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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
This is a Chiefs thread, the worst team out of all 32 teams last year ..to hear that they will be a power house next year is amusing and i like reading it


Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Chiefs are going to surprise a lot of people this season. While I don't think anyone will beat Denver for the division title I expect KC to give them a run and come up just short. It will all depend on whether or not the current coaching staff can bring out the talent of that defense. Make no mistake about it, there is a ton of talent on that roster on both sides of the ball. Should be interesting. Love to see them knock the Broncos around in KC at the very least. GO CHIEFS! FUNK DENVER!!

Chiefs will surprise or will Alex surprise ?

we all seen what the Chiefs can do

too easy

Yes KC schedule has been easier then expected

Wrong. The Chiefs have the very schedule everyone expected them to have: the team with the lowest number of wins plays other teams with low numbers of wins. The expectation around the league is that the large majority of teams will have a shot at a .500 mark until the final couple of weeks of the season. In the case of the Chiefs, most recognized it was a talented roster that had been saddled with a terrible QB and lousy HC, consequently, they had underachieved.

If the Chiefs have "surprised" anyone it is that they had not followed the career of Alex Smith over the past 2 1/2 years and/or they overlooked the years of consistently good teams Reid produced in Philly. For those who really followed the NFL beyond their own home town favorite, they realized KC had a very talented roster (6 Pro Bowlers) except for QB, and they recognized that Andy Reid was one of the best coaches in the league but had run into injury and attitude problems with a team composed of a bunch of "superstars."

As a result, KC solved their QB problem by trading for a QB that is custom made for Reid's offense, and the combination of that plus the talent already on the roster, has yielded exactly the results knowledgeable football people expected.
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

better offensive efficiency than Kaepernick.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Dilfer went 16-4 and won a SB....he must be a HOF'r

If you say so...didn't know you liked him that much!
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
This is a Chiefs thread, the worst team out of all 32 teams last year ..to hear that they will be a power house next year is amusing and i like reading it


Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Chiefs are going to surprise a lot of people this season. While I don't think anyone will beat Denver for the division title I expect KC to give them a run and come up just short. It will all depend on whether or not the current coaching staff can bring out the talent of that defense. Make no mistake about it, there is a ton of talent on that roster on both sides of the ball. Should be interesting. Love to see them knock the Broncos around in KC at the very least. GO CHIEFS! FUNK DENVER!!

Chiefs will surprise or will Alex surprise ?

we all seen what the Chiefs can do

too easy

Yes KC schedule has been easier then expected

Wrong. The Chiefs have the very schedule everyone expected them to have: the team with the lowest number of wins plays other teams with low numbers of wins. The expectation around the league is that the large majority of teams will have a shot at a .500 mark until the final couple of weeks of the season. In the case of the Chiefs, most recognized it was a talented roster that had been saddled with a terrible QB and lousy HC, consequently, they had underachieved.

If the Chiefs have "surprised" anyone it is that they had not followed the career of Alex Smith over the past 2 1/2 years and/or they overlooked the years of consistently good teams Reid produced in Philly. For those who really followed the NFL beyond their own home town favorite, they realized KC had a very talented roster (6 Pro Bowlers) except for QB, and they recognized that Andy Reid was one of the best coaches in the league but had run into injury and attitude problems with a team composed of a bunch of "superstars."

As a result, KC solved their QB problem by trading for a QB that is custom made for Reid's offense, and the combination of that plus the talent already on the roster, has yielded exactly the results knowledgeable football people expected.
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

Your comments lead me to believe you really don't watch much football at all.
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Go Alex!
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

11th ranked in offensive efficiency... and that is despite Jamaal Charles ranked as the 26th RB in success rate.


What ya got, bro 49AllTheTime? No dispute on this one?

... and to Dilfer...

Trent Dilfer... SB year
59.3 comp % -- 12 TD / 11 INT -- 76.6 rating

Alex Smith... last 3 years
62.0 comp % -- 52 TD / 14 INT -- 95.1 QB rating


Hmmmmmm... yeah, looks about the same...
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

You obviously don't watch the chiefs games, which is fine, but stay out if this thread if you are just gonna make posts to piss people off.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

You obviously don't watch the chiefs games, which is fine, but stay out if this thread if you are just gonna make posts to piss people off.

I watched every game so far..where would you like to discuss?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I watched every game so far..where would you like to discuss?

Well your wrong as f**k then. Lol
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

11th ranked in offensive efficiency... and that is despite Jamaal Charles ranked as the 26th RB in success rate.


What ya got, bro 49AllTheTime? No dispute on this one?

... and to Dilfer...

Trent Dilfer... SB year
59.3 comp % -- 12 TD / 11 INT -- 76.6 rating

Alex Smith... last 3 years
62.0 comp % -- 52 TD / 14 INT -- 95.1 QB rating


Hmmmmmm... yeah, looks about the same...

Yup...looks like the defenses carried
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I watched every game so far..where would you like to discuss?

Well your wrong as f**k then. Lol

Where? And which game do you want to start

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Where? And which game do you want to start

The numbers and the offensive efficiency doesn't lie. Also, really no need to value your quarterback assessment when almost every NFL analyst (that actually played in the NFL) says the dude is playing the position very well. But I assume you think you know more than they do.
I'm sure they're going to get to 8 wins, so now I'd like to see the Chiefs lose some games so that the pick is as high as possible. I see 2 games against the Chargers, 2 against the Broncos, 1 against the Colts and 1 against the Texans coming up for the Chiefs. They've also got games at the Titans and at the Redskins. I'd like to see them lose six of those 8 games. Losing 8 of them would be better, but that's too much to hope for. 10-6 at least gets the Niners into the high teens or low 20's on the second round pick.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Having a good defense did not solve their QB situation..AS is in the same position as he was with the 9ers in 2011..bandaid till someone better comes along

AS has kept them from giving up the ball...but he's also not marching down field as well

11th ranked in offensive efficiency... and that is despite Jamaal Charles ranked as the 26th RB in success rate.


What ya got, bro 49AllTheTime? No dispute on this one?

... and to Dilfer...

Trent Dilfer... SB year
59.3 comp % -- 12 TD / 11 INT -- 76.6 rating

Alex Smith... last 3 years
62.0 comp % -- 52 TD / 14 INT -- 95.1 QB rating


Hmmmmmm... yeah, looks about the same...

Yup...looks like the defenses carried

I guess the 49er defense carried Joe Montana all those years as well. His LIFETIME QB rating is 93 and completion % is 63. Almost identical to Smith's last three years.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Where? And which game do you want to start

The numbers and the offensive efficiency doesn't lie. Also, really no need to value your quarterback assessment when almost every NFL analyst (that actually played in the NFL) says the dude is playing the position very well. But I assume you think you know more than they do.

What he's doing is not making mistakes. Let's not pretend Alex is burning up the league. They're in the middle of the pack on offense and they lead the league in points allowed. The strength of the team is clearly defense. The Eagles game is a great example. He simply would not take a shot down field. He's still very timid about taking any chances at all. It's working with the Chiefs because they haven't really run into what people would call one of the stronger offensive teams yet. We'll see where the Chiefs offense is when they run into a team that they have to score on like the Broncos, Chargers, Colts or Texans.
Originally posted by dj43:
I guess the 49er defense carried Joe Montana all those years as well. His LIFETIME QB rating is 93 and completion % is 63. Almost identical to Smith's last three years.

Montana led the league in passing or was in the top five in '84, '87, '89, '90 (there might be more years). Montana was first team All-Pro three times and was invited to 8 pro bowls. Yes, he had some very good defenses, but let's not pretend that Smith's QB rating over the last 3 years puts him anywhere near Joe Montana. That's just silly and it's a textbook example of silly applications for statistics.
[ Edited by GNielsen on Oct 5, 2013 at 9:40 AM ]
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