Originally posted by vaden:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by vaden:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by vaden:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Are you serious? you cant be serious?
Dead serious. I've said from the start that RG3 had a dangerous arrogance about his abilities. It's how he got hurt to begin with, running with such recklessness.
Do you have any idea how the chain of command works in football? You do understand that RG3 is a competitor and withh do anything his coach asks of him? includeing putting his body in harms way?
How is it any differant than Frank Gore? Gut had a broken f**king hip and we had to pretty much take his helmet away. NFL players are competitors at the highest level. It is a coaches responsibility to see when they are too injured to play, or are hurting their team with their inability to play.
No, the player also has a responsibility to be honest and admit he's too injured to play, especially when it's clear he's hurting the team. I'm not excusing Shanahan at all, but nor do I absolve RG3 of any responsibility to do what's best for the team. He's not a robot obligated to follow Shanhan's orders. In fact, he's the one who's been pressuring the team to let him take off the brace, and he was upset they didn't let him play against Cleveland.
Im done debateing this with you. You obviously have some sort of unhealthy dislike for RG3. Like another poster said, had he pulled himself you would probably be questioning his heart and character for pulling himself.
Nope, I'd applaud him for doing what's best for the team.
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by vaden:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by vaden:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Are you serious? you cant be serious?
Dead serious. I've said from the start that RG3 had a dangerous arrogance about his abilities. It's how he got hurt to begin with, running with such recklessness.
Do you have any idea how the chain of command works in football? You do understand that RG3 is a competitor and withh do anything his coach asks of him? includeing putting his body in harms way?
How is it any differant than Frank Gore? Gut had a broken f**king hip and we had to pretty much take his helmet away. NFL players are competitors at the highest level. It is a coaches responsibility to see when they are too injured to play, or are hurting their team with their inability to play.
No, the player also has a responsibility to be honest and admit he's too injured to play, especially when it's clear he's hurting the team. I'm not excusing Shanahan at all, but nor do I absolve RG3 of any responsibility to do what's best for the team. He's not a robot obligated to follow Shanhan's orders. In fact, he's the one who's been pressuring the team to let him take off the brace, and he was upset they didn't let him play against Cleveland.
I just disagree. It's completely on the coach to notice what is going on with his freaking starting QB and realize when he is very noticeably injured.
Also the whole reason I decide to respond to you was that you said you would not feel sorry if RGIII tore his ACL because of his arrogance and pride. To me that is just a completely callous and tasteless statement on your part.
I make no apologies for not feeling sorry for a player who I think was reckless with his health and put his pride and ego above the team.
I guess you just have a twisted view on life man. Not gonna argue with you because I know it won't change your mind. But please Just think about the fact that you are sitting here being smug about the fact that a player got injured and then think about how that might reflect on you as a person. Have fun with that.
