What did Houston see in Carr when they picked him #1

Well since it's possible the Carr Crash may be our starting QB next year, I would just like to know if there was anything good about him before he got in the NFL? Any chance Harbaugh can coach him up? I remember when he was Eli's back up he actually looked pretty good, but when we played the Panthers and Alex got injured this guy came in and straight up lost us the game pretty much. Anybody?

same thing we saw in Alex Smith

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

That's not real descriptive bruh

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

That's not real descriptive bruh

But its exactly what I was going to say as well.

dollar signs from all the uneducated fans who love to support QB's who look like Franchise QB's being picked #1

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

That's not real descriptive bruh

lol. Here's a scouting report from 2001:

Hindsight being 20-20, I bolded what could have been indicators of his future failure.

Positives: Excellent size. Good all-around athlete. Top competitor. Legitimate tough guy. Has tremendous poise. Really stands in against the rush. Well respected by his teammates and coaches. Mature and confident without being cocky. Has improved by leaps and bounds and became a franchise-type player on the college level in '01. Even in Fresno State's three losses, he put up big numbers and got his team into the endzone. Excellent passer with a very strong and generally very accurate arm. Has good timing and anticipation of receiver. Makes some incredible throws and can really thread the needle. Can throw every pass in the book and really zing the deep out. Sets up well and has a lightning-quick release. Generally throws a nice, tight spiral. Can throw the touch passes. Reads coverages and shows good judgment. During the '01 regular season had a 42-7 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Played very well against teams from major conferences and in the biggest and best games on his team's schedule. Made his teammates better players and got the ball into the endzone. Had a strong practice week at the Senior Bowl.

Negatives: Semi-sidearm, unusual, three-quarter throwing motion. Has a very low release point, about shoulder level. Will get balls batted down, which could be huge problem, since so many teams use so many three- and five-step drops. Is basically a line-drive passer and might be better off if he put more air under some of his throws. Is not quite as mobile as you would like and is not a super athlete and improviser. Average scambler and is no Donovan McNabb as a runner. Can be inconsistent throwing the ball. Will force some and make some bad reads. Was brought along beautifully by the Fresno State staff and has not faced a lot of adversity, so you cannot be sure how well he can handle it. Did bounce back from the Ohio State disaster in 2000. In Fresno State's two regular-season losses in '01, he was in a position to lead John Elway-type comebacks but did not do it.

Summary: Has a chance to become a premier NFL quarterback if his release point does not lead to too many problems and he is brought along and utilized correctly. Could be the type of player you can build a team around if he is developed correctly.

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Summary: Has a chance to become a premier NFL quarterback if his release point does not lead to too many problems and he is brought along and utilized correctly. Could be the type of player you can build a team around if he is developed correctly.

He wasn't and he has never recovered from that.

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

This


And I have said this before and will say it again. Carr and Alex are pretty much the same dude, the only difference is Carr is just farther along in the process.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

This


And I have said this before and will say it again. Carr and Alex are pretty much the same dude, the only difference is Carr is just farther along in the process.

So when Smith reaches year 9 in the NFL.....he will look like Carr.....a good sideline QB

[ Edited by 80849er4life on Feb 8, 2011 at 17:14:34 ]

Originally posted by 80849er4life:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

This


And I have said this before and will say it again. Carr and Alex are pretty much the same dude, the only difference is Carr is just farther along in the process.

So when Smith reaches year 9 in the NFL.....he will look like Carr.....a good sideling QB.

Well, that's kinda what he is right now..

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by 80849er4life:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

This


And I have said this before and will say it again. Carr and Alex are pretty much the same dude, the only difference is Carr is just farther along in the process.

So when Smith reaches year 9 in the NFL.....he will look like Carr.....a good sideling QB.

Well, that's kinda what he is right now..

Right now he's a sh**y starting QB, we need him to be a good backup QB.

He failed bc he didn't have Harbaugh

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
same thing we saw in Alex Smith

That's not real descriptive bruh

lol. Here's a scouting report from 2001:

Hindsight being 20-20, I bolded what could have been indicators of his future failure.

Positives: Excellent size. Good all-around athlete. Top competitor. Legitimate tough guy. Has tremendous poise. Really stands in against the rush. Well respected by his teammates and coaches. Mature and confident without being cocky. Has improved by leaps and bounds and became a franchise-type player on the college level in '01. Even in Fresno State's three losses, he put up big numbers and got his team into the endzone. Excellent passer with a very strong and generally very accurate arm. Has good timing and anticipation of receiver. Makes some incredible throws and can really thread the needle. Can throw every pass in the book and really zing the deep out. Sets up well and has a lightning-quick release. Generally throws a nice, tight spiral. Can throw the touch passes. Reads coverages and shows good judgment. During the '01 regular season had a 42-7 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Played very well against teams from major conferences and in the biggest and best games on his team's schedule. Made his teammates better players and got the ball into the endzone. Had a strong practice week at the Senior Bowl.

Negatives: Semi-sidearm, unusual, three-quarter throwing motion. Has a very low release point, about shoulder level. Will get balls batted down, which could be huge problem, since so many teams use so many three- and five-step drops. Is basically a line-drive passer and might be better off if he put more air under some of his throws. Is not quite as mobile as you would like and is not a super athlete and improviser. Average scambler and is no Donovan McNabb as a runner. Can be inconsistent throwing the ball. Will force some and make some bad reads. Was brought along beautifully by the Fresno State staff and has not faced a lot of adversity, so you cannot be sure how well he can handle it. Did bounce back from the Ohio State disaster in 2000. In Fresno State's two regular-season losses in '01, he was in a position to lead John Elway-type comebacks but did not do it.

Summary: Has a chance to become a premier NFL quarterback if his release point does not lead to too many problems and he is brought along and utilized correctly. Could be the type of player you can build a team around if he is developed correctly.

What a horrible year for QB's in the 02 draft Carr overall and Joey ballgame 3rd to the Lions Ramsey went 32nd to Washington

IMO three guys who needed to sit a year or two and learn the nfl game and were thrown in to start for each crappy team Carr was sacked 76 times I think it broke his brain

3rd round
Josh McCown Arizona

4th round
David Garrard Jacksonville
Rohan Davey NE

5th round
Randy Fasani Carolina
Kurt Kittner Atlanta
Brandon Doman SF
Craig Nall GB

6th round
JT O'Turnover Saints

7th round
Seth Burford SD
Jeff Kelly Seattle
Ronald Curry Oakland
Wes Pate Baltimore

He was the consensus number one QB that year and it wasn't close. Like Alex he was asked to do too much too soon with no help. But he took the worst beating ever those first few years and just got gun shy. His problem is mental and will never change because of all the sacks. Like any other prospect I think he could have been good if he sat the first year or two instead of being asked to be the franchise with no help.

Originally posted by TX9R:
He was the consensus number one QB that year and it wasn't close. Like Alex he was asked to do too much too soon with no help. But he took the worst beating ever those first few years and just got gun shy. His problem is mental and will never change because of all the sacks. Like any other prospect I think he could have been good if he sat the first year or two instead of being asked to be the franchise with no help.

sacked two hundred and si si si si si si si si si sixty si si si si si si si si si si six times in th th th th th th th th th the head