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How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

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[ Edited by Mr.Mcgibblets on Aug 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM ]
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?

That isn't false....but it's also true of all of the top 50% of QBs in the NFL, imo.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?

And honestly it looks like he may have them. Defense is good, special teams is good, offense has talent. I've been a Smith fan since he played for Utah. I will admit at one point I was watching the game and thought "Well Alex if your not going to spread the ball around, your not going to do s**t". But slowly he is showing that he may be able to spread the field a little more. If it wasn't for Baldwin's drop and a couple others the game before he would've had a decent game. Last game he came out and made some nice throws and started getting the whole offense involved. Biggest problem was his 3rd down percentage again, and that goes back to him not taking chances. To me that's the next thing that has to change. If he can do that I see no reason the Chiefs wont be a legitimite wild card contender.

Thing is he threw the ball 24 times in a half. 17/24 is pretty damn good. He didn't even have that many attempts certain games here. This shows me that if he is asked to throw more he can still get it done with similar numbers as far as completion % and rating. Not to mention his yardage may start to creep up into tops in the league.

But as I said he still has things he needs to do. Basically if he can not be so afraid to turn the ball over I feel that will help out in the long run. Or it may hurt, but as far as RZ% and 3rd down% it will make a huge difference.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?

That isn't false....but it's also true of all of the top 50% of QBs in the NFL, imo.

not really, tony romo has trouble and he's considered to be a very good qb.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?

That isn't false....but it's also true of all of the top 50% of QBs in the NFL, imo.

not really, tony romo has trouble and he's considered to be a very good qb.

Tony Romo can get the team there...they just can't win afterwards. Great talent..total choke artist. He is the Anti-Montana.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Let's be real here and stop being fooled by an average. Alex is anything but consistent compared to these QB's. Here's how many times each QB went below an 80 rating last year.

Notice, Smith was not very good in nearly half of his games. Notice the QB's who are more notable for being inconsistent or rookies. Also, these guys take more risks than Alex. Not only is Alex inconsistent, he actually tries to play safe. Imagine of some of those other QB's played safe. Alex is not very good.
Now Colin played on the same team and number of games yet only had 1 game under 80.

Aaron Rodgers: 0
Peyton Manning: 1
Colin Kaepernick: 1 ()
Ben Roethlisberger: 2
RG3: 3
Matt Ryan: 3
Drew Brees: 5
Tom Brady: 5

Alex Smith:4 (note, only 8.5 games).

Eli Manning: 6 (down year)
Tony Romo: 6
Matt Schaub: 7
Joe Flacco: 7
Matt Stafford: 8
Andrew Luck: 9

This is false. Alex only went below 80 three times... and I am left wondering why you used the number 80... so let's just use the number 70 and see what happens...

below 70 games

Rodgers = 0
A. Smith = 1
Big Ben = 1
Drew Brees = 1 ( with three just barely above 70 )
Tom Brady = 1 ( with a couple close 70's )
Matt Ryan = 2
Tony Romo = 3
Eli Manning = 4 ( and 3 of the 4 in a row )
Matt Schaub = 4 ( and two more just above 70 )
Matt Stafford = 4
Joe Flacco = 5

adding in : games of less than 70


Carson Palmer = 1 ( with 3 more just above 70 )
Russell Wilson = 3
Josh Freeman = 3 ( with 3 more just above 70 )
Andy Dalton = 4
Cam Newton = 4 ( couple just above 70 )
Jay Cutler = 4 ( another just above 70 )
Phillip Rivers = 4
Sam Bradford = 5
Ryan Tannehill = 6 ( and not even counting the game where he threw only 5 passes )

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So clearly, all of these quarterbacks have had stinkers mixed in, eh? You have anything else to add on just how inconsistent Alex is compared to other quarterbacks now, joe?

For a QB that plays super safe and takes sacks if it doesn't look as wide open as it would for a college QB, Alex fluctuates far too often. He is the epitome of taking what is given but even that is narrowed down to taking nothing if the defense takes his small-ball game away...a situation most of those other QB's can overcome.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?

That isn't false....but it's also true of all of the top 50% of QBs in the NFL, imo.

not really, tony romo has trouble and he's considered to be a very good qb.

Tony Romo can get the team there...they just can't win afterwards. Great talent..total choke artist. He is the Anti-Montana.

Totally agree with this assessment.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
can we all just agree that with the right pieces around him, alex can win you ball games and compete for a playoff birth?

That isn't false....but it's also true of all of the top 50% of QBs in the NFL, imo.

not really, tony romo has trouble and he's considered to be a very good qb.

Tony Romo can get the team there...they just can't win afterwards. Great talent..total choke artist. He is the Anti-Montana.

Totally agree with this assessment.

Originally posted by Joecool:
For a QB that plays super safe and takes sacks if it doesn't look as wide open as it would for a college QB, Alex fluctuates far too often. He is the epitome of taking what is given but even that is narrowed down to taking nothing if the defense takes his small-ball game away...a situation most of those other QB's can overcome.

Haha, whatever you say, joe... cuz you have been right about so much over WZ time.
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by Joecool:
For a QB that plays super safe and takes sacks if it doesn't look as wide open as it would for a college QB, Alex fluctuates far too often. He is the epitome of taking what is given but even that is narrowed down to taking nothing if the defense takes his small-ball game away...a situation most of those other QB's can overcome.

Haha, whatever you say, joe... cuz you have been right about so much over WZ time.

Lol
So people really don't see the difference when they watch Alex Smith, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers play?
Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:
So people really don't see the difference when they watch Alex Smith, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers play?

They all use the dink and dunk. There's 1 similarity for you....

For your self profess NFL junky, I'm surprise you don't see that.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Aug 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM ]
Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:
So people really don't see the difference when they watch Alex Smith, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers play?

We always see Alex learning a new system, and now doing it with all new teammates. Others in the same system with familiar chemistry in receivers can look a bit different, yeah.
Alex did very well. His timing on short routes was excellent .

Charles should have a big year with Alex