Originally posted by Joecool:He already lost most of his money for next year. I think he is committed all in. He ain't reporting back.
He will report dude. Unless he is retiring
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Originally posted by Joecool:He already lost most of his money for next year. I think he is committed all in. He ain't reporting back.
The situation is not complex. It is simple. He just has to show up at camp, I bet all it takes to get a deal done is for him to drive up to 4949 Centennial in his Bently and knock on Baalke's door. That's it. Deal for a pay raise will be done shortly there after. Not going to camp does not change the fact that he has zero leverage. It doesn't affect the fact that he can leave after knocking on Baalke's door and never come back. The 49ers cannot physically force him to do anything he doesn't want to do, so where is the harm of showing up to headquarters? It just doesn't make sense for him to stay away unless he simply does not want to play for the 49ers, the guard position, or wants to retire.Originally posted by ubaisore:All of the speculation in this thread is interesting to read. There are two schools of thought here and it is amazing to watch it polarize...
1) He signed a contract and should honor
2) He has the right to ask for a raise
I think that the NFL is much more complicated than that. Yes he signed a contract. However, that contract could be made null by the team each year. When it was signed, it was while he was going to prove himself. That is a plus for the Niners as they gave him a chance. On the flip side, Boone has been a model player who worked hard to improve himself as a person and a player. Plus for Boone.
The difficult part is that the NFL is a short tenure job and the chance of having a career ending injury is high. I can understand the Niners wanting to conserve cap space, etc but I can also see where he wants to increase his earnings before an injury occurs.
That is why the situation has become what it is. The good news is that it hasn't gone public with either side making grand statements. Hopefully they can reach a middle ground where he feels financially covered and the team can justify the cost. I think it is clear he is being underpaid for his performance. If it was a guaranteed contract, I would be firmly in the "play it out" camp, but with the risk of injury, I do have some understanding of why he is holding out.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:Originally posted by Joecool:He already lost most of his money for next year. I think he is committed all in. He ain't reporting back.
He will report dude. Unless he is retiring
Originally posted by Joecool:
that he and other players will warn younger players to not be hasty when it comes to contract signing.
This is actually good for our front office because they may need to adjust the way they do things in terms of contracts.
Originally posted by Joecool:I think it is a test for our front office. They have been acquiring team first players and making deals that favor the team. Sooner or later, players will start to follow Boone or not make the early dumb deal. This is actually good for our front office because they may need to adjust the way they do things in terms of contracts. I'm sure if Boone comes in and ends up with us, that he and other players will warn younger players to not be hasty when it comes to contract signing.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:I am a fan of what's best for the team. I was a fan before Boone, and I'll be a fan after Boone.
I believe the stance the 49ers have regarding holdouts is in the best interest of the team, long term.
Giving into holdouts in general is not an option.
Please don't misunderstand, I believe Boone deserves to get his. But to allow him to dictate terms could cause a snowball effect that could send this organization into Browns territory in the future.
Originally posted by ubaisore:
All of the speculation in this thread is interesting to read. There are two schools of thought here and it is amazing to watch it polarize...
1) He signed a contract and should honor
2) He has the right to ask for a raise
I think that the NFL is much more complicated than that. Yes he signed a contract. However, that contract could be made null by the team each year. When it was signed, it was while he was going to prove himself. That is a plus for the Niners as they gave him a chance. On the flip side, Boone has been a model player who worked hard to improve himself as a person and a player. Plus for Boone.
The difficult part is that the NFL is a short tenure job and the chance of having a career ending injury is high. I can understand the Niners wanting to conserve cap space, etc but I can also see where he wants to increase his earnings before an injury occurs.
That is why the situation has become what it is. The good news is that it hasn't gone public with either side making grand statements. Hopefully they can reach a middle ground where he feels financially covered and the team can justify the cost. I think it is clear he is being underpaid for his performance. If it was a guaranteed contract, I would be firmly in the "play it out" camp, but with the risk of injury, I do have some understanding of why he is holding out.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:I am a fan of what's best for the team. I was a fan before Boone, and I'll be a fan after Boone.
I believe the stance the 49ers have regarding holdouts is in the best interest of the team, long term.
Giving into holdouts in general is not an option.
Please don't misunderstand, I believe Boone deserves to get his. But to allow him to dictate terms could cause a snowball effect that could send this organization into Browns territory in the future.
This!
Originally posted by ubaisore:The arguments about what he was offered and dismissed are again based on speculation. While I agree that it is in the best interests of the 49ers to not give in to holdouts (and I think it is a good strategy as well), the points about how it works businesswise are not correct. Sure, we have 2 years leverage on him and there is the chance that he has to make ZERO for those two years. The truth of the matter is that he could be a good starting left tackle in the NFL. That means that while the 49ers could "teach him a lesson", they would be losing some value as well. Again, my point is that there are two sides to this and I don't believe either are 100% correct. (not sure if I made that clear earlier).
Boone (assumption) needs to earn money. The 49ers can definitely use a very good starting guard who also has the capability to slide to tackle and perform well. My hope is that the two sides will talk, do some kind of deal that allows him to come back and sign a deal after so the team isn't giving in to a holdout. I don't see the Niners just signing him to come in and I don't see him playing out his contract as is. Sucks, but that is the reality. I see merit to both sides. If NFL contracts were guaranteed, I would be calling for his head.