Originally posted by jojomellon:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Who cares, look at the direction he has Cleveland pointed in. Besides, we're not debating him as GM, we're debating him as head coach. So far all I've seen you do is shoot down potential HCs because you don't want to go back to the WCO or whatever? What's your better idea, stick with Coach Singlecell?
???? I wasnt saying his drafting was good or bad, just showing you some data. Plenty of people are discussing him as GM. Never shot down a potential coach solely based on the absurd notion that returning to the west coast offense will bring greatness. Maybe youre thinking of someone else.
No I just seen you dissing Gruden also. They might not be 100% perfect, but they'd be a hell of a lot better than we have right now and both probably get us back to the playoffs. Holmgren can still be the head personnel guy and not be the GM who is solely picking players, he can still have that authority if he wanted that and not have to worry about the GM side of things 100%.
It's not absurd either, that attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. You're saying it's absurd to want a coach who runs an offense that we have tons of film on that just happens to be laying around in the old team security vault. You're saying it's absurd to want a coach that can be replaced by another coach that can keep the same system in place. Since we've gotten away from a WCO style head coach, we've dealt with 8 coordinators in the last 8 years I believe. That's pathetic, and you'll never win with that lack of continuity. The problem with a defensive HC is that when your offense does well, people want to promote your OC as their HC and then you're stuck looking for another system. That's one of the factors that completely f**ked us over.
BTW the 2 best teams in this s**tty division run the WCO. THe 2 best teamS in the NFC(Philly, GB) run the WCO. Plenty of playoff teams still run the WCO succesfully, and they do well with it. Out of the 6 projected NFC playoff teams, 3 of them run the WCO.