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Originally posted by HomerJ:Originally posted by Joecool:3rd down conversion rate please because his overall numbers do not translate to efficient player.
3rd down conversion rate more important than wins to you? It's been posted that since 2011 he is the winningest QB in the league
As of half time of the game last Sunday, the Raiders looked as if they may have lost both their starting running back and the primary backup to hamstring injuries. Now, after both Darren Mcfadden and Rashad practiced all week, it appears they could have both in the lineup on Sunday when the team travels to Kansas City.
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Mark my words -- KC is going DOWN this weekend. They will lose to the Raiders.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by KoolBeans:
Dude, maybe we are the same person. I was just thinking the same thing. I know from watching their games they have a ton of 3rd and 1's, I'm willing to bet that Jamaal is accountable for most of those failed 3rd down conversions. Can you do this for the 9ers as well?
Depends on how much time I have.. maybe. I don't really care about the SF issues at play. We all know what the problem is with that offense... and it isn't the run game.
Originally posted by HomerJ:
3rd down conversion rate more important than wins to you? It's been posted that since 2011 he is the winningest QB in the league
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Momentum and confidence play a big role for a locker room in breaking that next level barrier. chiefs have it now. The only reason I don't want them to win too many games is 12-14: the spots in the draft they may move back. :)
you sure that's the only reason?
Yes. If they started the season out playing Denver, NE, GB, the momentum and confidence would not be there by week 5. They would still be unsure of themselves sitting at possibly 2-3.
Would still be a strong team, but unsure of where they believe they stand on the totem pole.
Originally posted by 49ersMVP:
NFL.com Alex Smith Interview... "It's a work in progress" "when the games are on the line we have made plays and protected the football!"...
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000260747/Alex-Smith-on-season-It-is-a-work-in-progress
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by KoolBeans:
Dude, maybe we are the same person. I was just thinking the same thing. I know from watching their games they have a ton of 3rd and 1's, I'm willing to bet that Jamaal is accountable for most of those failed 3rd down conversions. Can you do this for the 9ers as well?
Depends on how much time I have.. maybe. I don't really care about the SF issues at play. We all know what the problem is with that offense... and it isn't the run game.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=AFC&type=Rushing&rank=071&year=
Alex Smith ranks 20th in the AFC (3/9) for rushing. JC doesn't rank for rushing. H'es 1 for 4 on 3rd and short (less than 3).
Passing:
In the NFL Alex ranks 18th for 3rd and long 6/21
In the NFL Alex ranks 20th for 3rd and medium 12/27
In the NFL Alex ranks 16th for 3rd and short 3/6
Basic Math:
25 1sts 75 Attempts 33.3% Total 3rd down conversions (ESPN.com)
63 attempts from Alex = 12 attempts by Jamaal Charles
24 Successes by Alex smith = 1 success by Jamaal Charles.
So Jamaal Charles has failed to run for a 1st down with the exception of a single 3rd and short situation.
Originally posted by Joecool:
It is Alex's way of play that has made this team better. I agree to that. This does not make him a top QB. This is also why he won't win in the playoffs...
...unless his team around him plays lights out.
If you ever quote me on that last sentence, do not leave out the second portion of it. "Real" Chiefs fans will eventually realize they need an upgrade at QB. The bandwaggoner's will blame 52 of the 53 players that are suited every week.
Originally posted by billbird2111:Mark my words -- KC is going DOWN this weekend. They will lose to the Raiders.
Originally posted by Joecool:
It is obvious that the only thing Alex is doing to help KC win is not turning the ball over. Any uber safe QB can with with the talent on this team. Any careless team on my shoulders QB can lose with this team.
It is Alex's way of play that has made this team better. I agree to that. This does not make him a top QB. This is also why he won't win in the playoffs...
...unless his team around him plays lights out.
If you ever quote me on that last sentence, do not leave out the second portion of it. "Real" Chiefs fans will eventually realize they need an upgrade at QB. The bandwaggoner's will blame 52 of the 53 players that are suited every week.
... good to have ya back, joe.
