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Kassim Osgood flees attack, leaves 19 year old girlfriend
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:15 PM
- chico49erfan
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Plus, I just heard this one NFL Live, Osgood got pistol whipped. And the girl was not his girlfriend.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM
- ads_2006
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Sign Him?
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM
- TheRambler
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Originally posted by TexasNiner:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5630137
So, 30 year old Kassim Osgood (Jags WR), jumps out of a second story window, while his 19 year old girlfriend exchanges gunfire with her 20 year old ex-boyfriend.
Way to man up Kassim, not only are you practically a pedophille, but you ditch your girl to play shoot 'em up with an armed assailant while you leap two stories to safety.
Hero of the week award to you Sir, nicely done.
I'm really happy you wrote that. On this board every time a 30 year old creepy dude bones an 18-20 year old, there are a hoard of posters calling them a pimp and baller for bagging a youngin'. Let's call a spade a spade, or more accurately... an almost pedophile an almost pedophile.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:19 PM
- TexasNiner
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Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
He: Has gun.
She: Has gun.
Kassim: Has nothing but an escape route.
Can you really blame him?
Obviously we don't know all the details, but if it were me, and there were a gun in the room, it wouldn't be a 19 year old girl exchanging fire with some ex. It would be me shooting some foot who broke into my room.
Maybe he didn't have a chance to get the gun or to prevent it, but yeah, in my opinion if he's going to put himself in that situation, he needs to help handle it.
Two basically children (kids literally not old enough to own handguns, at least in most states) are left to potentially just kill each other?? Yeah, there had to be a better option.
Again, we don't know yet if he came in blasting, or even if she fired first, or if it was civil and turned crazy. But one way or another, he was the freakin' adult in that situation and should have either found a way to prevent the guy from getting in at all and/or helped resolve the situation instead of fleeing. Even if that meant he had to take the guy out himself.
If he's man enough to hit it, he should be man enough to handle his business.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:24 PM
- chico49erfan
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Originally posted by TexasNiner:Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
He: Has gun.
She: Has gun.
Kassim: Has nothing but an escape route.
Can you really blame him?
Obviously we don't know all the details, but if it were me, and there were a gun in the room, it wouldn't be a 19 year old girl exchanging fire with some ex. It would be me shooting some foot who broke into my room.
Maybe he didn't have a chance to get the gun or to prevent it, but yeah, in my opinion if he's going to put himself in that situation, he needs to help handle it.
Two basically children (kids literally not old enough to own handguns, at least in most states) are left to potentially just kill each other?? Yeah, there had to be a better option.
Again, we don't know yet if he came in blasting, or even if she fired first, or if it was civil and turned crazy. But one way or another, he was the freakin' adult in that situation and should have either found a way to prevent the guy from getting in at all and/or helped resolve the situation instead of fleeing. Even if that meant he had to take the guy out himself.
If he's man enough to hit it, he should be man enough to handle his business.
The guy is being charged with assault with a deadly weapon, breaking and entering, and armed robbery. Pretty sure it wasn't civil. Two children? I mean, come on man you're splitting hairs. She seems like she had an apartment. She was out of her parents' house. And she's legally an adult any way you try to slice it.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:29 PM
- TheSixthRing
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Originally posted by TexasNiner:Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
He: Has gun.
She: Has gun.
Kassim: Has nothing but an escape route.
Can you really blame him?
Obviously we don't know all the details, but if it were me, and there were a gun in the room, it wouldn't be a 19 year old girl exchanging fire with some ex. It would be me shooting some foot who broke into my room.
Maybe he didn't have a chance to get the gun or to prevent it, but yeah, in my opinion if he's going to put himself in that situation, he needs to help handle it.
Two basically children (kids literally not old enough to own handguns, at least in most states) are left to potentially just kill each other?? Yeah, there had to be a better option.
Again, we don't know yet if he came in blasting, or even if she fired first, or if it was civil and turned crazy. But one way or another, he was the freakin' adult in that situation and should have either found a way to prevent the guy from getting in at all and/or helped resolve the situation instead of fleeing. Even if that meant he had to take the guy out himself.
If he's man enough to hit it, he should be man enough to handle his business.
And throw away your NFL career? Riiiiigggghhhtttt........
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:45 PM
- TexasNiner
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Originally posted by TheSixthRing:Originally posted by TexasNiner:Originally posted by TheSixthRing:
He: Has gun.
She: Has gun.
Kassim: Has nothing but an escape route.
Can you really blame him?
Obviously we don't know all the details, but if it were me, and there were a gun in the room, it wouldn't be a 19 year old girl exchanging fire with some ex. It would be me shooting some foot who broke into my room.
Maybe he didn't have a chance to get the gun or to prevent it, but yeah, in my opinion if he's going to put himself in that situation, he needs to help handle it.
Two basically children (kids literally not old enough to own handguns, at least in most states) are left to potentially just kill each other?? Yeah, there had to be a better option.
Again, we don't know yet if he came in blasting, or even if she fired first, or if it was civil and turned crazy. But one way or another, he was the freakin' adult in that situation and should have either found a way to prevent the guy from getting in at all and/or helped resolve the situation instead of fleeing. Even if that meant he had to take the guy out himself.
If he's man enough to hit it, he should be man enough to handle his business.
And throw away your NFL career? Riiiiigggghhhtttt........
If it was worth it when he decided to hit it, it was worth it when trouble came up. I hate crap like this. It's an okay decision to tap 19 year old ass when it's just all fun and game, but if trouble comes up, you can bail because you "have something to lose"? Should have thought of that first. Just like getting her knocked up, or having your wife/gf find out.
If you are going to do the crime.....
And in regards to she's an "adult", yes legally, but not really. Anyone out of college, or certainly over 30 should understand where I am coming from. Yes, technically she is old enough to do whatever, but given who she is and who he is, if he is going to go after girls that young, he needs to be the man if needed.
(Most) 19 year olds are still just kids in their decision making and their actions, they are not mature adults. If as a mature, professional adult, you want to date someone like that, and potentially (through their involvement in your world, or your involvement in theirs), deal with the consequences, then so be it. You are grown ass man.
But if you are going to "hit it and quit it" when the s**t hits the fan (which you know it will), you are not much of a man in my book. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. You can't go after 19 year olds as a 30 year old pro athlete and not expect drama.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM
- zillabeast
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Originally posted by ads_2006:
Sign Him?
I agree with this statement. I seriously doubt any of our current special teamers are spry enough to leap out of a second-story window unharmed.
Osgood for KR.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:55 PM
- chico49erfan
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I'm just out of college and I still view her as an adult. She seemed self-sustaining. Evidence: she lives in an apartment by herself. This, to me, is no longer a "child."
And you need to get over the whole "if he's man enough to hit it he shouldn't quit it." I get where you're coming from... but look at the situation:
1. It's not his girlfriend -- obviously some sort of fling, so there's not much emotional attachment.
2. The ex-boyfriend comes in with a gun and I do not have one.
3. Holy s**t the girlfriend has a gun and I still do not have one.
4. I get pistol-whipped by the boyfriend and then the shoot out begins between the ex couple.
5. I realize if he gets the edge on the g/f he is going to come after me and kill me 100%.
6. I have a future as an NFL wide receiver and obviously this girl has some skeletons in her closets. And being that it's a fling -- which I'm positive NFL players have A LOT -- it's not a big deal to me. Definitely not worth getting killed over.
7. I'm out.
8. I'm out.
9. I'm out.
And you need to get over the whole "if he's man enough to hit it he shouldn't quit it." I get where you're coming from... but look at the situation:
1. It's not his girlfriend -- obviously some sort of fling, so there's not much emotional attachment.
2. The ex-boyfriend comes in with a gun and I do not have one.
3. Holy s**t the girlfriend has a gun and I still do not have one.
4. I get pistol-whipped by the boyfriend and then the shoot out begins between the ex couple.
5. I realize if he gets the edge on the g/f he is going to come after me and kill me 100%.
6. I have a future as an NFL wide receiver and obviously this girl has some skeletons in her closets. And being that it's a fling -- which I'm positive NFL players have A LOT -- it's not a big deal to me. Definitely not worth getting killed over.
7. I'm out.
8. I'm out.
9. I'm out.
Sep 29, 2010 at 1:57 PM
- danimal
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I agree with 100% of the OP's past posts
Then I realized that this was not the matrix...so now I only have agreed with 99% of them
Then I realized his problem with a 30 yr old boning a 19 yr old, which I agree with..back up to 99.5%
Somebody has a gun and I don't.....I am OUT
Then I realized that this was not the matrix...so now I only have agreed with 99% of them
Then I realized his problem with a 30 yr old boning a 19 yr old, which I agree with..back up to 99.5%
Somebody has a gun and I don't.....I am OUT
Sep 29, 2010 at 2:00 PM
- TexasNiner84
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I don't care how many times she let him hit it. That type of p***y ain't worth getting killed over
Sep 29, 2010 at 2:04 PM
- TexasNiner
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Originally posted by chico49erfan:
I'm just out of college and I still view her as an adult. She seemed self-sustaining. Evidence: she lives in an apartment by herself. This, to me, is no longer a "child."
And you need to get over the whole "if he's man enough to hit it he shouldn't quit it." I get where you're coming from... but look at the situation:
1. It's not his girlfriend -- obviously some sort of fling, so there's not much emotional attachment.
2. The ex-boyfriend comes in with a gun and I do not have one.
3. Holy s**t the girlfriend has a gun and I still do not have one.
4. I get pistol-whipped by the boyfriend and then the shoot out begins between the ex couple.
5. I realize if he gets the edge on the g/f he is going to come after me and kill me 100%.
6. I have a future as an NFL wide receiver and obviously this girl has some skeletons in her closets. And being that it's a fling -- which I'm positive NFL players have A LOT -- it's not a big deal to me. Definitely not worth getting killed over.
7. I'm out.
8. I'm out.
9. I'm out.
Well, we have no idea how much of a fling vs. "girlfriend" it was, but I see your point, But I still hate this type of thing. He is a grown man is a specific situation, he either needs to handle his business, or prevent this from happening in the first place.
Take her to his place, or spend a few bucks and get a hotel. Be descrete and safe, don't put yourself in that situation if you are banging 19 year old psycho hoes with major baggage. But if not, leaving her to get shot was NOT the right move.
And obviously, even though guns were involved, no one got shot and it doesn't sound like there was a police stand off. So either the gunman just bolted himself, or cops showed up immediately and he surrendered. Either way, if the girl was able to survive so Kassim would have too. But he just split the scene without any regard for this 19 year old girl.
That just doesn't sit right with me.
Sep 29, 2010 at 2:09 PM
- crzy
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LMAO at anyone who's saying that Osgood should have stayed in that room to protect some ho.
Please believe that if someone was shooting at you internet tough guys that you would be s**tting on the floor and crying like a b***h.
Osgood did the smart thing in getting the f**k out of there alive.
Ain't no p***y good enough to die for.
Please believe that if someone was shooting at you internet tough guys that you would be s**tting on the floor and crying like a b***h.
Osgood did the smart thing in getting the f**k out of there alive.
Ain't no p***y good enough to die for.
Sep 29, 2010 at 2:09 PM
- HessianDud
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lol, this thread is hilarious.
Sep 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM
- chico49erfan
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I agree that it's a f**ked up situation. Completely. I'm not taking that away from you. And yes, he needs to keep his s**t on lock, but sometimes there are situations you can't plan for. I doubt while at the club he was like "oh by the way do you have a crazy ex that is a gun owner?"
And we don't know if he would have been safe. If the ex boyfriend is willing to attack his ex girlfriend, I feel his aim and more importantly -- his anger -- would be directed dangerously at Osgood. For all we know Osgood could be the catalyst of why the guy came over in a rage. I feel like in this situation, and the whole flight v. fight argument of human nature, flight was the right choice. He saved himself from not only a potentially angry gunman, but an obviously horrible choice of a girl to be f**king.
And we don't know if he would have been safe. If the ex boyfriend is willing to attack his ex girlfriend, I feel his aim and more importantly -- his anger -- would be directed dangerously at Osgood. For all we know Osgood could be the catalyst of why the guy came over in a rage. I feel like in this situation, and the whole flight v. fight argument of human nature, flight was the right choice. He saved himself from not only a potentially angry gunman, but an obviously horrible choice of a girl to be f**king.
[ Edited by chico49erfan on Sep 29, 2010 at 2:10 PM ]