Would Alex Smith even re-sign if offered??

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Regardless of what happens the rest of this season Alex Smith isn't getting re-signed. The team will have options to upgrade the QB position in the offseason and will get severely ridiculed in the media if it passes on those options in order to go into year 7 of the Alex Smith project.

This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense.

The offseason was spent surrounding Alex Smith with better talent; bringing back the same OC for consistency; and pumping up his confidence by singing him praises in the media about his new found swag and leadership abilities.

Despite that he has failed to lead the team. Most importantly he's failed himself in not playing well enough to secure a new contract with the team and to remain a starter in this league after this season.

When he goes I hope he takes the delusional cultists masking as Niner fans with him.

First of all, calling a sizeable percentage of Niner fans and members of this forum "delusional cultists" is offensive, unpleasant and inaccurate. Having a different opinion from you doesnt make others delusional. And claiming that such people are "masking as Niner fans" is an unpleasant and judgemental thing to say. As well as being completely wrong.

"This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense." This is total bull, a very arrogant claim without foundation.

To be charitable, I assume that you are either very young or trolling, or a PBM trying to cause trouble. Hopefully you will get warned for this post.

Regardless, there is clearly no point in discussing the team with you.

My point of contention with this thread is that it's based on the inference that Alex Smith would/should leave the team because he's been either mistreated or inadequetaly supported by the team.

It's part of a continued pattern of Alex Smith supporters who believe that his success as a player isn't based on his own abilities, but the ability of those around him. That is putting the fandom of the player before fandom of the team.

There is no objective argument that can be made that Alex Smith is worthy of a new contract, therefore his fans are delusional.

This is the NFL, Alex Smith will be judged on the standards of the league and compared to his peers.

Case in point, if an inconsistent 1st rd QB like Rex Grossman can get cut from his team despite leading them to 13-3 record and Super Bowl appearance; while having 7 games with a 100 + QB rating, one of them a perfect 148, then Alex Smith will be get the axe for not making the playoffs and playing inconsistent.

That's a reality and fact based observation.

Well said. Mind you, his supporters have been clamoring about his supporting cast's deficiencies since day 1. He has an all-pro RB and TE in his arsenal, not to mention an up and coming star in Crabtree. It's become quite comical, actually.

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
I dont think Alex would start for another team in the NFL. Lets face it our #2 had more success in this league and is very much considered a bum in the league and his drafted team waited way to long to get rid of, ala Harrington... Sounds familiar dont it

And people can see that Smith is the better player.

Thing that you aren't mentioning when you mention Harrington is that Harrington was stuck behind one of the worst Lines in the NFL and the Lions didn't help the guy out. Hmmmmm, maybe OLines ARE important...



I think Smith may get a Line in front of him that can protect him at some point and don't be surprised if he ends up in Minnesota next year. Childress could do pretty well for Smith if the Redskins don't go after him. Shannahan only has McNabb for another season, so that would give him time to groom Smith to be their future.

It's funny how everyone craps all over Smith yet can admit that we did the guy no favors.

I hate it, but I would laugh my ass off if Smith came back with a huge chip on his shoulder and PWNED us every time he played against us.

It's serve a lot of us right. You all know who you are.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
I dont think Alex would start for another team in the NFL. Lets face it our #2 had more success in this league and is very much considered a bum in the league and his drafted team waited way to long to get rid of, ala Harrington... Sounds familiar dont it

And people can see that Smith is the better player.

Thing that you aren't mentioning when you mention Harrington is that Harrington was stuck behind one of the worst Lines in the NFL and the Lions didn't help the guy out. Hmmmmm, maybe OLines ARE important...



I think Smith may get a Line in front of him that can protect him at some point and don't be surprised if he ends up in Minnesota next year. Childress could do pretty well for Smith if the Redskins don't go after him. Shannahan only has McNabb for another season, so that would give him time to groom Smith to be their future.

It's funny how everyone craps all over Smith yet can admit that we did the guy no favors.

I hate it, but I would laugh my ass off if Smith came back with a huge chip on his shoulder and PWNED us every time he played against us.

It's serve a lot of us right. You all know who you are.

~Ceadder

I would swear you are Smith's family member or something. Just curious on what it would take for you to realize that Smith is basura?

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Regardless of what happens the rest of this season Alex Smith isn't getting re-signed. The team will have options to upgrade the QB position in the offseason and will get severely ridiculed in the media if it passes on those options in order to go into year 7 of the Alex Smith project.

This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense.

The offseason was spent surrounding Alex Smith with better talent; bringing back the same OC for consistency; and pumping up his confidence by singing him praises in the media about his new found swag and leadership abilities.

Despite that he has failed to lead the team. Most importantly he's failed himself in not playing well enough to secure a new contract with the team and to remain a starter in this league after this season.

When he goes I hope he takes the delusional cultists masking as Niner fans with him.

First of all, calling a sizeable percentage of Niner fans and members of this forum "delusional cultists" is offensive, unpleasant and inaccurate. Having a different opinion from you doesnt make others delusional. And claiming that such people are "masking as Niner fans" is an unpleasant and judgemental thing to say. As well as being completely wrong.

"This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense." This is total bull, a very arrogant claim without foundation.

To be charitable, I assume that you are either very young or trolling, or a PBM trying to cause trouble. Hopefully you will get warned for this post.

Regardless, there is clearly no point in discussing the team with you.

My point of contention with this thread is that it's based on the inference that Alex Smith would/should leave the team because he's been either mistreated or inadequetaly supported by the team.

It's part of a continued pattern of Alex Smith supporters who believe that his success as a player isn't based on his own abilities, but the ability of those around him. That is putting the fandom of the player before fandom of the team.

There is no objective argument that can be made that Alex Smith is worthy of a new contract, therefore his fans are delusional.

This is the NFL, Alex Smith will be judged on the standards of the league and compared to his peers.

Case in point, if an inconsistent 1st rd QB like Rex Grossman can get cut from his team despite leading them to 13-3 record and Super Bowl appearance; while having 7 games with a 100 + QB rating, one of them a perfect 148, then Alex Smith will be get the axe for not making the playoffs and playing inconsistent.

That's a reality and fact based observation.

And my point is that you lowered the discussion on football down to a personal attack on a group of other posters. But you knew that, and avoided the point in your response.

FORGET THIS CLOWN SIGN A BETTER PROVEN VET & LETS DRAFT ANDREW LUCK!!!

no matter what it takes even if we have to give up a few picks to draft a QB lets just do it

I dont think he would, its time for him and the niners to go their separate ways.

Yes, especially if Jon Gruden is named head coach. Gruden really likes Smith's tools, and is just the type of guy who could raise his game to another level. I think Smith would be thrilled to have Gruden take over, especially on a team that has a fair amount of talent.

The Niners are not far from making a major playoff run. They simply need someone who knows what they are doing to take over.

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
I dont think Alex would start for another team in the NFL. Lets face it our #2 had more success in this league and is very much considered a bum in the league and his drafted team waited way to long to get rid of, ala Harrington... Sounds familiar dont it

And people can see that Smith is the better player.

Thing that you aren't mentioning when you mention Harrington is that Harrington was stuck behind one of the worst Lines in the NFL and the Lions didn't help the guy out. Hmmmmm, maybe OLines ARE important...



I think Smith may get a Line in front of him that can protect him at some point and don't be surprised if he ends up in Minnesota next year. Childress could do pretty well for Smith if the Redskins don't go after him. Shannahan only has McNabb for another season, so that would give him time to groom Smith to be their future.

It's funny how everyone craps all over Smith yet can admit that we did the guy no favors.

I hate it, but I would laugh my ass off if Smith came back with a huge chip on his shoulder and PWNED us every time he played against us.

It's serve a lot of us right. You all know who you are.

~Ceadder

Yet if the opposite were true, and Smith ends up working in a cubicle somewhere, you'll be the first to come to his defense and say that we ruined him by making him face all those OC's during his years here, and how the poor play of the oline shattered his confidence, and how he took too many hits to recover.

Pathetic....

I wouldn't mind himre-signing as our
#2 or #3 QB.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
FORGET THIS CLOWN SIGN A BETTER PROVEN VET & LETS DRAFT ANDREW LUCK!!!

no matter what it takes even if we have to give up a few picks to draft a QB lets just do it

2 questions for you:

1. Who do you feel would be better than Smith? AND how do you expect to get him? And don't say Michael Vick or Kevin Kolb because we have just seen how important it is for the Eagles, or any other team to have two good QBs.

2. What do you think the 49er record would have to be in order to draft Luck?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Regardless of what happens the rest of this season Alex Smith isn't getting re-signed. The team will have options to upgrade the QB position in the offseason and will get severely ridiculed in the media if it passes on those options in order to go into year 7 of the Alex Smith project.

This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense.

The offseason was spent surrounding Alex Smith with better talent; bringing back the same OC for consistency; and pumping up his confidence by singing him praises in the media about his new found swag and leadership abilities.

Despite that he has failed to lead the team. Most importantly he's failed himself in not playing well enough to secure a new contract with the team and to remain a starter in this league after this season.

When he goes I hope he takes the delusional cultists masking as Niner fans with him.

First of all, calling a sizeable percentage of Niner fans and members of this forum "delusional cultists" is offensive, unpleasant and inaccurate. Having a different opinion from you doesnt make others delusional. And claiming that such people are "masking as Niner fans" is an unpleasant and judgemental thing to say. As well as being completely wrong.

"This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense." This is total bull, a very arrogant claim without foundation.

To be charitable, I assume that you are either very young or trolling, or a PBM trying to cause trouble. Hopefully you will get warned for this post.

Regardless, there is clearly no point in discussing the team with you.

My point of contention with this thread is that it's based on the inference that Alex Smith would/should leave the team because he's been either mistreated or inadequetaly supported by the team.

It's part of a continued pattern of Alex Smith supporters who believe that his success as a player isn't based on his own abilities, but the ability of those around him. That is putting the fandom of the player before fandom of the team.

There is no objective argument that can be made that Alex Smith is worthy of a new contract, therefore his fans are delusional.

This is the NFL, Alex Smith will be judged on the standards of the league and compared to his peers.

Case in point, if an inconsistent 1st rd QB like Rex Grossman can get cut from his team despite leading them to 13-3 record and Super Bowl appearance; while having 7 games with a 100 + QB rating, one of them a perfect 148, then Alex Smith will be get the axe for not making the playoffs and playing inconsistent.

That's a reality and fact based observation.

And my point is that you lowered the discussion on football down to a personal attack on a group of other posters. But you knew that, and avoided the point in your response.

Yes I did make a personal attack. I loathe all Alex Smith supporters. He's a player who is mainly responsible for the teams return to relevance, to continue to support him is to disparage the legacy of great QBing this franchise has had.

You accuse me of being young to which I find ironic, for that means that you are old enough to have seen Montana play. Aren't you aware that Montana is considered the greatest and that was due to him coming through in clutch situations, making comebacks and making plays when his line couldn't hold up?

Alex Smith is a posuer and his supporters are morons.

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Regardless of what happens the rest of this season Alex Smith isn't getting re-signed. The team will have options to upgrade the QB position in the offseason and will get severely ridiculed in the media if it passes on those options in order to go into year 7 of the Alex Smith project.

This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense.

The offseason was spent surrounding Alex Smith with better talent; bringing back the same OC for consistency; and pumping up his confidence by singing him praises in the media about his new found swag and leadership abilities.

Despite that he has failed to lead the team. Most importantly he's failed himself in not playing well enough to secure a new contract with the team and to remain a starter in this league after this season.

When he goes I hope he takes the delusional cultists masking as Niner fans with him.

First of all, calling a sizeable percentage of Niner fans and members of this forum "delusional cultists" is offensive, unpleasant and inaccurate. Having a different opinion from you doesnt make others delusional. And claiming that such people are "masking as Niner fans" is an unpleasant and judgemental thing to say. As well as being completely wrong.

"This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense." This is total bull, a very arrogant claim without foundation.

To be charitable, I assume that you are either very young or trolling, or a PBM trying to cause trouble. Hopefully you will get warned for this post.

Regardless, there is clearly no point in discussing the team with you.

My point of contention with this thread is that it's based on the inference that Alex Smith would/should leave the team because he's been either mistreated or inadequetaly supported by the team.

It's part of a continued pattern of Alex Smith supporters who believe that his success as a player isn't based on his own abilities, but the ability of those around him. That is putting the fandom of the player before fandom of the team.

There is no objective argument that can be made that Alex Smith is worthy of a new contract, therefore his fans are delusional.

This is the NFL, Alex Smith will be judged on the standards of the league and compared to his peers.

Case in point, if an inconsistent 1st rd QB like Rex Grossman can get cut from his team despite leading them to 13-3 record and Super Bowl appearance; while having 7 games with a 100 + QB rating, one of them a perfect 148, then Alex Smith will be get the axe for not making the playoffs and playing inconsistent.

That's a reality and fact based observation.

And my point is that you lowered the discussion on football down to a personal attack on a group of other posters. But you knew that, and avoided the point in your response.

Yes I did make a personal attack. I loathe all Alex Smith supporters. He's a player who is mainly responsible for the teams return to relevance, to continue to support him is to disparage the legacy of great QBing this franchise has had.

You accuse me of being young to which I find ironic, for that means that you are old enough to have seen Montana play. Aren't you aware that Montana is considered the greatest and that was due to him coming through in clutch situations, making comebacks and making plays when his line couldn't hold up?

Alex Smith is a posuer and his supporters are morons.

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Regardless of what happens the rest of this season Alex Smith isn't getting re-signed. The team will have options to upgrade the QB position in the offseason and will get severely ridiculed in the media if it passes on those options in order to go into year 7 of the Alex Smith project.

This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense.

The offseason was spent surrounding Alex Smith with better talent; bringing back the same OC for consistency; and pumping up his confidence by singing him praises in the media about his new found swag and leadership abilities.

Despite that he has failed to lead the team. Most importantly he's failed himself in not playing well enough to secure a new contract with the team and to remain a starter in this league after this season.

When he goes I hope he takes the delusional cultists masking as Niner fans with him.

First of all, calling a sizeable percentage of Niner fans and members of this forum "delusional cultists" is offensive, unpleasant and inaccurate. Having a different opinion from you doesnt make others delusional. And claiming that such people are "masking as Niner fans" is an unpleasant and judgemental thing to say. As well as being completely wrong.

"This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense." This is total bull, a very arrogant claim without foundation.

To be charitable, I assume that you are either very young or trolling, or a PBM trying to cause trouble. Hopefully you will get warned for this post.

Regardless, there is clearly no point in discussing the team with you.

My point of contention with this thread is that it's based on the inference that Alex Smith would/should leave the team because he's been either mistreated or inadequetaly supported by the team.

It's part of a continued pattern of Alex Smith supporters who believe that his success as a player isn't based on his own abilities, but the ability of those around him. That is putting the fandom of the player before fandom of the team.

There is no objective argument that can be made that Alex Smith is worthy of a new contract, therefore his fans are delusional.

This is the NFL, Alex Smith will be judged on the standards of the league and compared to his peers.

Case in point, if an inconsistent 1st rd QB like Rex Grossman can get cut from his team despite leading them to 13-3 record and Super Bowl appearance; while having 7 games with a 100 + QB rating, one of them a perfect 148, then Alex Smith will be get the axe for not making the playoffs and playing inconsistent.

That's a reality and fact based observation.

And my point is that you lowered the discussion on football down to a personal attack on a group of other posters. But you knew that, and avoided the point in your response.

Yes I did make a personal attack. I loathe all Alex Smith supporters. He's a player who is mainly responsible for the teams return to relevance, to continue to support him is to disparage the legacy of great QBing this franchise has had.

You accuse me of being young to which I find ironic, for that means that you are old enough to have seen Montana play. Aren't you aware that Montana is considered the greatest and that was due to him coming through in clutch situations, making comebacks and making plays when his line couldn't hold up?

Alex Smith is a posuer and his supporters are morons.

Well said son !

Originally posted by bigmur49:
Let's live in my fanatasy world for a second and belive the Niners are going to string together a bunch of wins and squeak into the playoffs.

To do this you have to assume the D is great, the O-line gets better, Sing shuts up, and most importantly Alex Smith playes good to very good the rest of the year. Let's say he gets the turnovers under control, makes smart decisons, thwos for 225 yards a game and looks like a top 10-15 QB in this league. I assume the Niners offer a contract.

Would Smith even sign it at this point??


If he can prove to the rest of the NFL that he can do it, and he can get out of the mickey mouse operations and coaching that the Niners have become, don't you think he would go to greener pastures??

As much as we all complain about Smith ( I am a weary supporter), if he gets offers to go elsewhere what would keep him here?

His supportive coach? His great coaching atmosphere and innovative strategists? The great facilities? The fans that boo him for taking a drink from the wrong gatorade botttle? The media that has tossed him under the bus?

I am worried we might be seeing his last season no matter what. He either stinks and is not re-signed, or playes well and leaves to go somewhere better.

I hope we have the problem that we have to worry about if he would accept a contract from the 49ers! That would mean a lot of good things!!!

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by foamingatdamouth:
Regardless of what happens the rest of this season Alex Smith isn't getting re-signed. The team will have options to upgrade the QB position in the offseason and will get severely ridiculed in the media if it passes on those options in order to go into year 7 of the Alex Smith project.

This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense.

The offseason was spent surrounding Alex Smith with better talent; bringing back the same OC for consistency; and pumping up his confidence by singing him praises in the media about his new found swag and leadership abilities.

Despite that he has failed to lead the team. Most importantly he's failed himself in not playing well enough to secure a new contract with the team and to remain a starter in this league after this season.

When he goes I hope he takes the delusional cultists masking as Niner fans with him.

First of all, calling a sizeable percentage of Niner fans and members of this forum "delusional cultists" is offensive, unpleasant and inaccurate. Having a different opinion from you doesnt make others delusional. And claiming that such people are "masking as Niner fans" is an unpleasant and judgemental thing to say. As well as being completely wrong.

"This thread shows that some posters aren't really fans of the team, but fans of an underdog player who occupies the most important position on offense." This is total bull, a very arrogant claim without foundation.

To be charitable, I assume that you are either very young or trolling, or a PBM trying to cause trouble. Hopefully you will get warned for this post.

Regardless, there is clearly no point in discussing the team with you.

My point of contention with this thread is that it's based on the inference that Alex Smith would/should leave the team because he's been either mistreated or inadequetaly supported by the team.

It's part of a continued pattern of Alex Smith supporters who believe that his success as a player isn't based on his own abilities, but the ability of those around him. That is putting the fandom of the player before fandom of the team.

There is no objective argument that can be made that Alex Smith is worthy of a new contract, therefore his fans are delusional.

This is the NFL, Alex Smith will be judged on the standards of the league and compared to his peers.

Case in point, if an inconsistent 1st rd QB like Rex Grossman can get cut from his team despite leading them to 13-3 record and Super Bowl appearance; while having 7 games with a 100 + QB rating, one of them a perfect 148, then Alex Smith will be get the axe for not making the playoffs and playing inconsistent.

That's a reality and fact based observation.

And my point is that you lowered the discussion on football down to a personal attack on a group of other posters. But you knew that, and avoided the point in your response.

Yes I did make a personal attack. I loathe all Alex Smith supporters. He's a player who is mainly responsible for the teams return to relevance, to continue to support him is to disparage the legacy of great QBing this franchise has had.

You accuse me of being young to which I find ironic, for that means that you are old enough to have seen Montana play. Aren't you aware that Montana is considered the greatest and that was due to him coming through in clutch situations, making comebacks and making plays when his line couldn't hold up?

Alex Smith is a posuer and his supporters are morons.

I am not sure whether you mean this junk or whether you are just trying to wind people up. Your post doesn't actually make sense, but even if it did, I have no interest in talking to you.