Manning is vulnerable when he starts getting hit, and KC's linebackers are going to hit him...a lot.

I agree that Alex was better than the stats indicate. That McGrath endzone pass AND the deep sideline pass to JC was frustrating.

Just wanted to note.. Jeff Allen does look healthier now, but plays LG.. not RG. He was pretty bad throughout most of their games so far. I am watching this game again, and he does seem to be doing somewhat better. I still don't trust him, and think he is the 2nd worst OL behind Fisher at RT.. who also seems a little better lately.

The 6+ minute drive at the end of quarter 2... when down 10-7... now that was cool. Sometimes, I do think Reid is toying with the opponents... pulling out "the real" offense when they need it.. but experimenting when they don't. Either way, this offense seems to handle their business when they most need to. Having Fasano back should and already is beneficial.

I can see the Chiefs losing 4 or even 5 games down this stretch. They have surprised me so far, so maybe that 4 or 5 turns into 2.

the other play that frustrated me was when charles split wide and was covered by a linebacker...smith saw the mismatch and when charles went deep he put the ball too close to the sideline and it was out of bounds....like a mistreated dog i think smith is still hesitant to risk a pick, yet if he put the ball more towards the inside of charles it is a big play and probable score
[ Edited by hofer36 on Oct 23, 2013 at 8:26 AM ]
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
I agree that Alex was better than the stats indicate. That McGrath endzone pass AND the deep sideline pass to JC was frustrating.

Just wanted to note.. Jeff Allen does look healthier now, but plays LG.. not RG. He was pretty bad throughout most of their games so far. I am watching this game again, and he does seem to be doing somewhat better. I still don't trust him, and think he is the 2nd worst OL behind Fisher at RT.. who also seems a little better lately.

The 6+ minute drive at the end of quarter 2... when down 10-7... now that was cool. Sometimes, I do think Reid is toying with the opponents... pulling out "the real" offense when they need it.. but experimenting when they don't. Either way, this offense seems to handle their business when they most need to. Having Fasano back should and already is beneficial.

I can see the Chiefs losing 4 or even 5 games down this stretch. They have surprised me so far, so maybe that 4 or 5 turns into 2.

I must have been thinking ahead to Asomoah when I said RG.
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by dj43:
I just finished watching the KC/Houston game. I was somewhat surprised by what I saw. From what some posters here had said, and what some national writers wrote, I expected Alex Smith to look pretty much like junk. He was far from it. Other than the one throw down on the goal line where he threw McGrath out of bounds, he played a very good game. The one pick was clearly the result of McCluster stopping on his route. In the meantime, he had some good throws and a couple of great throws. In addition, he was adjusting run plays to good advantage. He also had the protection right 90% of the time. He was also a total of about 2 feet from having to TD throws. I still think Fasano was across the goal line but the replay was "inconclusive." Good management by Alex.

Houston, though now 2-5, is still a formidable defensive team, or at least it was until Cushing went down. KC dominated in the game. The Kansas City OL had their best game of the season, and they did it against JJ Watt and Friends. That line is the youngest group in the league and held its own against the Texans. Jeff Allen is now healthy and playing well at RG. Fisher still has room to improve but is much better than he was at the beginning of the season. Though he often had help against Watt, there were several times where he won a stalemate with Watt. Asomoah is a banger and left a few welts on some Houston boys. Hudson is just average as a blocker but adjusted protections very well. Overall a good offensive effort even though the score board does not tell the true story.

I love their defense. Poe anchors a front 7 that I believe is as good overall as the 49ers, if not better. Poe is the best NT in the league, and it isn't close. No other NT gets the penetration he does while not getting forced out of the hole. He frees up all the other guys to make plays. Their sack totals are terrific and I loved the overload blitz packages that Sutton turned lose toward the end of the game when Houston desperately needed to throw the ball. I hope Fangio was watching. I don't have to tell anyone here that the 49ers are struggling to put pressure on the QB.

I am looking forward to the Denver game. Denver's defense is nothing special. I could easily see the Chiefs going into Denver and getting a win. Manning is vulnerable when he starts getting hit, and KC's linebackers are going to hit him...a lot.

I agree that Alex was better than the stats indicate. That McGrath endzone pass AND the deep sideline pass to JC was frustrating.

Just wanted to note.. Jeff Allen does look healthier now, but plays LG.. not RG. He was pretty bad throughout most of their games so far. I am watching this game again, and he does seem to be doing somewhat better. I still don't trust him, and think he is the 2nd worst OL behind Fisher at RT.. who also seems a little better lately.

The 6+ minute drive at the end of quarter 2... when down 10-7... now that was cool. Sometimes, I do think Reid is toying with the opponents... pulling out "the real" offense when they need it.. but experimenting when they don't. Either way, this offense seems to handle their business when they most need to. Having Fasano back should and already is beneficial.

I can see the Chiefs losing 4 or even 5 games down this stretch. They have surprised me so far, so maybe that 4 or 5 turns into 2.

the other play that frustrated me was when charles split wide and was covered by a linebacker...smith saw the mismatch and when charles went deep he put the ball too close to the sideline and it was out of bounds....like a mistreated dog i think smith is still hesitant to risk a pick, yet if he put the ball more towards the inside of charles it is a big play and probable score

Agree that ball was not placed well. However, every QB misses on a certain number of passes during a game. The standard for Smith is no different than for any other. It is just that now everyone seems to look at him under a microscope on every play while Peyton the Great just misfires once in a while. They are both human and will miss on occasion.