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Saints ran a 'Bounty' Program - Now with 100% More Suspensions!

Originally posted by thechamber52:
is that our FRANCHISE player?

lol, do you see dreads?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You could tell in some of those playoffs they were trying to take out the QB's. Like slam them to the ground an try to hurt them. Not just tackle them. I thought it was obvious to see. But it's just a matter of coming out now.

I feel like that happens regardless of bounty. It's just the institutionalization, and more importantly, the money that is big here.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
wonder what the value on Alex was in that preseason game

$0.

lol

Seriously, though. Why would they even want to hurt a QB in the preseason when the game doesn't count and they didn't even think they'd see that team all year since the team was supposed to suck and they weren't on their regular season schedule? They just blitzed us to be dicks.
If this is all it sounds to be, I expect to see some VERY serious action taken by the league. Such as; one year suspension (or longer) for Greg Williams. Loss of draft picks by the Saints. GM Mickey Loomis fired. The team fined a 7 figure amount, etc.

There two issues; violation of the CBA, and deliberate intent to injure. The first requires a financial penalty, the second a penalty that will make the franchise less competitive for a couple of years. Williams will be dealt with separately.

Gonna be interesting. Goodell ain't happy.
That finger pointing franchise deserved this. They will be good again next year (if they sign Brees), but they are definately going to be feeling the affects of this for a while.
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this is what football is... trying to kill each other isn't it?
Originally posted by MILFS:
this is what football is... trying to kill each other isn't it?

Uh... No. It's about discipline and intensity. Best way I can describe my experience with the game.

Anyways, I hope they get their cap cut in half.
Anything less than a 1 year ban for Gregg Williams is nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

Lets not forget we now get to face a Jeff Fisher team twice a year which means we'll be seeing a lot more cheap shots in the NFC West. He promotes dirty football just like his minions Williams and Schwartz.
Originally posted by dj43:
If this is all it sounds to be, I expect to see some VERY serious action taken by the league. Such as; one year suspension (or longer) for Greg Williams. Loss of draft picks by the Saints. GM Mickey Loomis fired. The team fined a 7 figure amount, etc.

There two issues; violation of the CBA, and deliberate intent to injure. The first requires a financial penalty, the second a penalty that will make the franchise less competitive for a couple of years. Williams will be dealt with separately.

Gonna be interesting. Goodell ain't happy.

Yup . . . glad it ain't us.
A lot of good it did Williams in the divisional round. His defense got punked.
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lol I hope this dick gets banned from the NFL. He ran it under the redskins too
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82759301/article/williams-reportedly-had-pay-for-play-system-as-skins-dc?module=HP11_headline_stack

I cant stand the guy. Remember when we let Aubrayo Franklin walk and he signed with the Saints, Williams said "Willis is crying in his milk" then this year we have the #1 defense, a much better defense than them, Franklin doesnt do s**t and we beat them in the NFC championship game
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Originally posted by MILFS:
this is what football is... trying to kill each other isn't it?

That's the argument being made by a number of current and former players who just don't get it.

Saying go out there and hit somebody is one thing.

Paying players outside their contract to hit someone and hurt them is completely different.

The piss poor arguments being made, and Brian Mitchell here in DC was making it all morning on talk radio, that you can't penalize the saints because "that's football" is akin to saying you can never charge anyone with prostitution because "they were just having sex, thats what happens during sex." Its an illusory correlation.

Goodell's letter quoting the league memo that goes out every year reminding them of the illegal nature of augmenting player contracts and paying players performance bonuses (whether it be for positive plays like INTs or sacks or negative plays like "bounties") are ALL against league rules.
[ Edited by RKab on Mar 3, 2012 at 8:28 AM ]
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Originally posted by jacklegniner:
Everything is still to new about the situation. It is kind of getting blown out proportion by the Media, at least from what I've heard. I'm sure this stuff does happen in other organizations and from what I've heard the money amount is very little........

BUT, the principle of the matter still is bad. If the NFL has a rule, it should be followed. I read the Saints were told to stop and they didn't. The ESPN article makes it sound like Payton plays by his own rules and doesn't care what others think. However much of it is true, WHO KNOWS... But to make a side game out of injuring players or Congratulating them for knocking guys out, is dirty.

If it was players making side bets there would be no way to control that. But if it comes from the top down...from Williams, that kind of encourages an entire team to act a certain way. It's not about the money. It's about wanting to win the right way.

Blown out of proportion? Are you kidding me? The league tried to bury this with a late afternoon Friday press release because they knew this was an issue.

Read the earlier post tying the Redskins, under Greg Williams, hit on Peyton Manning that Tony Dungy believes led to his neck problems. This practice is being tied to taking one of the biggest stars in the game out of action for a year and maybe taking away his career.

You also have news that the Saints had bounties out DURING THE SUPERBOWL. You've got GMs told to stop a practice and ignoring the league, head coach's agents providing money for the bounties, one of the top D coordinators in the league "leaving" the team prior to this when they knew about the league's investigation, and within hours the Washington Post comes out with news that Williams did the same thing with the Redskins. This is the smokingest of guns.

This thing makes spygate look like child's play.
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Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
IMO every team does or has done this at one time or another.

The NFL disagrees with you since they investigated the Saints and have tens of thousands of pages of documents to back it up.
I hope they get the book thrown at them. Burn baby burn.