Originally posted by Marvin49:Uh yes.
You are just digging the hole deeper.
I likened it to Black QBs in the NFL, not the entire civil rights movement. Even if I had, you'd still be wrong. Is that the barometer now? We base our judgements on how much the people in question have suffered. If a gay kid gets dragged behind a truck, THEN is it OK to make a big deal? If thousands die....is THAT the time to take a stand? I'd like to think we've made some progress and those things aren't necessary to do the right thing. I'm sorry you're offended, but I don't think you have any right to be.
Personal Choice? Right there....you just destroyed your entire argument. THAT is the crux of the issue. ITS NOT A CHOICE. You are gay or you are not. Gay people don't DECIDE to be gay. Many of them would NOT be gay if given the choice simply because the world is a much more fogiving place if you are not.
Your reaction is simply more evidense as to WHY this needs to be a bigger issue to begin with. Your comments show what SO MANY people think....and you are wrong. That's not the way it works.
I gotta be honest. This conversation is dissappointing. Especially in 2013.
Really dude, you're smarter than this.
Then "black QB" discussion, much like the black astronaut discussion, the black president discussion, and every other "first" accomplished by a black only exists BECAUSE of civil rights. It's the same reason why we don't compare serial murders to the holocaust.
Yes, both are terrible but when looked at in terms of scale differences emerge.
"Gay people don't choose to be gay."
Says you? I personally know plenty of women that were "gay" in high school/college, then decided to not be "gay anymore." Hell, a few of them are even married with kids.
So, whole I don't claim to be the authority on this matter, it seems to me that choosing to lay with someone of the same sex is just as much of conscious decision as choosing not to is. What did in miss where it was PROVEN that homosexuality is a DNA trait?
Man, this conversation got pretty ridiculous quickly didn't it?