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Robert Kraft says Tom Brady better than Joe Montana.

Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Thats all they had, those teams werent as good as the Giants teams that beat the Pats both times. Kicker argument is not a very good one and is played out. Dont forget if it wasnt for a dropped int in the endzone Montana would have a L on side for a super bowl, he was lucky he got another chance

How is the kicker point not a good one? So Brady is automatically going to drive down the field and get the other 30 yards to the endzone. There is a huge difference in scoring a TD than a FG and its about 35 yards of field. Montana won when he needed more than 4 pts to win. The one time Brady needed to score a TD to win in the super bowl, he lost it.
Originally posted by teylo31:
f**k tom brady. this is not even a discussion. joe cool never lost a superbowl let alone two and brady has never cemented a super bowl win like joe did in 89. three sb wins by a total of 9 points. not one of bradys super bowl wins has come on his play but his kickers leg. wen the game did come down to brady having a chance to win it he didnt deliver. case closed.


Uhhhh Thing is then Steeler Fans can say Bradshaw is as good as Montana cause he's also won 4 SB and I dont remember him losing one either... Thing you all need to realize is this though...So much has been put on by Manata bein best ever cause he won 4 SB...Now what happens if the Bengals score on 1 of those plays in SB 16 when it was the DEFENSE that stopped Cincy on a 1st and goal from the 1... What happens if J Taylor drops the TD from Montana in the SB rematch? Montans was a central piece of the team but he wasnt the only one making plays to win the SBs he had 21 other guys helping him. Just like they probably lost a chance to win another SB but Craig lost a ball and the GMen went and kicked the Game winning FG So
[ Edited by SashRoxx-1 on Aug 31, 2012 at 11:15 AM ]
Originally posted by SashRoxx-1:
Originally posted by teylo31:
f**k tom brady. this is not even a discussion. joe cool never lost a superbowl let alone two and brady has never cemented a super bowl win like joe did in 89. three sb wins by a total of 9 points. not one of bradys super bowl wins has come on his play but his kickers leg. wen the game did come down to brady having a chance to win it he didnt deliver. case closed.


Uhhhh Thing is then Steeler Fans can say Bradshaw is as good as Montana cause he's also won 4 SB and I dont remember him losing one either... Thing you all need to realize is this though...So much has been put on by Manata bein best ever cause he won 4 SB...Now what happens if the Bengals score on 1 of those plays in SB 16 when it was the DEFENSE that stopped Cincy on a 1st and goal from the 1... What happens if J Taylor drops the TD from Montana in the SB rematch? Montans was a central piece of the team but he wasnt the only one making plays to win the SBs he had 21 other guys helping him.

coulda, woulda, shoulda.... But did't!! Montana is the greatest hands down. Brady wouldn't have survived then. It is what it is and it is not a debate.
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Brady will probably be remembered as better. Simply because there are so many Boston homers in the media and he is a more recent player and people always think whoever the most recent is is the GOAT. People are already strating to make LeBron and MJ comparisons after one lousy title.
Montana doesnt lose Super Bowls.

Montana doesnt throw picks in Super Bowls.

Montana played in an era where the QB was not protected by the league.

Brady has already ruined his chance.
Originally posted by TX9R:
Brady will probably be remembered as better. Simply because there are so many Boston homers in the media and he is a more recent player and people always think whoever the most recent is is the GOAT. People are already strating to make LeBron and MJ comparisons after one lousy title.

I think Boston has more haters than homers.
Montana never faltered in the Super Bowl. Period. Bring in the next challenger.
robert kraft can suck a duck. 4-0 in Superbowls. whats bradys record?
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
robert kraft can suck a duck. 4-0 in Superbowls. whats bradys record?

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Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Thats all they had, those teams werent as good as the Giants teams that beat the Pats both times. Kicker argument is not a very good one and is played out. Dont forget if it wasnt for a dropped int in the endzone Montana would have a L on side for a super bowl, he was lucky he got another chance

The Broncos team that we demolished 55-10 had the No. 1 ranked defense in the NFL that year and a HOF QB. How can you say the NY Giants circa 2011 that finished 9-7 was better than the '89 Broncos? The Miami team that we throttled 38-16 in '84 had the No. 1 offense in the NFL and the No. 7 defense and a HOF QB. You're saying that the NY Giants of 2007 and 2011 were better than those teams?

The 49ers had to win against very good teams in an era where teams were stacked. The Giants, Bears, Redskins in the 80s were dominant and we beat them more than they beat us to get to 4 SBs. If you had flaws in your team - like being dead last in rushing or bottom 5 in total defense - you weren't sniffing the SB in the 80s. Now teams win the SB despite having these serious flaws. You can argue that Brady is better because he's led his team to 5 SBs in an era where teams aren't stacked ... but I frankly think that cuts both ways. That means Brady's Patriots were beating weak, flawed teams to reach the SB, whereas Montana's 49ers had to go through the same 3-4 teams (all with multiple HOFers and SB titles) to do so. I'll take the QB that actually wins games against stacked teams over the QB whose resume includes 3 point wins against Jake Delhomme and Donovan McNabb and a road to the SB involving wins over the Tebow-led Broncos, the Flacco-led Ravens, and a loss to the 9-7 Giants.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Whats he supposed to say. It's homer. Who cares.
this lol
LOL didn't Kraft also say this before Superbowl XLII?
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
LOL didn't Kraft also say this before Superbowl XLII?
LOL, well he had too, with all the talk about how u cant spell Elite w/o Eli.
Seriously, what do you expect him to say about his quarterback?
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
robert kraft can suck a duck. 4-0 in Superbowls. whats bradys record?

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He's been to 1 more super bowl than Montana....