Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Okay that is what I was looking for. He may not teach the tree, but that doesn't mean the player isn't really running it??? Everyone calls the words in a tree something different, but a go is still a streak, and short in is also called a drag. Crabtree ran routes that are in the tree, even if they were not calling them that. Really in the nfl it's more complex, plays depend on the defensive coverage! Crabtree might run a curl to the inside, or he might run one to outside depend on the coverage of the defense, both him and alex have to be on the same page, and know which way Crabtree will end up going, so he can put the ball on that spot.
I think Jenkins has what we're looking for, he's smooth in and out of his breaks, very good hips and change of direction and body control. Sure, he needs more power, but that is what an nfl strength program is for, remember how small Alex Smith look and how he's filled out. If he can get off the jam that is all I care about, He can be used to run a Cb out of the play like ginn, rather than try to block the Cb out of it.
Size is overrated if you don't back that up. Jerry Rice weight was 200 pounds, to small, and to slow, still became the goat. It's not about the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. A.J. got the heart.
I never implied Jenkins was not good. He is a small shifty kid who can work underneath and take the top off in need be....we hope. Can he add weight, its a possibility but some people can only add so much to their frame. I think he will get stronger by maturing more into a man but I don't see him getting much thicker. Look at guys like Desean....he may be a lil heavier but he's still "thin".
Size is not overrated, guys like Fitz, Megatron, Green, Andre Johnson, Julio, Demaryius Thomas...etc.etc. DB's are getting bigger and as such the bigger WR's are becoming a premium on beating them. That is what most if not all wanted going into the draft. A big tall kid who could thicken out a bit and out muscle defenders and go up and fight for balls. Yes we lacked speed but we also lacked a red-zone threat outsize of Vernon. We went out and got Moss who fits that mold but its nothing longer then a 2 year experiment. Once Moss goes we still need that big guy who can create that kind of damage. Yes there are small WR's who play great and beat guys but its the big guys who consistently do the damage on a weekly basis. And Hill had both the size and speed with blocking knowledge and that's why a lot of people (myself) included wanted him. If the idea was to have the pick sit, he could've sat all year and brushed up on his catching and route running skills...but still gave us that "monster" threat on the field.
We will be drafting another WR either this year or next....if we don't go with a big body I would be very surprised.
Okay Good I like what you said. We've had problem's on 3rd down, we also needed a guy who could play in the slot in the future, Manningham is on a 2 year deal. I think that's what A.J.'s future is the slot guy, guy like ginn we can run the jet play with. I think the coachs maybe have a plan to find another big wr in the 2013 draft.
Here are some possible big targets, Height order
Your right I forgot about Justin, he's on Tennessee with Rogers, he's the guy who took the knee injury right?? I remember watching that game, that was against Florida. He just caught it high and blew it out.
He's like baby Moss, I doubt we land him unless teams worry about the knee, or we trade up to grab him, i doubt we got the ammo, we need a future at saftey, and center!
0. Justin Hunter, Tennessee, 6-4/200 1. Marquess Wilson, Washington State, 6-4/183 2. *Keenan Allen, California, 6-3/206 3. *Da'Rick Rogers, Tennessee, 6-3/208 4. Terrance Williams, Baylor, 6-3/205 5. Keenan Davis, Iowa, 6-3/215
Fixed, Anyone of these guys I would take over Hill.
[ Edited by TheGoldDiggerrrr on Sep 13, 2012 at 7:05 PM ]