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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Wow. 3-0 despite Smith! Those Chefs must be a talented team to overcome such suckage. :D
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Wish we could run the ball like them.

chiefs run game would really take a jump forward if they had a good big/power back who could complement charles

Yeah, Charles couldn't convert a couple of 3rd and short last night. They need A.Dixon or similar. Drive the pile type and have just enough wiggle move to bounce out if necessary. J.Charles needs to take a page from Gore when running inside. Get low like Gore and just drive with the legs. Charles run high sometimes.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Sep 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM ]
When the trade came down, I went over to a Chiefs forum to take part and ad my two cents on Alex Smith. I just got massively slammed over there when I tried to tell them that he was an extremely efficient QB who was just what Reid wanted to run the offense - a guy who wouldn't make mistakes and lose games for them like their last two QB's did. I'm looking forward to going back over there and dishing out a little well-cooked crow to some of those know-it-alls. Smith is still the same QB he has been for the last couple years with the Niners - he doesn't take chances and he doesn't make mistakes. He's very steady and very smart. I'm not sure he's going to get them to the playoffs, but I'm pretty sure the Niners are going to get their 2nd round pick.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Only one thing needs to be said. On offense, they only had one key change and that was QB. You can say they also switched coaches, but I think the change in QB is a bigger difference.

As for which team has a better defense. How many defensive probowlers did KC have and how many did we have? The defenses are actually comparable but not even the best defenses can overcome the amount of turnovers they had last year.
We agree. That defense had the same players last season but the QB kept giving the ball away. When they kept the ball, Charles gained 1,500 yards but much of that was negated by terrible QB play.

Now the defense is still doing a great job and Charles is having another good year, and the QB has not turned it over once. Moreover, as witnessed last night in the 4th quarter, when the team needed a long drive to win the game, Alex Smith delivered it...and he did it with some clutch throws down the field. I was particularly impressed with how he used a 3rd string TE and a backup RB for critical 3rd down conversions. On one of those throws, they showed his eyes going back and forth across the field until he found the open receiver. Good stuff.

Another comment from one of the talking heads last night was that Andy Reid has told Alex Smith to take whatever he sees out there. No training wheels. I don't recall the specific wording but the comment included the intimation that Jim Harbaugh had put restrictions on Smith in where he should try to go with the ball. Those restrictions no longer exist in KC.

With all the negative stuff coming out of Niner land today, it is nice to be able to come over here and have a positive conversation.
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
When the trade came down, I went over to a Chiefs forum to take part and ad my two cents on Alex Smith. I just got massively slammed over there when I tried to tell them that he was an extremely efficient QB who was just what Reid wanted to run the offense - a guy who wouldn't make mistakes and lose games for them like their last two QB's did. I'm looking forward to going back over there and dishing out a little well-cooked crow to some of those know-it-alls. Smith is still the same QB he has been for the last couple years with the Niners - he doesn't take chances and he doesn't make mistakes. He's very steady and very smart. I'm not sure he's going to get them to the playoffs, but I'm pretty sure the Niners are going to get their 2nd round pick.

I probably saw you over there at some point. I've been there a bit myself. If you are going to serve some crow over there, you better get it going soon as there has already been some served up by some of the local Chiefs fans who are delighted with 3-0.
Originally posted by dj43:
I probably saw you over there at some point. I've been there a bit myself. If you are going to serve some crow over there, you better get it going soon as there has already been some served up by some of the local Chiefs fans who are delighted with 3-0.

Good. He's doing a great job over there and I'm pretty sure the Niners are going to have two second round picks next draft which is pretty sweet.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Only one thing needs to be said. On offense, they only had one key change and that was QB. You can say they also switched coaches, but I think the change in QB is a bigger difference.

As for which team has a better defense. How many defensive probowlers did KC have and how many did we have? The defenses are actually comparable but not even the best defenses can overcome the amount of turnovers they had last year.
We agree. That defense had the same players last season but the QB kept giving the ball away. When they kept the ball, Charles gained 1,500 yards but much of that was negated by terrible QB play.

Now the defense is still doing a great job and Charles is having another good year, and the QB has not turned it over once. Moreover, as witnessed last night in the 4th quarter, when the team needed a long drive to win the game, Alex Smith delivered it...and he did it with some clutch throws down the field. I was particularly impressed with how he used a 3rd string TE and a backup RB for critical 3rd down conversions. On one of those throws, they showed his eyes going back and forth across the field until he found the open receiver. Good stuff.

Another comment from one of the talking heads last night was that Andy Reid has told Alex Smith to take whatever he sees out there. No training wheels. I don't recall the specific wording but the comment included the intimation that Jim Harbaugh had put restrictions on Smith in where he should try to go with the ball. Those restrictions no longer exist in KC.

With all the negative stuff coming out of Niner land today, it is nice to be able to come over here and have a positive conversation.
I agree.
I watched the Chiefs play at least 4 times last year and it wasn't just lousy QB play. Their play calling sucked as well. Reminded me when Sing was coaching the 9ers.
Ouch!
Glad Alex is doing well and 5 more wins and Oh Happy Draft Day!
I just love how Alex's success pisses the haters off
Does anyone have a link to their forum?

Last I checked, those fans were ROUGH on that trade lol
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
KC already at a league high +9 in turnovers

Gabert, Romo and Vick the elitness of QB mistakery
Originally posted by matthewabbit:
I just love how Alex's success pisses the haters off

same, he is their savior
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Only one thing needs to be said. On offense, they only had one key change and that was QB. You can say they also switched coaches, but I think the change in QB is a bigger difference.

As for which team has a better defense. How many defensive probowlers did KC have and how many did we have? The defenses are actually comparable but not even the best defenses can overcome the amount of turnovers they had last year.
We agree. That defense had the same players last season but the QB kept giving the ball away. When they kept the ball, Charles gained 1,500 yards but much of that was negated by terrible QB play.

Now the defense is still doing a great job and Charles is having another good year, and the QB has not turned it over once. Moreover, as witnessed last night in the 4th quarter, when the team needed a long drive to win the game, Alex Smith delivered it...and he did it with some clutch throws down the field. I was particularly impressed with how he used a 3rd string TE and a backup RB for critical 3rd down conversions. On one of those throws, they showed his eyes going back and forth across the field until he found the open receiver. Good stuff.

Another comment from one of the talking heads last night was that Andy Reid has told Alex Smith to take whatever he sees out there. No training wheels. I don't recall the specific wording but the comment included the intimation that Jim Harbaugh had put restrictions on Smith in where he should try to go with the ball. Those restrictions no longer exist in KC.

With all the negative stuff coming out of Niner land today, it is nice to be able to come over here and have a positive conversation.

That, that pass to the bearded TE was good execution. Why do I think Alex actually got a lot of time to pass yesterday. As for training wheels. I don't think Jim had training wheels on Alex, I do think Jim or Roman didnt want to see Alex passing up open looks downfield whereas Andy is happy with any 5 yard gain which makes Alex comfortable to do whatever he wants, which is that he wants to check down most of the time.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Only one thing needs to be said. On offense, they only had one key change and that was QB. You can say they also switched coaches, but I think the change in QB is a bigger difference.

As for which team has a better defense. How many defensive probowlers did KC have and how many did we have? The defenses are actually comparable but not even the best defenses can overcome the amount of turnovers they had last year.
We agree. That defense had the same players last season but the QB kept giving the ball away. When they kept the ball, Charles gained 1,500 yards but much of that was negated by terrible QB play.

Now the defense is still doing a great job and Charles is having another good year, and the QB has not turned it over once. Moreover, as witnessed last night in the 4th quarter, when the team needed a long drive to win the game, Alex Smith delivered it...and he did it with some clutch throws down the field. I was particularly impressed with how he used a 3rd string TE and a backup RB for critical 3rd down conversions. On one of those throws, they showed his eyes going back and forth across the field until he found the open receiver. Good stuff.

Another comment from one of the talking heads last night was that Andy Reid has told Alex Smith to take whatever he sees out there. No training wheels. I don't recall the specific wording but the comment included the intimation that Jim Harbaugh had put restrictions on Smith in where he should try to go with the ball. Those restrictions no longer exist in KC.

With all the negative stuff coming out of Niner land today, it is nice to be able to come over here and have a positive conversation.

That, that pass to the bearded TE was good execution. Why do I think Alex actually got a lot of time to pass yesterday. As for training wheels. I don't think Jim had training wheels on Alex, I do think Jim or Roman didnt want to see Alex passing up open looks downfield whereas Andy is happy with any 5 yard gain which makes Alex comfortable to do whatever he wants, which is that he wants to check down most of the time.
you know i dont know about the check down most of the time. i think its more of, what player do i have the most trust with, and i feel that will fight for the ball. Remember when they had the comparison on Davis Morgan and Crabs. He only had the problem with Crabs, which if when u go back, you'll see that his INT ratio was the biggest with him. And VD he trusted 150 percent, meaning many of those long plays and deep throws,, and bombs were to Davis. Then i really feel that last year before he had the concussion, that Crabs was starting to be the go to guy for him.

So while many call him captain checkdown still, lol. I think as they said it a few times last night. Alex is not gonna throw the ball into double and triple coverage, he just doesnt make mistakes with the football. then u see him thread that laser from the endzone with that first down conversion in the 4th quarter. so i think its more of take what the defense gives u then take your shots if they are needed.
Originally posted by Method:
I find it really funny that people are like "Did Alex cause all 5 of Philly's turnovers?" and of course he didn't. But the thing is, the guy hasn't had one turnover all year, and that's huge. If Kap didn't have any turnovers against Seattle, we win. Period. I hope he realizes when his d is playing that great, he needs to just convert first downs and keep the ball for a while sometimes. Going for the big play is great but ToP is huge on the road, like we saw last night.

You don't win many games scoring 6 points so no you can't say we win period. Did those three turnovers cost us the game, yes, but there's no denying we got outplayed on offense and defense. They ran, passed, ran defend, pass defend better than us in addition to playing smarter football.
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