AJ Jenkins is a 49er

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Also, I should say that I very much hope I'm wrong. I understand I'm being bold when I say I don't expect Jenkins to be more than a #3 at least initially.

But let me warn this, to say those who don't like Jenkins are stupid and wrong would presume that Jenkins will automatically be a success and that Baalke will be right on almost every pick he ever makes. That's obviously not realistic.

Around the league, opinions on Jenkins were MASSIVELY VARIED. Most either thought he wasn't that special, or they loved him. I fell into the first category. I thought he was a guy who would provide good depth and play well on STs. I could be wrong and will happily be the first to admit it if I am. I just personally did not like the value. I have had my say in what I expect from Jenkins, but I will never write a player off even if I have tempered expectations for them.

Some players surprise and despite the expectation that they won't carry over their college numbers, they wind up doing well. I have very reserved expectations, but we will see. Hopefully he proves me totally wrong.

To me this is isn't about how good he will or won't be. Even if he ends up being great, if we could have gotten him later then why draft him so early? It just doesn't make sense. Trade down. Or pick someone else and then trade back up to get him where his value lands him. Drafts are all a crapshoot, so the best you can do is try and get the most value at each pick. We did not do that today.

You are assuming that no one would have traded up or drafted him before the Niners, if they traded down. Jenkins may have not been desired by some of you, but insiders say that he was desired by other WR needy teams. Even Baalke said you would be surprised how popular Jenkins was.

If you like a player, take him. If you don't, you may not like the results.

Trading back with the Vikings would of had us draft third in the 2nd round. The Rams will probably take an OL and the Colts will take Fleener....then it would of been us.

Again, that is assuming no one would have traded up for him. No one knows, and no one will ever know, since Jenkins was taken at 30.

So let that "someone else" draft him too high. No reason to reach that far, is all we're saying... I don't understand why that is such a difficult concept to understand. Perhaps the new rookie pay scale is playing into this. Not as much risk for grabbing guys early, so why not if you really like a player.

How is it a reach if that is the value you have on a player? Is it so hard to understand that every team has their own board with their own value placed on a player. It isn't like there is some big objective board that is true for every team. A lot of team's boards had Jenkins high, and the Niners were one of those teams. Seemed to work out last year with a lot of players, Smith, Culliver, Hunter, Miller, perhaps Kilgore. It's only a reach if you are drafting a guy on your board that isn't slotted for that position in the draft.

What people are saying on here is that they don't like Baalke and Harbaugh's board, which is fine. They like doubters and like making them eat crow when they are going to NFC Championship games and winning Executive of the Year awards.

Originally posted by Pick6:

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:

Originally posted by mike:

Originally posted by jreff22:
that was kind of what every person was complaining about.....remember

there is a reason why people wanted Hill, Fleener, Randle, Streeter..etc etc...a big tall body

Like I've been saying all offseason, people on here overrate height. Victor Cruz is only 6 feet tall. Manningham isn't tall either. These guys are play-makers and that's what your team needs.

I think I trust someone who watches film and knows how to scout over people who just pick the tall guys and watch 5 minute youtube highlights .

Its not just about height, I agree. The ability to run crisp routes and get separation and have good hands, also helps in scoring.

THIS. All of a sudden if a player isn't 6'4+ he isn't a red zone target. Hands, Route Running and separation are more important than size.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
I don't know enough about Jenkins or scouting to make a prediction how this turns out or whether or not there's value but I definetily see what they're trying to accomplish here.

Greg Jennings, Jeremy Maclin. This kind of receiver is a staple to the WCO.

I'm fine with the pick and just hope he lives up to what they see in him. Time to find that guard now.

Originally posted by sfout:

Originally posted by afflecksloverboy:

Originally posted by J49er:
Blame WR coach Morton..its his inability to evaluate wr talent (see Ronald Johnson)..He fell in love with Jenkins in the pre draft visit and convinced Harbaugh thus convincing front office that AJ Jenkins was the man to choose over Fleener and Hill, Alshon, Sanu, Randle, Quick and every other receiver in the draft..

source?

Seriously tell us the time of the conference call and I'll listen for this that he expressly mentions that Morton told him to pick Jenkins, all I heard was "our scouts had the board laid out this year and it worked out the way we wanted"

Originally posted by Furlow:
A first round pick, even at #30, should contribute right away. I don't see Jenkins doing that. It just makes no sense when there were guys available who could have contributed, even started, right away - to take a guy for depth or to develop.

If we didn't draft a guard who would win the job outright nobody we could've picked at #30 would contribute significantly in year 1. We have NO needs right now, we currently have 3 players capable of starting at RG so naturally the FO is thinking to bolster other parts of the roster before looking into filling the RG need.

If we had drafted Stephen Hill, Rueben Randle, Kendall Wright, they would be in the same boat as Jenkins, competing for time against Ginn, Moss, and Williams.

Had we drafted Fleener he would've been competing against Walker and Byham

Quit whining just to whine, this team is loaded with talent, no pick from this years draft will contribute in a massive amount of playing time.

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
How is it a reach if that is the value you have on a player? Is it so hard to understand that every team has their own board with their own value placed on a player. It isn't like there is some big objective board that is true for every team.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by hateroids84:
Well with the addition of AJ at least Kyle Williams should be out. Pretty much the most positive spin I can put on this...

No. We still lack a WR corps. We will keep at least 5. I say KW makes the team. Just keep him away from returns....

Originally posted by susweel:

He does remind me a little of Jerry Rice the way he runs. This kid is gonna be special.

Originally posted by Baugh_Area:

Originally posted by susweel:
He does remind me a little of Jerry Rice the way he runs. This kid is gonna be special.

If Susweel likes him you know it's a good pick!

Originally posted by Baugh_Area:

Originally posted by susweel:
He does remind me a little of Jerry Rice the way he runs. This kid is gonna be special.

If Susweel likes him you know it's a good pick!

Originally posted by afflecksloverboy:
my argument is regarding your first post in this tree.

listening to MM earlier, he said this was a pick with a look to the future of the WR corp.