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OFFICIAL Blaine Gabbert Thread

Yes, he's overrated, but the hate on here of him is irrational.

When Luck went back to Stanford, the Draft World simply HAD to put a face on another QB. The more "elite" talent at the top of a draft keeps people tuned in. So they create the hype. I know it... you know it... there is no QB worth a top 10 selection. Gabbert probably will become a good starting QB... he has the arm, enough mobility, and intelligence. Should he go early to a team as QB needy for a starter as we are? No... he should go in the mid/late 1st round... but he won't. If Mark Sanchez can go #5 overall (and from a trade up at that?), then Gabbert probably goes top 10 too. Just accept it... and hope it's not to us. And if it is to us? Accept that decision made by Harbaugh... or the hate and irrational dislike following will be all the more reminiscent of what we just went through.
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.
[ Edited by KowboyKiller on Feb 17, 2011 at 6:42 PM ]
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Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.

I hate when experts just throw out names with no context behind it, Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are completely different players so not sure how Mayock comes to that conclusion.
[ Edited by Jcool on Feb 17, 2011 at 9:52 PM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.

I hate when experts just throw out names with no context behind it, Matt Ryan and Same Bradford are completely different players so not sure how Mayock comes to that conclusion.

Yeah me neither, he says nothing as to why he reminds him of those QBs. I really respect Mayock, a hell of alot more than those ESPN balloonheads Kiper and McShay, and it's kind of odd he would just throw something out like that.
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Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.

I hate when experts just throw out names with no context behind it, Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford are completely different players so not sure how Mayock comes to that conclusion.

Yeah me neither, he says nothing as to why he reminds him of those QBs. I really respect Mayock, a hell of alot more than those ESPN balloonheads Kiper and McShay, and it's kind of odd he would just throw something out like that.

If Gabbert is a combo of Ryan and Bradford then the Panthers need to draft him and he should be #1 on every draftboard. I don't see it though he hasn't lead an under talented team to bowl victories while putting up impressive numbers like Matt Ryan and he not a super accurate quarterback like Sam Bradford.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.

Can't wait to hear what the Gabbert-haters will say in response to this.
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.

Can't wait to hear what the Gabbert-haters will say in response to this.

I don't hate Gabbert, but to me - he is nothin' like either one of those players. Mayock has made plenty of mistakes himself. I think Gabbert is a 1st round pick, somewhere in the 10-15 range - no where close to being a top 5 pick.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Mike Mayock talks draft

Interesting.

Quote:
MIKE MAYOCK: I like Gabbert a lot. He can throw. He’s a bigger kid than I think everybody thinks. I’ve got more homework to do with him especially football IQ wise and off the field. He had a couple of bad games. And I think it was a Nebraska tape, he was like 18 for 42 if I remember. I think it was just a bad game.
But if you put the tape on, you realize the kid didn’t realize he had a second to throw the football. Nebraska’s getting home with three and four defensive linemen. Didn’t even have to blitz. They were killing him.
So you’ve got to take with a grain of salt some of the poor performances of Gabbert. And I’ve probably seen at least seven of his games purely on tape. He reminds me of the guys that have done well the last couple of years. He reminds me of Bradford. He reminds me of Matt Ryan.
If you look at the last three years, NFL teams have done a really good job with their first round quarterbacks. It’s been like six hits in a row with no bust. Which probably means we’re due for a couple of busts this year.

Can't wait to hear what the Gabbert-haters will say in response to this.

I don't hate Gabbert, but to me - he is nothin' like either one of those players. Mayock has made plenty of mistakes himself. I think Gabbert is a 1st round pick, somewhere in the 10-15 range - no where close to being a top 5 pick.

Even Walsh made mistakes in the draft, which lets you know how inexact a science it really is. All a scout/personnel man can do is look at the talent and project a guy based on that...it's almost impossible to correctly factor in all of the intangibles (will the guy work hard, is he a warrior, does he have the mental capacity to learn an NFL playbook, can he push aside personal problems and focus on football, can he stay healthy, is he surrounded by the right coaching staff, the right talent, is he in the right system for his skill-set, etc., etc., etc.).

There's just so much that can go wrong with young players, that guys like Mayock, Kiper, McShay, Baalke, Bill Walsh, MadDog, OTC, you name it, are going to be wrong more times than they are right.

But, when guys like Mayock et al, break down film, and they come away impressed with what they see on tape, it means something (it doesn't mean everything...but it means something). It obviously doesn't mean the guy's an automatic pro-bowler (given the factors mentioned above), but it usually means the guy has a talent level worthy of a high pick. The rest....who knows?

So I don't trust that Mayock will be 100% right about everyone, but I do trust that his ability to break down tape and come away with the right grade for a prospect is vastly superior to anyone on this forum or any other fan site. So if he says this kid is good and that Gabbert reminds him of Bradford/Ryan, I'm not going to argue...but that's me.

And for the record, even though I'd prefer Quinn, Miller or even Peterson at #7, I think Gabbert will be the pick.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Feb 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM ]
I wonder if all these Gabbert jock riders have even watched him play. He's wildly inaccurate and makes Brett Favre like crazy decisions at key points during the game. Thows the wild interception that kills your team and loses the game. This is the most overrated guy I've seen on the WZ. What do people like? That he is 6'5"? It certainly can't be the decision making or accuracy.


[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Feb 18, 2011 at 6:42 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I wonder if all these Gabbert jock riders have even watched him play. He's wildly inaccurate and makes Brett Favre like crazy decisions at key points during the game. Thows the wild interception that kills your team and loses the game. This is the most overrated guy I've seen on the WZ. What do people like? That he is 6'5"? It certainly can't be the decision making or accuracy.



You have nothing nice to say, ever. Lol
Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I wonder if all these Gabbert jock riders have even watched him play. He's wildly inaccurate and makes Brett Favre like crazy decisions at key points during the game. Thows the wild interception that kills your team and loses the game. This is the most overrated guy I've seen on the WZ. What do people like? That he is 6'5"? It certainly can't be the decision making or accuracy.



You have nothing nice to say, ever. Lol

I'm just calling overrated when I see it in a weak QB class.
Agreed but in all honesty I have never seen you post anything positive. Glass half empty kind of guy?
[ Edited by 49ersNoKaOi on Feb 18, 2011 at 6:49 PM ]
Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
Agreed but in all honesty I have never seen you post anything positive. Glass half empty kind of guy?

he calls is as it is and he is right most of the time
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
Agreed but in all honesty I have never seen you post anything positive. Glass half empty kind of guy?

he calls is as it is and he is right most of the time

IYO.