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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
After 25 years of passing inflation, those stats, in 2013, would 142, 350yds/game, 43 TD's, 10 INTs* and 10 SB's.

* Don't ask me why.

This isn't the economy we're talking about Joe. You think Walsh would say, "Golly, QBs are throwing for more yards now so I'll just throw out my system and use the throw it long system...maybe trade for Romo."

I don't think so! He would still value the short passing game with the occasional long pass to open up the running game.

All these fantasy football stats made fans a bunch of potatoes.

#realtalk

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Lucky I've never done the fantasy thing! The closest I've come is the Pick'em thread...and that hasn't gone so well!
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Alex leads all QBs in rushing attempts
Originally posted by vaden:
Alex leads all QBs in rushing attempts

He is better at being Colin Kaepernick than Colin is
Gotta admit I do enjoy watching the Chiefs play the same way that made us successful. I really hope we get back to that....consistently.

Our 2011 and (to an extent) our 2012 offense = our fat girlfriend who finally lost some weight and was lookin good and keeping us happy. She wasn't a trophy wife but she got the job done.

2013 offense = the sexy hot neighbor lady who sucks and f**ks like a champ and you're all excited until you discover the med cabinet filled with anti-psychotics.
Sean McGrath was asked this question.

Describe Alex Smith.

"Alex is a great quarterback. He spreads the ball out and as a tight end, you're looking for a guy that does that, because you get the pill a little bit more. He goes through his progressions and the great thing about Alex is, he's going to hit the open guy, no matter who it is. From what I've seen, he doesn't have a specific target, before the play is already called; he's going to make his reads and he's going to throw to the open man."

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Sean-McGrath-The-Man-Behind-the-Beard/847632af-c3ce-429d-ae77-b5a82d345f62
4 more wins. C'mon Chiefs, don't be the 2012 Cards. Keep that s**t up and get us that 2nd round pick!
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
After 25 years of passing inflation, those stats, in 2013, would 142, 350yds/game, 43 TD's, 10 INTs* and 10 SB's.

* Don't ask me why.

This isn't the economy we're talking about Joe. You think Walsh would say, "Golly, QBs are throwing for more yards now so I'll just throw out my system and use the throw it long system...maybe trade for Romo."

I don't think so! He would still value the short passing game with the occasional long pass to open up the running game.

All these fantasy football stats made fans a bunch of potatoes.

#realtalk

- 98

Lucky I've never done the fantasy thing! The closest I've come is the Pick'em thread...and that hasn't gone so well!

Same here. Luckily, this is my first year of fantasy and I still don't keep track of that team...well, my only move was to bench Vick and start Alex.

Yes, Alex is my starting QB on my fantasy team and he is consistently getting me 30 + points a week.

Why did I pick him? Strong team, weak schedule. Alex doesn't disappoint under these conditions. Definitlely will bench him the week he plays a strong team.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Correct--28 TDs to 8 INTs isn't pedestiran. The rest is typical WCO numbers for a QB. But you are most correct about wins...they trump everything.

Edit: The WCO relies on limiting turn overs. Walsh considered a short pass to be just as reliable as a hand-off so QBs will tend to have fewer YPA.


WCO also typically allows for a better rating and completion % as well and that's why I said those numbers are pedestrian. Bottom line he plays efficient and they win games and as long as that holds true he's doing his job.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Same here. Luckily, this is my first year of fantasy and I still don't keep track of that team...well, my only move was to bench Vick and start Alex.

Yes, Alex is my starting QB on my fantasy team and he is consistently getting me 30 + points a week.

Why did I pick him? Strong team, weak schedule. Alex doesn't disappoint under these conditions. Definitlely will bench him the week he plays a strong team.




Originally posted by dtg_9er:
This isn't the economy we're talking about Joe. You think Walsh would say, "Golly, QBs are throwing for more yards now so I'll just throw out my system and use the throw it long system...maybe trade for Romo."

I don't think so! He would still value the short passing game with the occasional long pass to open up the running game.

Great in theory but after you win a Super Bowl and have to pay your qb 20 mil a year that kind of effects how you continue to build the team.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Alex's Pace: 352/584 60.3% 3828 yd 28 TD 8 INT


That's a very good TD to Int ratio but the rest is pedestrian. Wins are obviously the most important though.

Correct--28 TDs to 8 INTs isn't pedestiran. The rest is typical WCO numbers for a QB. But you are most correct about wins...they trump everything.

Edit: The WCO relies on limiting turn overs. Walsh considered a short pass to be just as reliable as a hand-off so QBs will tend to have fewer YPA.

In Joe Montana's best year rating wise (102.9 , he averaged 226 yds/game, 28 TDs 10 INTs...and won the SB.

After 25 years of passing inflation, those stats, in 2013, would 142, 350yds/game, 43 TD's, 10 INTs* and 10 SB's.

* Don't ask me why.

No. Those numbers are NOT answered by rule changes. In that same year, Dan Marino averaged 317 yds/game, had 48 TDs 17 INTs, and lost the SB to Joe's paltry WCO team.
Originally posted by KoolBeans:
Sean McGrath was asked this question.

Describe Alex Smith.

"Alex is a great quarterback. He spreads the ball out and as a tight end, you're looking for a guy that does that, because you get the pill a little bit more. He goes through his progressions and the great thing about Alex is, he's going to hit the open guy, no matter who it is. From what I've seen, he doesn't have a specific target, before the play is already called; he's going to make his reads and he's going to throw to the open man."

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Sean-McGrath-The-Man-Behind-the-Beard/847632af-c3ce-429d-ae77-b5a82d345f62
wonder what we would have to trade to get him back? lol
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by vaden:
Alex leads all QBs in rushing attempts

He is better at being Colin Kaepernick than Colin is

He's doing it closer to what Aaron Rodgers was doing in 2011. Defense covered everyone downfield, he takes the open lane for 8-10 yards. I think he didn't do a lot of it with us because we don't have a good receiver core like the Chiefs --- Bowe, McCluster, Avery, and even Charles. I would name Fasano as the TE to go along with that -- but it's actually McGrath the 3rd TE, for right now

Defense just don't expect Smith to run with the ball like they do with Kaep, so Smith can some what surprise them because they don't deem it as a threat. But if he continued to gash them, they will start to pay attention and he may not be able to do it as much.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Sep 30, 2013 at 2:42 PM ]
Originally posted by dj43:
No. Those numbers are NOT answered by rule changes. In that same year, Dan Marino averaged 317 yds/game, had 48 TDs 17 INTs, and lost the SB to Joe's paltry WCO team.


Except Marino and Fouts were the exceptions to the rule. The Niners were a top 10 passing team just about every year under Montana. We were not anymore run balanced then the average team.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by dj43:
No. Those numbers are NOT answered by rule changes. In that same year, Dan Marino averaged 317 yds/game, had 48 TDs 17 INTs, and lost the SB to Joe's paltry WCO team.


Except Marino and Fouts were the exceptions to the rule. The Niners were a top 10 passing team just about every year under Montana. We were not anymore run balanced then the average team.

The point was that you COULD put up big passing numbers in 1984 if you chose to play that way. The WCO was/is a system that holds onto the ball, wears out the other team's defense and keeps the defense fresh to do its thing. The TOP is just as important as personnel is to having a "good" defense. In short, WCO is very defense-friendly...for their own defense.