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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Originally posted by Souz123:
Originally posted by kidash98:
You really going that route, bruh?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Sorry but a lot of black QBs are now getting a lot more credit than they are due. It was the opposite 20, even 10 years ago.. but any1 who thinks black QBs now are discriminated against is just crazy. They are more so discriminated for as being "DYNAMIC" .. Kaep and Wilson are definitely Dynamic QBs, but hey, so is Luck

Maybe it's because they can play?!?!?!?!?

And what the hell does this have to do with the Chiefs?

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Originally posted by kidash98:
Originally posted by Souz123:
Originally posted by kidash98:
You really going that route, bruh?!?!?!?!?!?!?

- 98

Sorry but a lot of black QBs are now getting a lot more credit than they are due. It was the opposite 20, even 10 years ago.. but any1 who thinks black QBs now are discriminated against is just crazy. They are more so discriminated for as being "DYNAMIC" .. Kaep and Wilson are definitely Dynamic QBs, but hey, so is Luck

Maybe it's because they can play?!?!?!?!?

And what the hell does this have to do with the Chiefs?

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This is why the rules are set up to treat "running" QBs as ball carriers in the pocket allowing hits to come outside of the designated strike zone reserved for "pocket passers" when it is deemed this type of QB is in a certain threatening "posture" to defensive players. These black QBs are already being treated like royalty I guess you can say because they are being given "so much credit" for their abilities over other QBs
Originally posted by Souz123:
his only limitation at QB is perception by the public. Which has grown to be enamoured with black quarterbacks at the expense of white quarterbacks who are less than extraordinary. This is not to go to the other extreme and say that the likes of Russell Wilson and Kaepernick are bad, but Vick, "RG3" and Josh Freeman are s**tty. Does anyone remember the Nate Davis craze? lololol

You lost your argument when it turned racial.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Souz123:
his only limitation at QB is perception by the public. Which has grown to be enamoured with black quarterbacks at the expense of white quarterbacks who are less than extraordinary. This is not to go to the other extreme and say that the likes of Russell Wilson and Kaepernick are bad, but Vick, "RG3" and Josh Freeman are s**tty. Does anyone remember the Nate Davis craze? lololol

You lost your argument when it turned racial.

Pathetic indeed! If we really think that a QB expert like Jim Harbaugh would dump a highly efficient white, pretty boy, clean cut QB in Alex Smith for a tatted up black QB renegade like some say Kap is because he is simply enamored with "black QBs" then we need more sleep
Alex Smith is gonna get his team beat on Sunday. Giants are his mountain and he can't make it over.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....

This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football
Originally posted by Jt8786:
Alex Smith is gonna get his team beat on Sunday. Giants are his mountain and he can't make it over.

They do know how to play him defensively but I am pulling for the Chiefs nonetheless and Andy knows how to attack them defensively as well
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....

This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

The guys trying to look pretty throwing 3 picks and having 2 fumbles a game need to be more controlled....
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

Alex actually began playing well the year before, after Johnson took over. Smith was calling his own plays for the most part and the offense improved. Not sure who, but it may have been OTC keeping track of his play from then through his first season with Harbaugh. I do agree that Harbaugh helped him continue his upward climb. Reid gets credit as well. It takes good coaches and talent for a guy to succeed in this league...even Manning had the same OC for his first ten years.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....

This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

The guys trying to look pretty throwing 3 picks and having 2 fumbles a game need to be more controlled....

A lot of those turnovers came late in the last 2 games if I recall with Kap trying desperately to save an already forfeited contest. He was trying to force the action and it backfired resulting in points scored on our defense ruining an otherwise solid defensive effort in both contests. I don't think Kap is trying to look pretty at all. I think that he is trying to win games the best way he knows how given the game plan as flawed as it may have been
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....

This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

The guys trying to look pretty throwing 3 picks and having 2 fumbles a game need to be more controlled....

guys like jay cutler and matthew stafford like to throw into tight windows..what have they done as far as winning?
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

Alex actually began playing well the year before, after Johnson took over. Smith was calling his own plays for the most part and the offense improved. Not sure who, but it may have been OTC keeping track of his play from then through his first season with Harbaugh. I do agree that Harbaugh helped him continue his upward climb. Reid gets credit as well. It takes good coaches and talent for a guy to succeed in this league...even Manning had the same OC for his first ten years.

But I remember Singletary not thinking that Alex was "playing well" enough what with the QB carousel he instituted between Alex and Troy Smith nor did the fans with their "we want Carr" chants. Alex picked it up towards the end of the year but his career turned on its head for the better with the 2011 season. I don't think many will disagree with that. 2010 Alex Smith was not one you show the grandkids
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Sep 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM ]
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....

This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

The guys trying to look pretty throwing 3 picks and having 2 fumbles a game need to be more controlled....

A lot of those turnovers came late in the last 2 games if I recall with Kap trying desperately to save an already forfeited contest. He was trying to force the action and it backfired resulting in points scored on our defense ruining an otherwise solid defensive effort in both contests. I don't think Kap is trying to look pretty at all. I think that he is trying to win games the best way he knows how given the game plan as flawed as it may have been

Against the Seahawks, Kaep threw his first INT in the 1st quarter when he failed to read the zone defense and threw it too far ahead of VD, the DB had a better angle to the ball than VD did. It would have been a TD if Kaep had been more accurate and put it right in VD's chest, but he led his too much.

Kaep's second turn over came in the 2nd quarter when he failed to hold onto the ball while getting sacked. This was a problem last year too if I remember correctly.

His second INT came on a poorly thrown ball where, instead of overthrowing VD this time, he underthrew him and Sherman looked more like the receiver than VD did. He still had over 14 minutes in the 4th quarter and we were down 22-3. Not good, but still possible to come back from.

His final INT vs the Seahawks came when the game was truly over (due to Kaepernick's turn overs early on in the game and his inability to move the offense), however, Kaepernick overthrew Williams by 5 yards over his head and the ball fell right into the SS's lap.

Against the Colts, Kaepernick's first turn over occurred in the 4th quarter. Once again, he failed to secure the ball while being sacked and lost it. This led to the Colts scoring their final TD.

His INT in this game came as a result of putting no touch on his pass or attempting to change the angle of his throw. He threw the ball right into the face of the defender and it popped up into the air.
Originally posted by Forkenick:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9/25/4767278/how-good-is-the-chiefs-offense

Interesting post / fan written article.

So what? Alex Smith offenses never rank in the top few for stats. But they do rank in the top few for lack of turnovers. And those lack of turnovers = wins.

Too many of these writers are all caught up in stats and "pretty" football. That's not Alex Smith football. It never was with us and it's not now. But winning obviously is Alex Smith football. Because he's still doing it even not with us on a much worse team.....

This newfound Alex Smith winning phenomenon just so happened to fully materialize under one Jim Harbaugh, the man to actually replace him with Kap. Most all of the credit should go to Alex and his teammates for what I would dare say is stellar despite the objections of some but I maintain that Jim did Alex a whole world of good. Alex deserves his applause however because he is winning by playing controlled, high percentage football

The guys trying to look pretty throwing 3 picks and having 2 fumbles a game need to be more controlled....

A lot of those turnovers came late in the last 2 games if I recall with Kap trying desperately to save an already forfeited contest. He was trying to force the action and it backfired resulting in points scored on our defense ruining an otherwise solid defensive effort in both contests. I don't think Kap is trying to look pretty at all. I think that he is trying to win games the best way he knows how given the game plan as flawed as it may have been

Against the Seahawks, Kaep threw his first INT in the 1st quarter when he failed to read the zone defense and threw it too far ahead of VD, the DB had a better angle to the ball than VD did. It would have been a TD if Kaep had been more accurate and put it right in VD's chest, but he led his too much.

Kaep's second turn over came in the 2nd quarter when he failed to hold onto the ball while getting sacked. This was a problem last year too if I remember correctly.

His second INT came on a poorly thrown ball where, instead of overthrowing VD this time, he underthrew him and Sherman looked more like the receiver than VD did. He still had over 14 minutes in the 4th quarter and we were down 22-3. Not good, but still possible to come back from.

His final INT vs the Seahawks came when the game was truly over (due to Kaepernick's turn overs early on in the game and his inability to move the offense), however, Kaepernick overthrew Williams by 5 yards over his head and the ball fell right into the SS's lap.

Against the Colts, Kaepernick's first turn over occurred in the 4th quarter. Once again, he failed to secure the ball while being sacked and lost it. This led to the Colts scoring their final TD.

His INT in this game came as a result of putting no touch on his pass or attempting to change the angle of his throw. He threw the ball right into the face of the defender and it popped up into the air.

Good recap ... Of the game in SEA vs record decibel level noise where we could not do anything offensively due to both the play of Kap and the defensive acumen of SEA. Two turnovers early though not acceptable are understandable in that environment but the last 2 turnovers were in my opinion garbage time. He has had 2 poor games but he threw caution to the wind for about 4 turnovers late in these last 2 games trying to put points on the board in a failed effort of a game
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Sep 26, 2013 at 4:44 PM ]
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